Amitriptiline cocktail

[Mm80]

Hello guys.
Im just wondering if anyone is considering/ Has faith in the above method. When i joined it was my preferred ctb method. Since then sn popularity has grown massively and understandably, (bought some myself as an option) just wondering peoples thoughts/ experiences. It sounds like it takes a long time, but is very peaceful if done right.
Thanks

 

[sangfroid]

I attempted it around 10 years ago but unfortunately I was discovered before it could have full effect and my memory of what happened is extremely sketchy. The main thing I would suggest is being very careful about making sure you aren't found, I don't know the exact length of time it takes and although it wasn't painful in any way I can remember, it fucked me up for a couple of months afterwards and felt I was in a benzo haze but without the anti-anxiety effects.

 

[Mm80]

I attempted it around 10 years ago but unfortunately I was discovered before it could have full effect and my memory of what happened is extremely sketchy. The main thing I would suggest is being very careful about making sure you aren't found, I don't know the exact length of time it takes and although it wasn't painful in any way I can remember, it fucked me up for a couple of months afterwards and felt I was in a benzo haze but without the anti-anxiety effects.

Thank you.
I get the idea with this method tgat a hotel room is recomended. Hope your better now. Would you mind if ask how many grams you took and how soon you we discovered etc and the hospiral treatment.
Thanks

 

[Quarky00]

It was my original method . And it's still in my ctb kit .

Death is much longer than SN , say 1h compared to 6-10h .

It takes bit more preparation- soaking lots of Ami pills and adding honey. The taste is reported as the most awful there is, and I can confirm that, hence honey/jam, makes it okay:)

It is violent in itself , so must take lots of benzo before to knock out. With benzo one wouldn't feel or experience.

I didn't attempt Ami ctb.

Still rather peacful and safe (at 8-9g).



* I still like it because unlike SN one would feel much less side effects -- basically just "benzo knock out" . SN is too quick lol

 

[Mm80]

It was my original method . And it's still in my ctb kit .

Death is much longer than SN , say 1h compared to 6-10h .

It takes bit more preparation- soaking lots of Ami pills and adding honey. The taste is reported as the most awful there is, and I can confirm that, hence honey/jam, makes it okay:)

It is violent in itself , so must take lots of benzo before to knock out. With benzo one wouldn't feel or experience.

I didn't attempt Ami ctb.

Still rather peacful and safe (at 8-9g).

Thanks quarky.
Ive heard that the taste is unbearable although some sites still say mix it all wth water. I have a pill crusher and capsule filling machine so would use that as it would only be a handful of capsules maybe 12. I believe at least 500mg of diazepam helps too. it is a long one, but if not painful might be worth considering. Still thing its a viable option just dont hear any succesful attemps reported on here
Thanks

 

[Quarky00]

Yeah I agree. It's very viable. Oh a machine is great! I wouldn't worry about lack of stories. Ami is old. Other than SN, N, and failed hangings -- not many methods are well documented.

I understand jam etc masks taste well. And unlike SN one can eat something light afterwards.

The only thing that makes it feel not painful is the benzo. Otherwise, as I understand things, it's quite horrible. Someone here described their daughter found (dead) aftet Ami -- room trashed, vomit everywhere, yikes.

 

[TJuk]

I'd considered this but couldnt find much information

 

[squirtsoda]

It's peaceful but death is potentially up to over 24 hours, in my case would have happened at like 29:05 but was found at 29 hours. But I am 250lbs 6'7" and took 5.5g non crushed. I should have taken 7g crushed, I certainly had enough. I didn't know better at the time. I would do it again, I live alone. I shouldn't have been found but I never accounted on so many people being concerned about me and tracing each other's steps if you will. No one had any idea anything like suicide was going on, just that I was missing. Also, if you don't leave a note stating what you did, that may assist you in dying as doctors generally don't know to look for that even if you are found. There is a specific blood test for amitriptyline level though.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

Just out of interest, if you have to knock yourself out with benzos for it to be peaceful, why couldn't you just do the same with SN which is safer in a lot of ways and acts a lot faster?

 

[Mm80]

Just out of interest, if you have to knock yourself out with benzos for it to be peaceful, why couldn't you just do the same with SN which is safer in a lot of ways and acts a lot faster?

Thats actually a good point which makes sense.my only guess would be the timings. I think to knock yourself out with benzos you would need a few, but you dont have to be out that long for sn to work, unlike with ami, up to 24hrs hence the 500 mg overdose. People may fear if they take a lot of benzos they may be knocked out before its time to take the drink. Or on the other hand if they took the drink then benzos, the sn would have taken its toll first anyway. But im not sure. Maybe quarky or another member could clear this one up.
Thanks.

It's peaceful but death is potentially up to over 24 hours, in my case would have happened at like 29:05 but was found at 29 hours. But I am 250lbs 6'7" and took 5.5g non crushed. I should have taken 7g crushed, I certainly had enough. I didn't know better at the time. I would do it again, I live alone. I shouldn't have been found but I never accounted on so many people being concerned about me and tracing each other's steps if you will. No one had any idea anything like suicide was going on, just that I was missing. Also, if you don't leave a note stating what you did, that may assist you in dying as doctors generally don't know to look for that even if you are found. There is a specific blood test for amitriptyline level though.

Thanks for the info. Wondering if you took benzos and what sort of state you were in when found?
Thanks

 

[squirtsoda]

I did, 10g lorazepam. In addition to 500mg diphenhydramine, 500mg quetiapine, maybe up to 50ng zolpidem, 500mL bourbon

 

[sangfroid]

Thank you.
I get the idea with this method tgat a hotel room is recomended. Hope your better now. Would you mind if ask how many grams you took and how soon you we discovered etc and the hospiral treatment.
Thanks

I can't remember off the top of my head but I used information from the peaceful pill handbook and managed to get midazolam and the correct amount of diazepam. Sorry to be unhelpful but all I know is it was a few hours afterwards and I'm pretty sure they use activated charcoal at the hospital if you have overdosed on pills. Don't make the mistake I did by letting anyone who could conceivably find out your contact information know when you are going to do it. I appreciate the good wishes but I'm feeling as though I'm running out of options myself, I'm going to use SN next time though because it's quicker.

 

[Mm80]

I can't remember off the top of my head but I used information from the peaceful pill handbook and managed to get midazolam and the correct amount of diazepam. Sorry to be unhelpful but all I know is it was a few hours afterwards and I'm pretty sure they use activated charcoal at the hospital if you have overdosed on pills. Don't make the mistake I did by letting anyone who could conceivably find out your contact information know when you are going to do it. I appreciate the good wishes but I'm feeling as though I'm running out of options myself, I'm going to use SN next time though because it's quicker.

Thank you. Was you discovered quickly then?

I'd considered this but couldnt find much information

Just looking for the link for it if anyone else has it that would be good

 

[No capacity]

Where do people get the meds though? Is it just that I am too nervous to go onto the deep web? The cocktail my physch has me on just would wouldn't work alone, only Z drugs and benzos

 

[sangfroid]

Thank you. Was you discovered quickly then?

As far as I can tell. My family doesn't want to talk about it and I have no memory from when the benzos kicked in until about 3 weeks later. I foolishly emailed someone I knew online to say goodbye and they managed to contact my parents.

Where do people get the meds though? Is it just that I am too nervous to go onto the deep web? The cocktail my physch has me on just would wouldn't work alone, only Z drugs and benzos

Amitryptaline isn't a controlled drug so it's somewhat easier to obtain through Indian pharmacies. You have to do some research though. Benzos are harder and more expensive to get from a "legitimate" pharmacy, but the darkweb isn't as scary as you might think. I order xanax from time to time because I cannot get through certain things without it but doctors here in the UK will never give you benzos unless you are elderly.

 

[Mm80]

Where do people get the meds though? Is it just that I am too nervous to go onto the deep web? The cocktail my physch has me on just would wouldn't work alone, only Z drugs and benzos

I'm in the UK and with my history I know they wouldn't prescribe a tca due to the risk in overdose. I got some from a Google search from abroad but it is nerve racking and takes hrs of research to give you the best chance of legitimacy. I think that's why sn has become popular as its mainly legal to buy (though soon it will be restricted imo) cheap, and the effects seem quick and only moderately painful

 

[No capacity]

As far as I can tell. My family doesn't want to talk about it and I have no memory from when the benzos kicked in until about 3 weeks later. I foolishly emailed someone I knew online to say goodbye and they managed to contact my parents.


Amitryptaline isn't a controlled drug so it's somewhat easier to obtain through Indian pharmacies. You have to do some research though. Benzos are harder and more expensive to get from a "legitimate" pharmacy, but the darkweb isn't as scary as you might think. I order xanax from time to time because I cannot get through certain things without it but doctors here in the UK will never give you benzos unless you are elderly.

Thank you. My doctor (private) does give me benzos. I currently have around 400mg zopiclone and 250mg mix of dizapram and Xanax with I dunno 3000mg queitiapine and some antidepressant with a name starting with M which I cant recall but I know from prior attempt of mixing this all, even with a huge bottle of gin and loads of paracetamol (which was apparently the most dangerous of the mix) that it doesn't work. I need to try get the other components of the mix. Benzos are no issue, its the other stuff.

 

[Mm80]

Thank you. My doctor (private) does give me benzos. I currently have around 400mg zopiclone and 250mg mix of dizapram and Xanax with I dunno 3000mg queitiapine and some antidepressant with a name starting with M which I cant recall but I know from prior attempt of mixing this all, even with a huge bottle of gin and loads of paracetamol (which was apparently the most dangerous of the mix) that it doesn't work. I need to try get the other components of the mix. Benzos are no issue, its the other stuff.

Pls don't take too much paracetamol as this is meant to be long and painful (I know it would be part of a cocktail)

 

[Quarky00]

It's peaceful but death is potentially up to over 24 hours, in my case would have happened at like 29:05 but was found at 29 hours. But I am 250lbs 6'7" and took 5.5g non crushed. I should have taken 7g crushed, I certainly had enough. I didn't know better at the time. I would do it again, I live alone. I shouldn't have been found but I never accounted on so many people being concerned about me and tracing each other's steps if you will. No one had any idea anything like suicide was going on, just that I was missing. Also, if you don't leave a note stating what you did, that may assist you in dying as doctors generally don't know to look for that even if you are found. There is a specific blood test for amitriptyline level though.

Currently PPH/Wiki[archive] recommend 8g if I recall? So you should have taken even 9g , I guess ?

It's not you , that "didn't know better", the dosage was raised over the years Wow, you were really on the .. last minutes ..

Very interesting, the part I marked in bold. It reminds recent story -- "Man Took SN and could have been saved but Emergency Crew Quarantine Hotel"

I guess you were in coma (or something similar) for few days , and took you awhile to go back to normal function ? People report migraines or dizziness even few months after recovery .

 

[squirtsoda]

I was in a coma for about 10 days, I lost 25% of my brain and have a lot of aftermath from the anoxic brain injury. Part of that could be the fact I coincidentally had a severe case of bilateral pneumonia without knowing. I was going by NIH data when I came up with 5.5g. I still had levels of amitriptyline in my blood high enough to cause a coma for 17 days, I was checked every 12 hours.

 

[Quarky00]

I was in a coma for about 10 days, I lost 25% of my brain and have a lot of aftermath from the anoxic brain injury. Part of that could be the fact I coincidentally had a severe case of bilateral pneumonia without knowing. I was going by NIH data when I came up with 5.5g. I still had levels of amitriptyline in my blood high enough to cause a coma for 17 days, I was checked every 12 hours.

Wow . Very bright to do that NIH calculation. And so painful to hear of the after effects :( It is quite amazing you survived .

 

[No capacity]

Pls don't take too much paracetamol as this is meant to be long and painful (I know it would be part of a cocktail)

Yeah I wont be trying that again, although miraculously I was out in two days and no liver damage despite being in ER for 4 hours and then on a ventilator. Apparently no permanent organ damage and amazingly this NHS has me back at work at day 3! I just sometimes read stories of "accidental" paracetamol overdoes and the desire then lingers again, but luck is not on my side in term of OD

 

[Quarky00]

if you have to knock yourself out with benzos for it to be peaceful, why couldn't you just do the same with SN which is safer in a lot of ways and acts a lot faster?

Exactly because it's faster , like I wrote:

basically just "benzo knock out" . SN is too quick lol

SN acts within 10-15 minutes. Say you take benzo at 10pm :

• Say knock out is around 10.45pm .
• By 10.30pm you'll be too out of it to take SN .
• If SN taken at 10.20pm -- you'd still experience SN effects -- before benzo knock out.

Too damn quick ;)

Benzo are taken with SN to make it more peaceful , but not as a knockout .

 

[Mm80]

Yeah I wont be trying that again, although miraculously I was out in two days and no liver damage despite being in ER for 4 hours and then on a ventilator. Apparently no permanent organ damage and amazingly this NHS has me back at work at day 3! I just sometimes read stories of "accidental" paracetamol overdoes and the desire then lingers again, but luck is not on my side in term of OD

Glad to hear it. I foolishly took 75 paracetomol about 20 years ago. Again due to lack of info and resources. Id say it was a cry for help, but i foolishly thought id go to sleep and sweet dreams. Thats why this forum is so good for support and scientific info.
Im not interested in taking up a hospital bed from someone who wants to live and get better. Its very black and white for me. If i want to ctb i will do everything i can to make it work while being considerate. If im not ready, i wont. I know tgat life isnt that simp,e for most btw.
Thanks

 

[No capacity]

Glad to hear it. I foolishly took 75 paracetomol about 20 years ago. Again due to lack of info and resources. Id say it was a cry for help, but i foolishly thought id go to sleep and sweet dreams. Thats why this forum is so good for support and scientific info.
Im not interested in taking up a hospital bed from someone who wants to live and get better. Its very black and white for me. If i want to ctb i will do everything i can to make it work while being considerate. If im not ready, i wont. I know tgat life isnt that simp,e for most btw.
Thanks

What is your chosen method?

 

[Mm80]

Exactly because it's faster , like I wrote:


SN acts within 10-15 minutes. Say you take benzo at 10pm :

• Say knock out is around 10.45pm .
• By 10.30pm you'll be too out of it to take SN .
• If SN taken at 10.20pm -- you'd still experience SN effects -- before benzo knock out.

Too damn quick ;)

Benzo are taken with SN to make it more peaceful , but not as a knockout .

Thank you for this quarky, i believe a coupke if benzos would help to relax somebody and not comatose them lol.do you have a link to the ami cocktail resource for the previous person who asked pls ?
Thanks

What is your chosen method?

Torn between ami cocktail and sn.i have 5.5gm of ami so need 2 or 3 gms more minumum. Have 50gms of sn.Have plenty of diazepam and have meto as an antienemic.
Im a bit of a wuss as i dont want to feel pain,or for anyone else to on here. I dont feel i deserve a painful passing as im not a bad person just had enough of life and people.
Practically speaking we are poisoning our bodies so pain is more tgan possible.
Sn looks very reliable if no life saving treatment happens. But there does appear to be some discomfort, but not much. The problem is somebody's 4 out of 10 pain estimate might be 8 out of 10 for you.
Id just slightly favour amitriptyline at the mo as although the proccess is a lot slower. I think if done right its quite reliable and peaceful. Plus id crush the pills and put tgem in capsules because ami with water is supposed to be unbearable

 

[TJuk]

I was in a and e one night due to selfharm and I was there for 12 hours, while I was there 6 different people came in with paracetamol overdoses

Yeah I wont be trying that again, although miraculously I was out in two days and no liver damage despite being in ER for 4 hours and then on a ventilator. Apparently no permanent organ damage and amazingly this NHS has me back at work at day 3! I just sometimes read stories of "accidental" paracetamol overdoes and the desire then lingers again, but luck is not on my side in term of OD

 

[squirtsoda]

And for the US people paracetamol=acetaminophen

 

[Mm80]

I was in a and e one night due to selfharm and I was there for 12 hours, while I was there 6 different people came in with paracetamol overdoses

And they are probably very common as you saw. Im no expert but i believe the vast majority of these attempts dont work. And when they do its organ failure and agony for days. To me paracetamol od is usually impulsive and often a cry for help.its sad if people are having to harm themselves to prove they need help.
I remember my psychiatrist asking what my plan was. I went into detail about the ami cocktail methods ingredients even cause of death and how if i felt the time was right id be using that method. He looked baffled.

 

[TJuk]

And they are probably very common as you saw. Im no expert but i believe the vast majority of these attempts dont work. And when they do its organ failure and agony for days. To me paracetamol od is usually impulsive and often a cry for help.its sad if people are having to harm themselves to prove they need help.
I remember my psychiatrist asking what my plan was. I went into detail about the ami cocktail methods ingredients even cause of death and how if i felt the time was right id be using that method. He looked baffled.

People look baffled when they find out I survived jumping from a bridge. In fact while I was an inpatient after it a student or junior Dr used my 'case' as a case study for her studies.
I asked for support 1 week before I did it but the people I saw said I didn't have a mental illness, funnily enough after jumping they decided I did. That was 9th Aug 2013 and I'm still under mental health team as I'm too high risk to discharge from services