
sadbadpsychogirl
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- May 29, 2020
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while i agree with you that villifying OP does not help his situation specifically the welfare of his cats, i would like to point out that its unfair to call some people in this thread hypocrites. yes we all come here looking for support. however there is a difference between putting an end to suffering by CTB and torturing an innocent animal. we need to draw a line in the sand at some point. how far should our compassion extend? should we forgive a member who shows remorse even though they raped a child? there must be limit to what SS can tolerate.this is suppose to be a safe and accepting place, away from a society that only looks down on us, while you treat some of the people that come here the exact same thing you are getting away from. whats disgusting is the hate and hypocrisy from some of the members here.
As a vegan and animal rights activist obviously I am disgusted by any form of animal use/abuse, exploitation etc. but my only hope here is that you commit to not doing something like that again. You said you feel deeply remorseful which is of course a good sign.
I also wonder how many on here attacking the OP are not vegan? And support various other forms of animal abuse, ie the animal agriculture industry, purchase products made from wool, leather etc., buy from brands that test on animals? Part of my work as an activist was to document and film what happens on farms and in slaughterhouses and the torture that goes on there is just as horrific, if not worse, than what the OP did, yet most of you probably eat animals.... (ight imma go run for cover)
Edit: OP please do not hit or spray the cats!! That's still abuse.
A bit off topic but have you ever looked into free spay and neuter programs? That's how I got my cats neutered. Maybe you can encourage your mom to take them there? They're usually near public animal bite centers and colleges that offer vet courses. It might help a bit?Spaying is expensive and the aftercare too, so that's outta the question.
while i agree with you that villifying OP does not help his situation specifically the welfare of his cats, i would like to point out that its unfair to call some people in this thread hypocrites. yes we all come here looking for support. however there is a difference between putting an end to suffering by CTB and torturing an innocent animal. we need to draw a line in the sand at some point. how far should our compassion extend? should we forgive a member who shows remorse even though they raped a child? there must be limit to what SS can tolerate.
also i ask, are they really seriously willing to change and never do it again?i speak in general not just here.
Ok, I understand. It's only suggestions.I'm not going to some pencil neck therapist just for some useless advice, that's super gay
I can barely walk let alone do sports, lots of back injuries
Do you think it's driven you to suicide?The short of it is that I severely tortured a cat some years ago. Only later did I regret what I did.
I cry a lot over it, I haven't cried in 13 years before this.
I just want redemption. A clear conscience and good health would mean the world to me now. Life is just unbearable otherwise.
Oh my Fuxking GOD! FUCK ALL OF THIS SHIT FOR REAL!! Oh My Fucking GOD! It is too much, but for some reason want to delve more deeeeeeeeeply!!Well as gross as it is I have to say you're far from unique or especially deranged. My nan's boyfriend cut a cat's tail off when he was little for fun. Not everyone grows up with the intense respect for animals that's generally common now (especially common online) and animals are sadly the target for a lot of people's stray emotions. There's not much to say on the matter, you know the mistake you've made, learn from it and don't do anything like this again.
I'd like to think so, but failing health and a messed up back is the only reasonDo you think it's driven you to suicide?
Why are you defending an animal abuser? From the other posts I've read this person is still hitting (abusing) the cats in the house. You're like those flying monkeys that narcissists are always surrounded by. That makes you just as bad as the offender (aiding and abetting.)i can not believe some people. its the past, they cant change that. what matters is that they want to change it now. instead of reminding them of what they already know why not help them progress into the future so they dont do it again. im sure everyone has regrets theyd rather not be hounded about so why do you have to do it to them. kindness doesnt cost anything and can change a lot. by being mean youre only continuing the cycle and i speak in general not just here. if you seriously want the world to be a better place, if you seriously want shit like this to stop, then encourage it to stop not for them to just want to kill themselves, thats nothing more then a good way to prove that we encourage death. making hurtful comments that could push someone over the edge is nothing more then that. you want a nice community, where you can be free to talk but ive noticed whenever someone comes in with something you dont agree with you become horrible people really quick, ditching everything that you yourself is looking for here. why should you have a safe place but not them? why do they have to put up with what you came here to escape when all they are trying to do the same thing? this is suppose to be a safe and accepting place, away from a society that only looks down on us, while you treat some of the people that come here the exact same thing you are getting away from. whats disgusting is the hate and hypocrisy from some of the members here.
(in case my last sentence didnt make it clear, im not talking about everyone so if this doesnt pertain to you then im not talking about you)
I was wondering the same, whether he was trolling.This is a trainwreck.
Not sure if this guy is a troll, his only other thread is about diabetes, and in that thread he said that he caused it by sunbathing?
That makes no sense, as sunbathing is not a cause of diabetes.
It is sort of an odd forum to troll about this subject matter if he is a troll.
But if this guy is for real, I have no words, and I know if I do start to get into a discussion about this, I am going to get very heated and while I would be defending animals, I would not want to say anything offensive and get banned.
1) thanks for proving my point with your comment.Why are you defending an animal abuser? From the other posts I've read this person is still hitting (abusing) the cats in the house. You're like those flying monkeys that narcissists are always surrounded by. That makes you just as bad as the offender (aiding and abetting.)
It sounds like it to me and your other health issues and coming from the mental issues from doing it. It's eating you up inside and making you sicker overtime.I'd like to think so, but failing health and a messed up back is the only reason
And I stand by what I said.1) thanks for proving my point with your comment.
2) do you even know what a narcissist is? Because it doesn't fit here.
3) I stand by what I said. Throwing hate at people doesn't fix anything and only makes problems worse and in some cases drives them to suicide.
so you dont care if you make people feel even more suicidal. good jobAnd I stand by what I said.
ok you have a point @Life And Death. thanks for calling this out. i actually thought about what you said as i was crafting my initial response. i felt very conflicted and just heartbroken for the innocent poor little baby kitten. @soap i really hope that you have the resources and motivation to get the help that you need. also, please PLEASE make sure to distance yourself from any living things that you could hurt so that you don't harm them in any way. good luck on your path to forgiveness and healing.I sometimes wonder how people would feel if it was them in a situation like this. If it was them asking to be forgiven or just trying to get it off their chest in a "safe" place only to be ridiculed and told how horrible they are as if they didn't already realize this. Only being made to feel worse then they already do.
If you really want to help someone then you won't point out that what they've done is wrong if they already recognize it as such, instead you'd offer ways to help so it doesn't happen again, not make them feel horrible and in some cases to the point of inhuman.
hitting is a no. spraying w a little spray bottle (like the cheap plastic ones you get for $3 at target) is ok and many vets say this is the most gentle yet effective way for training. i'd never hit my cat. even when she slaps the shit out of me i apologize to her! lol.If @soap had said he was remorseful for what they did to that poor cat and that was that, I'd have a small amount of sympathy for them, but to then go on to admit that they are still abusing the cats by spraying and hitting them, I'm appalled quite honestly.
love you grungie!It's argumentum ad hominem.
Ehhh man... it's a good thing you feel guilt at least. Sorry for harsh words but emotions took control over me. You mustn't do that! Cats are very sensitive to any form of abusement/strict discipline and you won't teach them anything this way. You're just teaching them that they should avoid you. There are other ways.
i have to disagree with this in some points, nobody expects you to act like op didnt do anything bad, nobody thinks op didnt do anything bad, not even himself. i love animals and its almost impossible for me to show op sympathy but that doesnt make it right for me to say something to make him feel worse. and also a traumatic events can lead to such things, they literally change the way your brain is wired, not defending op here, i mean in general. so i hope op gets help bc theres obviously something wrong if he did it out of bordedom. only positive thing i can say is that he recognized his mistakes and i hope he will seek out for help to maybe find the roots of this behavior and change somethingThis is a forum with free speech and I have the right to express what I think. I am not gonna pretend OP didn't do anything bad and comfort them. What they have done is unforgivable. Reckless animal cruelty is something awful regardless of circumstances like abnormal childhood, bullying etc. There's not really a way to help OP. They simply shouldn't have any animals in the house.
I don't care if animal abusers, rapists, pedophiles, serial killers etc. kill themselves. The world is better off without trash like them.so you dont care if you make people feel even more suicidal. good job
This is abuse in itself!! How can you even think that you kicking "8 of them outta the house" would make anyone feel better?? To free up space for a new litter... a new litter that will be reproducing even more new litters within months because you and your family aren't responsible enough to get them spayed and neutered!! This is a total fiasco! Those poor cats :((((No one wants a single one, and shelters here are a joke
I've kicked like 8 of them outta the house if that makes you feel better. Mostly to have enough space for the new litter.
None of them want to leave.
This is abuse in itself!! How can you even think that you kicking "8 of them outta the house" would make anyone feel better?? To free up space for a new litter... a new litter that will be reproducing even more new litters within months because you and your family aren't responsible enough to get them spayed and neutered!! This is a total fiasco! Those poor cats :((((
Exactly. Well said. It just makes me despair with people...This is abuse in itself!! How can you even think that you kicking "8 of them outta the house" would make anyone feel better?? To free up space for a new litter... a new litter that will be reproducing even more new litters within months because you and your family aren't responsible enough to get them spayed and neutered!! This is a total fiasco! Those poor cats :((((