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DemonicAngel

DemonicAngel

Another brick in the wall.
Jan 21, 2021
78
It ticks me off to know that if your dog is old and you can't care for him anymore he can legally be euthanized. Or even the lonely cats in shelters that no one will take home and love. If your pet is sick and needs a surgery you can't afford once again perfectly legal euthanasia. I am glad pets have this option but what about us? Why are animals given more rights than human beings?! It time to make a stand and demand the right to die!
 
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W’ren

W’ren

Worthless
Oct 28, 2020
557
I agree with you.
When we put our animal companions to sleep- we are told we have made a "selfless decision" and "the best choice" for our beloved pet.. and honestly that, i believe, is the truth!
Why then, are we not allowed the same peaceful ending?
I read that in my country, the mentally ill will have access to MAID in 2023.
That's great… but why are the powers that be making us wait another 2 years? Everyone else has access to it now. It feels unequal-
Then there's some countries that don't even have a Medically Assisted Dying law… so what recourse do those folks have?
2 more long years… i'm not waiting. I'm back on my original track and i'm good with that,,,
 
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Superdeterminist

Superdeterminist

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Apr 5, 2020
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If anything, humans are even more entitled to euthanasia than other animals because at least we can voice our consent to die, while the animals cannot. Still, I support animal euthanasia completely because often you can just see how much the animal is suffering and ending suffering is a very good thing.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,378
I mean part of that comes from how we value the actual lives of other species as being lesser than ours.

Clearly the solution is to shift society in a way that it will finally stop caring about other humans in general. On a personal level one can do their part to make it so that other people would actually want them dead or at least frustrate them so much that their life doesn't matter to anyone else.
 
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BlankUser

Mage
Apr 24, 2021
501
Because humans think animal's life is not as important or valuable. Hence not worth saving. Humans put themselves on pedestal as the most worthy and the most important creatures on this Earth. Thus we're not allowed to kill ourselves.
 
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KleinerWolf

KleinerWolf

Account Wipe.
Apr 30, 2020
2,700
pets yes,
animals not so much.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
42,585
Yes, I agree. The right to die with dignity is very important. We never asked to be alive in the first place and we were brought into this world for pure selfish reasons so it isn't like we are obligated to stay alive. Wanting to leave this world is certainly rational in the case of unending suffering. People shouldn't be reduced to doing methods that can go wrong in secrecy, its barbaric.
We need compassion and understanding in this society. Sadly people place too much emphasis on long lives instead of those of quality. Those who haven't suffered enough do not know how simply being conscious can be a prison. There is simply too much stigma against suicide. Many pets certainly have better lives than humans in general.
 
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WornOutLife

マット
Mar 22, 2020
7,163
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
It seems the system just wants to force us to live no matter what until we're sick old grey men/women.
 
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greyhound

greyhound

Arcanist
Oct 8, 2020
471
Yeah I was talking about this with my mom the other day. It's like we'll euthanize an animal at the drop of a hat if it's even remotely suffering. Like horses sprain their ankle or whatever and have to be like ' no, no, I'm ok, really, put the gun down!'
 
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SuicidallyCurious

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Dec 20, 2020
1,715
The average pet in a rich country takes up more money than some people receive in poor countries
 
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ithappens

ithappens

Live free or die
Aug 9, 2018
159
Your typical pet cannot work a job to produce meaningless crap for the almighty capitalist machine.
It is only through their owners, who pay for their care, that the upper classes of society can suckle out money and value like leeches.
Humans, on the other hand, whenever one of those dies there's a loss in profit, a loss of someone who could be making the meaningless crap, and then another human has to take their place. And of course the less humans there are as a whole, the more they have to be treated with value rather than being paid starvation wages (as seen with the bubonic plague that raged across Europe). The wealthy and powerful want there to be more humans so that they can make more money and devalue all those that exist beneath them. It's alllll about maintaining power, control, and slowly sucking the life out of every lower-class human like juice boxes.
 
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DemonicAngel

DemonicAngel

Another brick in the wall.
Jan 21, 2021
78
Your typical pet cannot work a job to produce meaningless crap for the almighty capitalist machine.
It is only through their owners, who pay for their care, that the upper classes of society can suckle out money and value like leeches.
Humans, on the other hand, whenever one of those dies there's a loss in profit, a loss of someone who could be making the meaningless crap, and then another human has to take their place. And of course the less humans there are as a whole, the more they have to be treated with value rather than being paid starvation wages (as seen with the bubonic plague that raged across Europe). The wealthy and powerful want there to be more humans so that they can make more money and devalue all those that exist beneath them. It's alllll about maintaining power, control, and slowly sucking the life out of every lower-class human like juice boxes.
Well then they should be lining up to say goodbye to me. I'm almost 33 and only worked 6 months out of my life. I've been on disability since I was 16 and since I didn't work enough to pay into it , it's all government money. Yet every cent I get is one they would have beeb able to keep if it wasn't so hard to die. Lol
 
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Fragile

Fragile

Broken
Jul 7, 2019
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Maybe I don't know the definition of the word dignity or something, but this is the last word I'll ever use to describe the horrific lives that most animals have to live. The meat industry is a good example, but it's far from the only one.

Besides, when talking about pets, it's not their choice to get euthanized, someone else makes that choice for them. Therefore, it's not the right of the animal to die with dignity, it's the right of the owner to make that decision.

That's why I don't like to equate our right to die with animal euthanasia. This is a decision that we make for ourselves.
 
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avoid_slow_death

avoid_slow_death

Ready to embrace the peaceful bliss of the void.
Feb 4, 2020
1,358
People are garbage. A virus with shoes. That said, I agree with you. Not only because "freedom of choice", but also because the human race needs to be culled by a lot.
 
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stygal

stygal

meow
Oct 29, 2020
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I find the whole pet care thing so bizarre. Don't get me wrong: I love their cuteness and companionship but it's like having a little prisoner in your home who is fully dependent on you and whose only purpose it is to make you happy. And after all they can not voice their consent to anything: how do you know your cat likes its food or blanket? Maybe it just eats it because there's nothing else and lies down because it has to rest. Even purring is a thing cats do to calm themselves - so they might not even like your company or state they're in. Most smaller animals suffer in silence and just stop eating when something's wrong - whatever it might be - and then we go ahead and euthanize them - eventhough we cant be entirely sure what's going on. Weird weird system.
Rant off.

Euthanasia is a good thing though and should definitely made available for every creature on earth.
 
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Buffy5120

Death is vital
Mar 19, 2020
614
Jack Kevorkian Fuck America and their greed. 45CCA257 A258 46B0 941E CF4E7DC9CA30
 
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UseItOrLoseIt

Visionary
Dec 4, 2020
2,215
Clearly the separation of church and state hasn't entirely happened yet. Christian values (every human life is sacred being the big one) are inextricably embedded in the western value system and law.
 
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ithappens

ithappens

Live free or die
Aug 9, 2018
159
Well then they should be lining up to say goodbye to me. I'm almost 33 and only worked 6 months out of my life. I've been on disability since I was 16 and since I didn't work enough to pay into it , it's all government money. Yet every cent I get is one they would have beeb able to keep if it wasn't so hard to die. Lol
Unfortunately even you have value to the system still. Sure the government is losing money, but every day you have to live you have to use that money to pay for your own needs and expenses. So some corporations and possibly local businesses get paid, which flows back to the government through taxes (or in the case of big corporations bribes to politicians). Animals don't handle money so the most money that gets funneled through them is through their owners, who may simply decide to stop spending that money if they were not allowed to get their animal euthanized when they want.

Also, although I do not know your specific situation, most people on disability of any sort do not get enough money from the gov. to survive, which means either family or charitable organizations have to step in to help, which means more money having to be spent by the family of disabled individuals (or charity, though there isn't enough charity to go around so a lot of people are just SOL on that).
I find the whole pet care thing so bizarre. Don't get me wrong: I love their cuteness and companionship but it's like having a little prisoner in your home who is fully dependent on you and whose only purpose it is to make you happy. And after all they can not voice their consent to anything: how do you know your cat likes its food or blanket? Maybe it just eats it because there's nothing else and lies down because it has to rest. Even purring is a thing cats do to calm themselves - so they might not even like your company or state they're in. Most smaller animals suffer in silence and just stop eating when something's wrong - whatever it might be - and then we go ahead and euthanize them - eventhough we cant be entirely sure what's going on. Weird weird system.
Rant off.

Euthanasia is a good thing though and should definitely made available for every creature on earth.
I've thought about this a lot lately. Is it even ethical to own pets?
I sincerely hope that the animals I have and care for truly are happy, but how would I really know for sure?
A lot of pet owners get a pet because they want something that will "love them unconditionally", but do animals really have that capability any more than humans do? A lot of the time it seems like what pet owners perceive as "unconditional love" is pure dependency. Their dog, for example, follows them around and showers them with "affection", but in the end doesn't he have to do that in order to continue being cared for? He may feel as the lowest ranked member of the family, with no ability to wander around and hunt on his own, that he HAS to show this display of "loyalty" and "affection" in order to have his needs met.
Likewise we most often choose to spay/neuter our pets, and we claim it is for their benefit so they don't have "unwanted litters" and to avoid more wild animals in the area, but this is entirely based off our own needs and wants. If our pets could speak I am almost certain that just like most humans, they would want a fair chance at having babies of their own and passing their genes down. We literally control who gets to continue their bloodline and who doesn't, not through natural selection and them having a chance at the freedom to struggle for survival and all that comes with it, but based on whether or not WE want to deal with their offspring.

At the end of the day there's a reason most people have to keep their pets locked up inside the house or behind some inescapable fence. It's because given the chance most animals would run away to go explore the world, would not have the skills it needs being domesticated, and would probably die; and even IF they don't die they probably won't be coming back home for anything more than the occasional visit, if at all. A lot of pet ownership seems to go hand-in-hand with humans needing to have control over something. Most people don't have all that much control over their own lives, but they CAN lock an animal up in a little cage, choose when to feed and water them, choose what their environment will be, their playtimes, what toys they have, etc, etc.

And don't even get me started on the exotic pets people get and don't care for properly, just because they want to have something "unique", even if that animal is by all rights a WILD animal with very specific needs that often aren't met and then they just suffer until they die.
 
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Lucifer'sRight

Lucifer'sRight

Experienced
Feb 4, 2020
256
that's not respect that's the belief that preserving human life is the most important of virtues, and that human life is above all creation and is valuable unconditionally.
we treat animals like shit, so logically had we valued them we'd have not allowed euthanasia them. it's a paradox of sorts, or irony, I don't know..
 
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NormaJeane

NormaJeane

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Mar 24, 2021
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It ticks me off to know that if your dog is old and you can't care for him anymore he can legally be euthanized. Or even the lonely cats in shelters that no one will take home and love. If your pet is sick and needs a surgery you can't afford once again perfectly legal euthanasia. I am glad pets have this option but what about us? Why are animals given more rights than human beings?! It time to make a stand and demand the right to die!
You are right, our pets should not be treated better than humans. The society and the politicians must learn that humans also are animals. I believe that this will change in a distant future.
 
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xLosthopex

xLosthopex

Tell my dogs I love them
May 29, 2020
1,133
Um no they're not... we unnecessarily exploit animals in every single way possible- for food, clothing, vivisection, entertainment, even the pet industry itself

The reason we can euthanize animals is because they have no legal rights- now obviously this can be used for good when a loving dog or cat 'owner' does this out of respect and love and in the best interest of that animal, but it also means we can kill animals for pretty much any reason humans want to
 
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Weary Soul

Weary Soul

Soon I will be free
Nov 13, 2019
1,155
I was just thinking about this the other day.

Pets, the most beautiful and supportive beings, IME, have more rights than humans do.

I remember a story from years ago where someone chained a dog to a tree and let 3 Pitbulls tear the poor dog apart. The outrage from humans on behalf of that poor dog took headlines for weeks on end. I remember at the time feeling so sorry for the poor dog (I think it was a Dalmatian), and yet also feeling outraged that this same level of outrage was not given to people who also suffer abuse at the hands of humans.

Maybe it is because people perceive animals as helpless However, so are children. Where is the level of outrage at child abuse?

So called "humanity" really baffles me sometimes.
 
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SuicidallyCurious

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Dec 20, 2020
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I was just thinking about this the other day.

Pets, the most beautiful and supportive beings, IME, have more rights than humans do.

I remember a story from years ago where someone chained a dog to a tree and let 3 Pitbulls tear the poor dog apart. The outrage from humans on behalf of that poor dog took headlines for weeks on end. I remember at the time feeling so sorry for the poor dog (I think it was a Dalmatian), and yet also feeling outraged that this same level of outrage was not given to people who also suffer abuse at the hands of humans.

Maybe it is because people perceive animals as helpless However, so are children. Where is the level of outrage at child abuse?

So called "humanity" really baffles me sometimes.
The AngloZioNazis did this to the palestinians . No repercussions
 
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Weary Soul

Weary Soul

Soon I will be free
Nov 13, 2019
1,155
The AngloZioNazis did this to the palestinians . No repercussions

Even having been abused in just about every way possible, I still have no words, except to say that I sometimes I find it impossible to wrap my head around this kind of cruelty.

:aw:
 
NormaJeane

NormaJeane

Member
Mar 24, 2021
648
It ticks me off to know that if your dog is old and you can't care for him anymore he can legally be euthanized. Or even the lonely cats in shelters that no one will take home and love. If your pet is sick and needs a surgery you can't afford once again perfectly legal euthanasia. I am glad pets have this option but what about us? Why are animals given more rights than human beings?! It time to make a stand and demand the right to die!
Yes, our pets are treated better than humans. That is the unjust world we live in now.
 
Versailles

Versailles

Enlightened
Oct 1, 2020
1,647
It ticks me off to know that if your dog is old and you can't care for him anymore he can legally be euthanized. Or even the lonely cats in shelters that no one will take home and love. If your pet is sick and needs a surgery you can't afford once again perfectly legal euthanasia. I am glad pets have this option but what about us? Why are animals given more rights than human beings?! It time to make a stand and demand the right to die!
These are the consequences of ingrained thoughts based on forgotten religious ideas, previously in the most dominant religions such as Catholicism, it was said that animals did not have a soul, therefore it was not an obligation to protect their lives, instead human life had an incalculable value that had to be protected at any cost, these thoughts evolved making people think as they do today
 
settheory

settheory

Bundle of perceptions
Jul 29, 2021
457
Animals in general, not so much. Trillions of them each year are forced to breed/be born, live up to a certain point and then die, no matter how much they would suffer. They are being "cared" for, but only in things that are relevant for humans, which often can imply inflicting even more suffering on them. Even pets are not entirely ensured against cruelty: who knows how many of them are being secretly tortured by their owners? We simply cannot always guarantee what happens with pets behind the walls of the homes.

Animals are not even actually guaranteed a right to die (like any other), pets or others, they are considered property and can only be ethanized with consent of the legal owner.
 
Makko

Makko

Iä!
Jan 17, 2021
2,430
Anilas are respectable because they're delicious. If humans turn out delicious I'll start respecting them too.
 
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Hurt

Paragon
Nov 13, 2020
905
It's ironic that we can decide on our pets lives but not on our lives.
 

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