An atheist i was talking to told that he finds being reduced to ashes horrifying

[iwanttodie019]

Then i explaine to him:---
You will not be conscious during the process,so how is it horrifying?
Do you find it horrifying when the chair(or any inanimate matter)in your room burning?

 

[ZwartHartje]

Exactly. Personally I do believe in an afterlife (NOT in the religious way though), but as for those who are convinced that there's no afterlife, I've all too often heard about their fear of the "endless blackness and nothingness" after death. That's pretty inconsistent, because you'd need to continue to exist in order to experience that...
Either there is an afterlife or there's nonexistence, but nonexistence can't be experienced, so it's pointless to be scared of that.

 

[iwanttodie019]

Exactly. Personally I do believe in an afterlife (NOT in the religious way though), but as for those who are convinced that there's no afterlife, I've all too often heard about their fear of the "endless blackness and nothingness" after death. That's pretty inconsistent, because you'd need to continue to exist in order to experience that...
Either there is an afterlife or there's nonexistence, but nonexistence can't be experienced, so it's pointless to be scared of that.

He was telling being reduced to ashes as horrifying.'
If you were conscious during the process then yes it is horrifying.
but since you won't be conscious during the process,it is like finding a chair in your room burning horrifying.Completely irrational

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

Being a rotting corpse in the ground is no pleasant thought either.

 

[iwanttodie019]

Being a rotting corpse in the ground is no pleasant thought either.

You won't be you anymore when that happens
You will have been comletely anhiliated(assuming physicalism is true and death is the end)

Do you feel empathy for an inanimate object burning?or do you feel empathy when you you see a rotting fruit in the ground?
Anything is of moral significance only if it has the capacity to suffer or is conscious

 

[BoredomSeeker]

The rational argument is kind of irrelevant. I'm sure whoever you are speaking of knows that their concern is irrational. Doesn't make it any less of a real fear. Humans aren't purely rational.

 

[iwanttodie019]

The rational argument is kind of irrelevant. I'm sure whoever you are speaking of knows that their concern is irrational. Doesn't make it any less of a real fear. Humans aren't purely rational.

Yesthat's why i say fear of death is very irrational

 

[burninghill]

I don't find it horrifying, but I don't like the idea of being turned into ashes. I don't really like the idea of anything happening to my body, I kind of wish I could just die and rot right then and there. I'd rather be buried than turned into ashes though, I guess it doesn't matter when you're dead but I really hate the idea of being stripped of my identity and becoming some kind of object. I'd feel like an object if I was ashes.

You could argue you're an object the moment you die whether you're whole or burned, but this is just what I think.

 

[Forveleth]

I do not think about what will happen to my body after I am dead because I will no longer be here. I hope that I will be given a natural burial as I believe what I've taken from the earth should be given back to it.

 

[GT Darkarage]

Maybe just something related to esthetic. I don't really care if I'm burned to ashes or just rot on or underground.

A lot people died like that a lot of times. Imagine war soldiers, warriors, explorers, etc.

A lot of them never were found.

Even I will prefer to rot, in nature so my body serves as nutrients for the ambient.

"From the dust we come, to dust we return".

 

[Mgelanie]

Then i explaine to him:---
You will not be conscious during the process,so how is it horrifying?
Do you find it horrifying when the chair(or any inanimate matter)in your room burning?

I think people can't face the fact that they'll just wind up as rotting corpses

 

[sireb_b]

As an atheist I don't really care what happens to my body after my death. Thinking about it definetly isn't the most pleasant thought sure, but I'm not horrified eighter.
I'm an organ donor, so if anything happens to me they'll just take whatevers worth and then idk. Other than that, I think I'd like a more natural or "environmental friendly" way to be disposed of. So in general more than being horrified by it, I see death as an occasion to give back what I took.

 

[ZwartHartje]

I don't believe in materialism at all, I see death as "moving out". You wouldn't want your house torn down while you're living in it, but once you've moved out to never come back, to an entirely different country far away, would it still matter?
I agree on giving your body back to Nature, that's why I'd love Sky Burial - it's practiced only in Tibet, they feed the dead bodies to vultures. Some people find it horrifying apparently, as it's often referred to as "gruesome" and what-not. I don't really get that, because unless your body is in fact burned to ashes or in some other way entirely annihilated it WILL be eaten, either by big creatures or by very tiny ones, and personally I like beautiful big birds a lot more than maggots and worms...

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

You won't be you anymore when that happens
You will have been comletely anhiliated(assuming physicalism is true and death is the end)

Do you feel empathy for an inanimate object burning?or do you feel empathy when you you see a rotting fruit in the ground?
Anything is of moral significance only if it has the capacity to suffer or is conscious

It's disturbing to think about it when we are alive even though we will be dead when it happens.

As an atheist I don't really care what happens to my body after my death. Thinking about it definetly isn't the most pleasant thought sure, but I'm not horrified eighter.
I'm an organ donor, so if anything happens to me they'll just take whatevers worth and then idk. Other than that, I think I'd like a more natural or "environmental friendly" way to be disposed of. So in general more than being horrified by it, I see death as an occasion to give back what I took.

They have "green burials" in my state. You can also be made into compost or a coral reef.