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If you look closely, ideological Satanism has several advantages over Christianity.
For example, Satan in the satanism of LaVey is perceived as a symbol of worldview - a symbol of freedom, self-development, individualism and rebellion against injustice. While religions give us only limitations.
In many religions, the understanding of good and evil is very one-sided. Sinful holy fathers divide the world into black and white, while even before Christianity, people lived by conscience, and not by some stupid stereotypes.
For thousands of years, religion has destroyed science, art, and all possible freedoms. It was killing people, torturing them and giving false hopes. So why should we believe that hell exists? We are not some kind of obedient cattle who will blindly and thoughtlessly obey orders. If there is hell, then it is there...
 
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If hell is real, then there's surely some relief to be found in the certainty of eternal torment. What really scared me about it was the doubt eating at my time on this earth.
Anyways, it seems unlikely to me. The Abrahamic faiths have only been around for a recent part of human history and there were many enlightened people who formed their own religious beliefs beforehand. The whole concept of hell reeks of a manmade control mechanism.
 
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I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness. I was taught to believe that when you die that's it. Now I believe I currently am living in hell and anything is better then this and I also believe in reincarnation

Religion is man made to control, it went down well with the crusades to die in battle for something they believed in I believe we are in bloody HELL and what ever comes afterwards is paradise if not nothing,. Rebirth is the way, I hope I have a few hundred years to recover from this shit life.

 
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Religion is man made to control, it went down well with the crusades to die in battle for something they believed in I believe we are in bloody HELL and what ever comes afterwards is paradise if not nothing,. Rebirth is the way, I hope I have a few hundred years to recover from this shit life.


I know some won't believe this but I've been brought back several times. I have lived in horrible eras and this is the first time I end it in my terms because of living in a hell
 
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I know some won't believe this but I've been brought back several times. I have lived in horrible eras and this is the first time I end it in my terms because of living in a hell

Hell on earth
 
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If you look closely, ideological Satanism has several advantages over Christianity.
For example, Satan in the satanism of LaVey is perceived as a symbol of worldview - a symbol of freedom, self-development, individualism and rebellion against injustice. While religions give us only limitations.
In many religions, the understanding of good and evil is very one-sided. Sinful holy fathers divide the world into black and white, while even before Christianity, people lived by conscience, and not by some stupid stereotypes.
For thousands of years, religion has destroyed science, art, and all possible freedoms. It was killing people, torturing them and giving false hopes. So why should we believe that hell exists? We are not some kind of obedient cattle who will blindly and thoughtlessly obey orders. If there is hell, then it is there...

I'm glad you are here. Thank you for bringing rationality.
 
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Jumper Geo

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I'm glad you are here.

So am I, lol
I'm glad you are here. Thank you for bringing rationality.

When you think about last rites when your dying or have come out of confession and just said 10 hail Mary's and our fathers do you really want any of these scumbags near you https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nuns+nd+priests+pediphiles I must admit no one would touch us because he was a violent bastard we new it and everyone else new it so we just got tortured by him shame he robbed us by dying at the age of 40 years old I would have tortured him for the rest of his life, lol
 
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Guys....I appreciate all your thoughts and worries....but there is NOTHING once you die, no hell, no heaven...and that's the great beauty of it ! Total peaceful nothingness....what could be more beautiful? Stop worrying !
 
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I was partially brought by Jehovah's Witnesses and they fucked me up every since i was able to understand their babble. Always speaking about Armageddons and Great Tribulations and how we need to "stick with Lord Jehovah's organization in order to survive the trying times ahead".
I became terrified and still am today (specially now with this virus, they are all like "well, we warned ya'll").
In a way that religion fucked my life by early adding another source of anxiety and angts to an already (apparently) fucked up personality.
I often find myself thinking on how my life would have been different had i never heard the name of this "Jehovah God" or had i been born in a mentally healthy and more cultured family rather than on a bunch of country peasants that barely did know how to read and probably couldn't place their own country on a map, but because they knew about "bible's prophecies" and "God's true name" think that places them above other people.
This religion is also an inherited disease. It starts at some point in a family, normally by someone who suffered a major loss or faced a serious adversity in life and joins in to seek confortable lies and pats on the back, and is then imposed to their sons and grandsons and so on.
Fortunately for me, my mother started distancing from it when she started working and married my father and after divorced she stopped going there.
My other half of the family are catholics and also had influence on me not being taken to that miserable cult. In fact, both halves of my family fought a type of "cold war" about which religion i should have been imposed. The mother's side wanted me to start a bible study and going to the JW meetings as soon as possible, while the paternal side of the family wanted me to be baptized in a catholic church by a priest, as it is costum in where i live, shortly after being born and they also wanted me to have "catholic classes" ( i don't know how you refer to this in english as this is mainly a latin country tradition, but basically, when kids go to school there is the possibility, should the parents allow it, of them receiving "spiritual guiding" by a priest in the local church (what an amazing idea, don't you agree?) with the same classmates from school and after a year or so they have a celebration- it's basically a way that was found of preserving catholicism as the prevalent religion in the country, by associating it with the mandatory school ingression, even though people can refuse it and despite our constitution implementing a secularism principle on the republic.
Long story short, i didn't do bible studies but i was regularly/ocasionally taken to JW's meetings by my naternal greatgrandmother and grandmother, and i wasn't baptized nor did i receive catholic guidance while in school. The sad part was that my grandmothers, who had nothing better to do, and thanks to their small and shrewd mentalities, pitched me agaisn't one another by poisoning my mind with acusations against each other's religions and made me like a courier pigeon: when i went from my maternal grandmother's house to my paternal grandmother's house i carried a serious amount of venom and biased, hateful opinions that my great grandmother would make sure i learned in order to spit at my paternal grandmother. LOOK HOW GOOD AND PEACEFULL THESE PEOPLE ARE! I wonder if Jesus also did things like this?
At least the JW's don't believe in Hell.
I was always told that once we die we just stop feeling and we "return to the ground"... But i still wonder about it, after all what makes the JW's teology superior to the other's? The fact that they use the supposed God's true name? What if they forged the scriptures and introduced that name there?
 
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I know some won't believe this but I've been brought back several times. I have lived in horrible eras and this is the first time I end it in my terms because of living in a hell
Can you tell me more. You can PM me if that's easier, I'd like to hear about it
 
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HadEnough1974

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Tell:

Maybe you could say I'm agnostic.

That said, I live in America, which is essentially a culture based on C*******n roots where many people are still C******n. It's essentially a C*******n country, though not explicitly by law. The same way English is not technically the official language, but poll a group of Americans about that and get back to me, ya know?
My region is particularly religious, though many people here are quite modest about their faith in public. But the influence of the religion is of course so strong here that even non-religious people often take on its language and attitudes in order to assimilate.

My upbringing was religious.

One of my earliest memories of being uncomfortable with religion was Bible Study at various evangelical churches, where we'd learn fun little stories about the A********e and H**l. Demons coming up slaughter us with swords at the end of the world, if we were not saved. Multi-appendage angel and demon creatures playing world-ending trumpets and killing all non-C*******n people in a variety of creative ways. All that jazz.

Well, that shit is permanently singed into my mind, even though my personal, conscious beliefs and logic have changed so much since then.
And I just can't escape reminders of the hegemony of Christian thought in my country anywhere I go. It's always leaking back into my subconscious by osmosis. That's the point of a religious system spreading all around the world, so that it is psychologically inescapable because it's symbology has seeped in everywhere.

Ask:

Specifically to non- believers (though anyone is of course free to share their thoughts), I just want to ask if anyone else is experiencing something similar.
Even though you know your beliefs have changed, experiencing dissonance and a lingering voice influenced by past indoctrination, being constantly reactivated by current events and everyday interactions with the world.

If I can just purge myself of someone else's fear of someone else's H**l once and for all, this whole process of finally liberating myself will be much easier.

Methods? Beliefs?

I appreciate all feedback.

Ok, so just watch this video... my thoughts exactly!!!

 
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In somehow we fear the after death whatever it would be
 
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Ok, so just watch this video... my thoughts exactly!!!



The trouble with this video is that I think after we have spent a lifetime in hell on Earth, we will see paradise but at the end who the fuck know, lol it doesn't matter we are gone, thank goodness.
 
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All religion were made by humans, created by humans, and only applies to humans. The deceased humans/person doesn't even practice religious beliefs in the afterlife realm... Religions are "FAKE NEWS!" (quoted from PotUS)
 
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Well it's pretty hard to sway me as I've had an astral projection OBE myself.
I also did it. But I don't what know exactly the place we will go. Probably we will to go a place with the same vibration that we have. That's why I recommend to ctb while being happy.
 
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I think that is a great Summary on death and religions
 
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In my religion there is no hell. Hell is here. If u die u will be born again here based on your karma. If u are worthy u will be put to rest in infinite peace.
 
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I was raised in a Christian household then I left the faith last year. (Feels like more than a year since I've left...........). I'm now an agnostic.

So which hell do I go to? I don't freaking know, but I just hope that I would disappear into the void after I die
 
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Life is a terminal sexually transmitted disease.
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Hell is a state of mind. It is unfortunate that when young minds come into this world they are indoctrinated with narrow minded, dogmatic beliefs associated with religions. Wouldn't it be all too interesting to experience this world without the fear based, mind control aspects tainting our formative minds.

Ethics and guilt seem to play an all too important role in the concept of a punitive world. This world has shaped our minds to believe in these things in order to control us more easily.

If you have any experience with psychedelics then you might be able to understand the mind from a different perspective, which may help with these concepts. There is of course no literal hell. Hell is established by a limited frame of mind that suggests we are one in the same. Don't do bad things, for the betterment of the whole and you won't be punished by yourself. Safe to say that if a hellish experience is what is needed than that is what you will get. The innate forces of nature know what is best for you and the whole. Try not to get hung up on punishing yourself, learn and move on.
 
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Tell:

Maybe you could say I'm agnostic.

That said, I live in America, which is essentially a culture based on C*******n roots where many people are still C******n. It's essentially a C*******n country, though not explicitly by law. The same way English is not technically the official language, but poll a group of Americans about that and get back to me, ya know?
My region is particularly religious, though many people here are quite modest about their faith in public. But the influence of the religion is of course so strong here that even non-religious people often take on its language and attitudes in order to assimilate.

My upbringing was religious.

One of my earliest memories of being uncomfortable with religion was Bible Study at various evangelical churches, where we'd learn fun little stories about the A********e and H**l. Demons coming up slaughter us with swords at the end of the world, if we were not saved. Multi-appendage angel and demon creatures playing world-ending trumpets and killing all non-C*******n people in a variety of creative ways. All that jazz.

Well, that shit is permanently singed into my mind, even though my personal, conscious beliefs and logic have changed so much since then.
And I just can't escape reminders of the hegemony of Christian thought in my country anywhere I go. It's always leaking back into my subconscious by osmosis. That's the point of a religious system spreading all around the world, so that it is psychologically inescapable because it's symbology has seeped in everywhere.

Ask:

Specifically to non- believers (though anyone is of course free to share their thoughts), I just want to ask if anyone else is experiencing something similar.
Even though you know your beliefs have changed, experiencing dissonance and a lingering voice influenced by past indoctrination, being constantly reactivated by current events and everyday interactions with the world.

If I can just purge myself of someone else's fear of someone else's H**l once and for all, this whole process of finally liberating myself will be much easier.

Methods? Beliefs?

I appreciate all feedback.
I really like your question. I am now agnostic, but i grew up Catholic. Then my older sister met a guy from Africa, and he introduced her to the Protestant section of x-tianity. My dad also fell under that spell, and myself for a time, because it was everywhere, but I just couldn't tolerate the christian-speak, religiousity and the constant preaching on what is sinful. Even going so far as to say rock music is of the devil!...which is stupid as hell...lol... It actually made me uncomfortable in the Evangelical Sectors during and after the services; I can recall throughout many of the women would sing, dance, and talk about Zues...I mean Jesus as if he were their husband, and even go as far as moving their hips and puckering their lips and talking such inuendo as if they were air-fucking their God! I mean, I don't care who anyone bangs, as I don't insert myself in others bedrooms, but if they gonna judge gays and skanks like me, they ought check themselves! Air fucking the Lord! That's Nasty to me, but do what thou wilt! Lol
Okay, about hell. I used to be so terrified of hell, that I would have vivid nightmares...I think the concept of modern-idea-of- hell was created by the Catholic Church in the dark ages to scare people away from suicide, because the system needs good, obedient slaves! To do all the labor! To build their cathedrals, to make people comply...Even though I know this, I still feel xtianity's psychological abuses, but I don't have any vivid dreams anymore since I left x-tianity. Now that is a true "blessin' from the L..." sugar! jk Anyways, I hope you can totally purge yourself. I haven't yet. But I mean, I still cringe when I hear x-tian-speak, and I cannot bring myself to go into any religious facility....I also was deployed to the middle east, and any of the Abrahamic religions ( Islam, Judaism, Christianity), turns my stomach....So well that's all I got for now ...
 
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The existence of hell is just like heaven... They don't exist. Once you die, you cease to exist. You'll just be that speck of dust that no one will see.
 
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@RayoSinSol This theologian makes a GREAT argument against "eternal torment and hell", based on what the Bible says. https://reknew.org/2008/01/the-case-for-annihilationism/

EDIT: I am not a Christian, but to find an argument from the religious perspective against hell can help to calm "psychological nerves" so to speak.
 
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@RayoSinSol This theologian makes a GREAT argument against "eternal torment and hell", based on what the Bible says. https://reknew.org/2008/01/the-case-for-annihilationism/

EDIT: I am not a Christian, but to find an argument from the religious perspective against hell can help to calm "psychological nerves" so to speak.
Very cool. Totally makes sense and should ease the fears of devoutly religious people. Thanks for posting.
 
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There are different versions of the Christian Hell, and some are more acceptable to me than others. The one advanced by Emanuel Swedenborg, an eighteenth century Swedish mystic, is particularly well-suited to me. From his book Heaven & Hell:

When, therefore, a spirit of his own accord and from his freedom drifts towards his hell and enters it, he is received at first in a friendly manner, which makes him believe that he has come among friends. But this continues for a few hours only. In the meanwhile he is explored in respect to his astuteness and consequent ability; and when this has been done they begin to infest him, and this by various methods, and with gradually greater severity and vehemence. This is accomplished by introducing him more interiorly and deeply into hell; for the more interior and deeper the hell the more malignant are the spirits. After these infestations they begin to treat him cruelly by punishments, and this goes on until he is reduced to the condition of a slave. [3] But rebellious movements are continually springing up there, since everyone wishes to be greatest, and burns with hatred against the others; and in consequence new uprisings occur, and thus one scene is changed into another, and those who are made slaves are delivered that they may assist some new devil to subjugate others; and again those who refuse to submit and render implicit obedience are tormented in various ways; and so on continually. Such torments are the torments of hell, which are called hell fire.


This is essentially the story of my life anyway, so I am particularly well-suited for it. But for Swedenborg - who relied on his own mystical notions and visitations from angelic hosts and the like - Hell is a place of torment only because its denizens make it so. Indeed, for Swedenborg it is theoretically possible for someone in Hell to be redeemed and enter Heaven, but nobody ever does this because nobody in Hell really wants to. "What you take with you is what you have", quite literally - and all I have are unfilled lusts and unsatiated carnal desires, so that is what I will take with me, and that will be my society in Hell if Swedenborg is right. I have no ability and relatively little astuteness owing to a lack of life experience, but I can be clever occasionally, so maybe some thoughtful devil will take me under his wing and let me work out my desires as a junior partner to him.

I have been a genuinely bad person in this life, which is why I am going to Hell if that cosmology holds good. But for some of you, Swedenborg says that suicide is not a mortal sin:

The reason no one is reformed in a state of mental illness is that mental illness deprives us of rationality and therefore of the freedom to act rationally. The mind is sick and not healthy, and while a healthy mind is rational, a sick one is not. The illnesses are things like depression, imagined or illusory guilt, various kinds of hallucinations, mental anguish brought on by misfortunes, and mental anxiety and pain brought on by physical disorders. These are sometimes thought of as temptations, but they are not. Real temptations focus on spiritual issues, and during them the mind is in possession of its skills. The states I am talking about focus on earthly issues, and during them the mind goes mad.


Indeed, suicide is permitted in some cases.
 
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There are different versions of the Christian Hell, and some are more acceptable to me than others. The one advanced by Emanuel Swedenborg, an eighteenth century Swedish mystic, is particularly well-suited to me. From his book Heaven & Hell:




This is essentially the story of my life anyway, so I am particularly well-suited for it. But for Swedenborg - who relied on his own mystical notions and visitations from angelic hosts and the like - Hell is a place of torment only because its denizens make it so. Indeed, for Swedenborg it is theoretically possible for someone in Hell to be redeemed and enter Heaven, but nobody ever does this because nobody in Hell really wants to. "What you take with you is what you have", quite literally - and all I have are unfilled lusts and unsatiated carnal desires, so that is what I will take with me, and that will be my society in Hell if Swedenborg is right. I have no ability and relatively little astuteness owing to a lack of life experience, but I can be clever occasionally, so maybe some thoughtful devil will take me under his wing and let me work out my desires as a junior partner to him.

I have been a genuinely bad person in this life, which is why I am going to Hell if that cosmology holds good. But for some of you, Swedenborg says that suicide is not a mortal sin:




Indeed, suicide is permitted in some cases.
I'd like to think so. I've been suicidal for a young age. Struck great fear in me when at a young age I heard suicides go to hell. Actually learned about religion through suicidal thoughts. Asked my mom what happened after people died, because secretly I thought I may want to. Think was about 3 maybe 4.
Tell:

Maybe you could say I'm agnostic.

That said, I live in America, which is essentially a culture based on C*******n roots where many people are still C******n. It's essentially a C*******n country, though not explicitly by law. The same way English is not technically the official language, but poll a group of Americans about that and get back to me, ya know?
My region is particularly religious, though many people here are quite modest about their faith in public. But the influence of the religion is of course so strong here that even non-religious people often take on its language and attitudes in order to assimilate.

My upbringing was religious.

One of my earliest memories of being uncomfortable with religion was Bible Study at various evangelical churches, where we'd learn fun little stories about the A********e and H**l. Demons coming up slaughter us with swords at the end of the world, if we were not saved. Multi-appendage angel and demon creatures playing world-ending trumpets and killing all non-C*******n people in a variety of creative ways. All that jazz.

Well, that shit is permanently singed into my mind, even though my personal, conscious beliefs and logic have changed so much since then.
And I just can't escape reminders of the hegemony of Christian thought in my country anywhere I go. It's always leaking back into my subconscious by osmosis. That's the point of a religious system spreading all around the world, so that it is psychologically inescapable because it's symbology has seeped in everywhere.

Ask:

Specifically to non- believers (though anyone is of course free to share their thoughts), I just want to ask if anyone else is experiencing something similar.
Even though you know your beliefs have changed, experiencing dissonance and a lingering voice influenced by past indoctrination, being constantly reactivated by current events and everyday interactions with the world.

If I can just purge myself of someone else's fear of someone else's H**l once and for all, this whole process of finally liberating myself will be much easier.

Methods? Beliefs?

I appreciate all feedback.
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Tell:

Maybe you could say I'm agnostic.

That said, I live in America, which is essentially a culture based on C*******n roots where many people are still C******n. It's essentially a C*******n country, though not explicitly by law. The same way English is not technically the official language, but poll a group of Americans about that and get back to me, ya know?
My region is particularly religious, though many people here are quite modest about their faith in public. But the influence of the religion is of course so strong here that even non-religious people often take on its language and attitudes in order to assimilate.

My upbringing was religious.

One of my earliest memories of being uncomfortable with religion was Bible Study at various evangelical churches, where we'd learn fun little stories about the A********e and H**l. Demons coming up slaughter us with swords at the end of the world, if we were not saved. Multi-appendage angel and demon creatures playing world-ending trumpets and killing all non-C*******n people in a variety of creative ways. All that jazz.

Well, that shit is permanently singed into my mind, even though my personal, conscious beliefs and logic have changed so much since then.
And I just can't escape reminders of the hegemony of Christian thought in my country anywhere I go. It's always leaking back into my subconscious by osmosis. That's the point of a religious system spreading all around the world, so that it is psychologically inescapable because it's symbology has seeped in everywhere.

Ask:

Specifically to non- believers (though anyone is of course free to share their thoughts), I just want to ask if anyone else is experiencing something similar.
Even though you know your beliefs have changed, experiencing dissonance and a lingering voice influenced by past indoctrination, being constantly reactivated by current events and everyday interactions with the world.

If I can just purge myself of someone else's fear of someone else's H**l once and for all, this whole process of finally liberating myself will be much easier.

Methods? Beliefs?

I appreciate all feedback.
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Tell:

Maybe you could say I'm agnostic.

That said, I live in America, which is essentially a culture based on C*******n roots where many people are still C******n. It's essentially a C*******n country, though not explicitly by law. The same way English is not technically the official language, but poll a group of Americans about that and get back to me, ya know?
My region is particularly religious, though many people here are quite modest about their faith in public. But the influence of the religion is of course so strong here that even non-religious people often take on its language and attitudes in order to assimilate.

My upbringing was religious.

One of my earliest memories of being uncomfortable with religion was Bible Study at various evangelical churches, where we'd learn fun little stories about the A********e and H**l. Demons coming up slaughter us with swords at the end of the world, if we were not saved. Multi-appendage angel and demon creatures playing world-ending trumpets and killing all non-C*******n people in a variety of creative ways. All that jazz.

Well, that shit is permanently singed into my mind, even though my personal, conscious beliefs and logic have changed so much since then.
And I just can't escape reminders of the hegemony of Christian thought in my country anywhere I go. It's always leaking back into my subconscious by osmosis. That's the point of a religious system spreading all around the world, so that it is psychologically inescapable because it's symbology has seeped in everywhere.

Ask:

Specifically to non- believers (though anyone is of course free to share their thoughts), I just want to ask if anyone else is experiencing something similar.
Even though you know your beliefs have changed, experiencing dissonance and a lingering voice influenced by past indoctrination, being constantly reactivated by current events and everyday interactions with the world.

If I can just purge myself of someone else's fear of someone else's H**l once and for all, this whole process of finally liberating myself will be much easier.

Methods? Beliefs?

I appreciate all feedback.
I'm a believer but less fear of hell. I believe in a more forgiving God now. I always kind of did, but was conflicted. Years ago though I took a large OD og Tylenol PM. I had sleep paralysis/ a demon attack me in my sleep. In the form of Satan. He burst through my door and choked me. I got sick all of the pills and woke up surrounded by them. I would get sleep paralysis at times and my current religious beliefs are that dreams are very connected to the spiritual realm. I believe real demons have attacked me through my fears or immoral transgressions. I also often dream of break ins. I believe that's from my fear of someone harming me. I think they play on that. It seems very real, and is scary.
If hell is real, then there's surely some relief to be found in the certainty of eternal torment. What really scared me about it was the doubt eating at my time on this earth.
Anyways, it seems unlikely to me. The Abrahamic faiths have only been around for a recent part of human history and there were many enlightened people who formed their own religious beliefs beforehand. The whole concept of hell reeks of a manmade control mechanism.
Fear of the unknown? I'm scared of that myself but eternal suffering would be scarier for me. I'm scared of the unknown largely from worst case scenarios. Eternal torture would qualify
 
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I highly reccomend the documentary "Hellbound?"

It discusses the idea of eternal damnation at length and basically concludes it's bullshit. Even if you believe the bible, the idea of hell was formed out of mistranslations and intentional scheming by those in power. Fear of Eternal damnation was an effective way to convert people.
 
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Apr 13, 2020
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I am pretty religious, of the Christian sort. I can't imagine the God that I worship, the God that is literally defined as love, sending people to hell for suicide. It just doesn't match the message about who He is.


That said, I do fear I got it wrong and the after life will be some form of hell. There is a Buddhist belief about a hungry ghost realm... That freaks me out. And the Christian idea that hell is the absence of God, and thus the absence of all that is good is scary. I have always suffered from pretty insane nightmares, and there have been versions of "hell" in them that were abysmal.


So yea, that would be one of my biggest fears around killing myself. Religious beliefs are actually considered a strong protective factor against suicide, which sucks when you desperately want to die.
 
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What if we are the hungry ghosts?
 
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