Amitriptyline cocktail - does anyone know if this has worked for anyone?

[anna]

I was also wondering if with such a large amount of pills (amitriptyline + antiemetics + diazepam) will there be time to take them all before falling asleep? ...

 

[Oblivion]

I also tried it and I can asure it's impossible to drink. I wonder if taking the pills as they are is not a better method. I am waiting to see if people get the N they ordered, so I can order it. Amitriptyline is my second choice, but this time I would just take the pills as they are.

taking the pills as they are would cause them to clump in your stomach, it wouldn't work.

I was also wondering if with such a large amount of pills (amitriptyline + antiemetics + diazepam) will there be time to take them all before falling asleep? ...

they would be dissolved in water

 

[anna]

they would be dissolved in water

but you say it's impossible to drink

 

[Oblivion]

but you say it's impossible to drink

Yeh, i was talking about how you said if there's time to swallow them all, in theory they would have to be dissolved in water

 

[anna]

Yeh, i was talking about how you said if there's time to swallow them all, in theory they would have to be dissolved in water

then I guess it would not give time to take the whole amount of pills, if we put them in capsules

 

[Clem]

Thanks for the info
I have Primperan and Tagamet
Should I use the two or only with Primperan would it be enough?
What amount of Cimetidine and Primperan should take?
And finally, even if "only" is 12 hours, do you think it will be peaceful?

40mg meto... wait 45 minutes... take everything else including 2g cimetidine as per the wiki guide above.

Will it still be peaceful over 12 hours? Well that's why you take the benzo's to guarantee it is. If you take say 300mg Diazepam and 20mg Xanax you'll fall asleep quickly and stay asleep.

And yeah, since you can't drink this particular drug due o its horrible taste the only way to swallow it is by crushing and repackaging in gelatin capsules. You could take them whole but you risk clumping as someone mentioned above. Mix the filled capsules with yoghurt or melted icecream and they slide down the throat easy. You can swallow a few at a time that way.

 

[Pk95]

I stay with my parents. So , to be safe,.. while shifting those packs , any small sound will be suspicious. I just want to get everything ready.

 

[Breelia]

I used to take BZP in cigarette papers. I wonder if that could be used instead of capsules.

 

[salah]

Taking pills you may always vomit unvoluntarely most out, suffer so much and so long and if caught or panic with pain end up locked and tortured in psych ward (they treat people worse than animals, you loose all your freedom unlike in prison) with no time given to be freed. If you have addiction to even strong prescribed medicine for real bad pain they often don't give you your meds and you have to suffer that pain and withdrawal symptoms plus pain from attempt, but they wont let you die to it. If you deside to live after getting out even 20 years after those files can affect getting some job and if you get kids and get depressed you can easily loose them (you are seen suicidal forever if depressed) making your children suffer every day for the rest of their lives.
If deside to choose method with 50-50% or even 90-10% changes die-live then better have it in a way you can always say it was an accident.

 

[anna]

40mg meto... wait 45 minutes... take everything else including 2g cimetidine as per the wiki guide above.

Will it still be peaceful over 12 hours? Well that's why you take the benzo's to guarantee it is. If you take say 300mg Diazepam and 20mg Xanax you'll fall asleep quickly and stay asleep.

And yeah, since you can't drink this particular drug due o its horrible taste the only way to swallow it is by crushing and repackaging in gelatin capsules. You could take them whole but you risk clumping as someone mentioned above. Mix the filled capsules with yoghurt or melted icecream and they slide down the throat easy. You can swallow a few at a time that way.

Thank you
maybe the nitrite option is better

 

[Griffiths]

I don't get this about clumping. What could happen so the meds would not be digested?

 

[Clover]

Okay I'm really worried about this method now - even done exactly right there's so many things that could go wrong.
I might get the pills just in case but leave it as a back up/last resort.
Going to order the nitrogen and hope it comes faster than it says.

 

[Clem]

I don't get this about clumping. What could happen so the meds would not be digested?

Yes, they may form a bezoar and not pass through the system. Chances are this WON'T happen, I mean 99% of successful overdoses are just people taking the pills as they are but with this particular method you need to take like 140 50mg Amitriptyline tablets plus the benzo's. It's a lot of pills so using gelatin capsules not only eliminates the risk of clumping but also the amount of pills to take.

You can fit like 3 crushed Amitriptyline tablets in a '00' size capsule, and 5 or 6 benzos. If you use size '000' capsules (these are quite large) you can fit even more. Just makes things easier.

 

[Clem]

Okay I'm really worried about this method now - even done exactly right there's so many things that could go wrong.

Like what? Done right and left alone for 12 hours almost nothing can go wrong.

 

[WrongWayGoBack]

Yes, they may form a bezoar and not pass through the system. Chances are this WON'T happen, I mean 99% of successful overdoses are just people taking the pills as they are but with this particular method you need to take like 140 50mg Amitriptyline tablets plus the benzo's. It's a lot of pills so using gelatin capsules not only eliminates the risk of clumping but also the amount of pills to take.

You can fit like 3 crushed Amitriptyline tablets in a '00' size capsule, and 5 or 6 benzos. If you use size '000' capsules (these are quite large) you can fit even more. Just makes things easier.

This is good advice. Clem, I'd appreciate your thoughts.

I've already ordered 150 x 75mg Amitriptyline from an online supplier. No questions asked, it arrived in 10 days delivered from Asia. Ordering the diazepam and Midazolam was harder, I used darnet sources.

The gel caps seem to be the only way to go. Easily obtainable too.

Strangely, the hardest item to source was cimetadine. I've still not found it, so settles for another blocker quinidine. I've no idea if this will work.

My antiemetics are esomeprazole and domperdone SR caps and metoclopramide. I've no idea of the dosage of the former leading up to the day of ctb. The latter you recommend 40mg 45 minutes prior, is this correct?

I only want to do this once. I have no record of ideation and want to keep it that way.

Also something I would like to do but don't knownif it is possible (definitely off topic here)- I'd like to remove pharmaceutical evidence for pathology so that the coroner rules it an accident. So far the only ideas I have are sitting in an inflatable raft out to sea with a slow leak and letting crustaceans eat my corpse when it sinks, or going camping, wearing flamable synthetics and dousing myself in butane then setting myself alight with a heater on a timer, or thirdly going to Hawaii and lying in the path of oncoming (but distant) lava flows. Any thoughts on these?

 

[Clem]

Don't take this the wrong way but those 'making it look like an accident ideas' are all terrible and please don't attempt any.

Ld50 is 140mg/kg. So 14,000 mg. For 100 kg. Thats alot of pills.

Umm, no. It's much less than that. The lethal dose is potentially anything above 2 grams.

Medical journal...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5606484/

While survival has been reported after ingestion of 4.25 g amitriptyline, for which intravenous lipid emulsion (ILE) therapy was administered,1 we recently managed a patient who made a full recovery after a 4.8 g amitriptyline overdose.

We believe this to be one of the highest reported overdoses of amitriptyline that has been survived.

7 grams will almost certainly be fatal.

 

[WrongWayGoBack]

Don't take this the wrong way but those 'making it look like an accident ideas' are all terrible and please don't attempt any.


Umm, no. It's much less than that. The lethal dose is potentially anything above 2 grams.

Medical journal...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5606484/



7 grams will almost certainly be fatal.

Fair call. Seeing as it's against forum policy to make a recommendation, could you elaborate on why they're terrible?

 

[Clem]

Lying in the path of lava? Eaten by sea creatures? I'm honestly not sure if you're being serious by considering these as viable options.

FWIW, the thing about drug OD's is that unless there's a suicide note, or you have imported something like N, the coroner will probably record an open verdict or 'death by misadventure' or something like that. To record a suicide verdict they need to be 100% sure and this is difficult to conclude when an OD involves a common drug like opiates or tricyclic anti-depressants regardless of the number of pills ingested.

 

[WrongWayGoBack]

Lying in the path of lava? Eaten by sea creatures? I'm honestly not sure if you're being serious by considering these as viable options.

FWIW, the thing about drug OD's is that unless there's a suicide note, or you have imported something like N, the coroner will probably record an open verdict or 'death by misadventure' or something like that. To record a suicide verdict they need to be 100% sure and this is difficult to conclude when an OD involves a common drug like opiates or tricyclic anti-depressants regardless of the number of pills ingested.

Isn't amitriptyline in the standard toxicology practice? Testing for it is hardly new, and it has been the subject of a lot of research. The coronor could easily make a ruling based on levels alone in the absence of a prescription.

http://www.forensicsciencesimplified.org/tox/Toxicology.pdf

https://watermark.silverchair.com/2...DRZvpELZzaUDBgFwP-8HeQglATNWdVkjMoXX-Gka9sWqZ

https://academic.oup.com/jat/article-abstract/9/5/230/756810?redirectedFrom=fulltext

I won't be leaving a note and all evidence of the pills would be destroyed first bar those in my system. But I don't believe that the insurance company would let the coronor rule misadventurewhen these tests are now cheap and standard.

Regarding being eaten by sea creatures, yes absolutely. In the right region and temperature, crustaceans will strip a corpse in a matter of days. It's well known.

The lava thing might be far fetched, I'll give you that. Maybe I'm looking for some excitement.

 

[Clem]

Depends on the country maybe. In the UK they go out of their way to not record a suicide verdict. There are cases where someone has ingested N and the ruling was still determined to be an accidental death. Crazy I know.. Britain really is an insane place these days. Might be different elsewhere.

 

[WrongWayGoBack]

Depends on the country maybe. In the UK they go out of their way to not record a suicide verdict. There are cases where someone has ingested N and the ruling was still determined to be an accidental death. Crazy I know.. Britain really is an insane place these days. Might be different elsewhere.

It might be to keep the peace.

If they took CTB away from us perhaps there would be more people with less to lose, and society wouldn't like that.

 

[zi99]

[QUOTE = "Клевер, пост: 45670, участник: 1955»]
Да, сначала вы принимаете противорвотные средства, затем амитрипмлин, затем два вида бензо и медазалин, если у вас есть, затем алкоголь.
[/ QUOTE] why two types of benz and medalyzin? I read in the PPH that you need just 1type of benzo
I

-It's 100% peaceful
-Ignore the PPH advice about taking 10g or whatever. 7g plus Cimetidine is more than enough. Also ignore the PPH advice to crush the tablets and mix it with water. It is UNDRINKABLE. Foul beyond belief. You'll throw up regardless of any anti-emetic.
-Crush them and repackage in gelatin capsules. No foul taste. Easy
-Also it doesn't take 36 hours. The authors who claim it does are basing this on the fact that Amitriptyline builds up in the blood stream over time and have taken a guess. It takes less than 12 hours.

Have a read here... inquest reports going back to 2003. This is just the UK. When Amitriptyline toxity is mentioned as the cause of death (a few hundred times) the deceased almost always died within a few hours of ingestion.

http://antidepaware.co.uk/?s=inquests

It's a popular method. Doctors themselves use it...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cri...r-death-told-of-long-hospital-hours-1.1599161

Grab some Valium too and a long sleep awaits.

I didn't find citemedine in PPH 2017 edition, where did you get information about it?
[QUOTE = "Amina92, должность: 618239, участник: 15487»]
[QUOTE = "Клевер, пост: 45670, участник: 1955»]
Да, сначала вы принимаете противорвотные средства, затем два вида бензо и медазалин, если у вас есть, то алкоголь.
[/ QUOTE] почему два вида бенз и медализин? Я прочитал в PPH, что вам нужен только 1 тип бензо
я

Я не нашел citemedine в выпуске PPH 2017. Откуда вы узнали об этом?
[/ QUOTE] can you share the link where this recipe comes from?

 

[zi99]

Is there such a chance that this cocktail will cause vomiting and everything will come out

 

[asifkhanny12345]

This is good advice. Clem, I'd appreciate your thoughts.

I've already ordered 150 x 75mg Amitriptyline from an online supplier. No questions asked, it arrived in 10 days delivered from Asia. Ordering the diazepam and Midazolam was harder, I used darnet sources.

The gel caps seem to be the only way to go. Easily obtainable too.

Strangely, the hardest item to source was cimetadine. I've still not found it, so settles for another blocker quinidine. I've no idea if this will work.

My antiemetics are esomeprazole and domperdone SR caps and metoclopramide. I've no idea of the dosage of the former leading up to the day of ctb. The latter you recommend 40mg 45 minutes prior, is this correct?

I only want to do this once. I have no record of ideation and want to keep it that way.

Also something I would like to do but don't knownif it is possible (definitely off topic here)- I'd like to remove pharmaceutical evidence for pathology so that the coroner rules it an accident. So far the only ideas I have are sitting in an inflatable raft out to sea with a slow leak and letting crustaceans eat my corpse when it sinks, or going camping, wearing flamable synthetics and dousing myself in butane then setting myself alight with a heater on a timer, or thirdly going to Hawaii and lying in the path of oncoming (but distant) lava flows. Any thoughts on these?

U uk??