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Epsilon0

Enlightened
Dec 28, 2019
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Well, this is both simpler and more difficult than it seems. According to most estimates, at least 90 % of all people who commit suicide suffer from a mental health condition. It can be major depressive disorder, bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, schizophrenia, PTSD, common depression, and, classified as a mental health condition nowadays, substance abuse. This figure also includes temporary depressions and psychoses. However, this doesn't mean that all these people commit suicide because they are mentally ill, as suicide is not a symptom of any mental illness. They commit suicide because their mental illnesses make life too difficult to live. As already discussed, it's a matter of perspective if someone is mentally ill or not. For instance, if a person loses their family, their livelihood, their home, and their health and then commits suicide, is that person really clinically depressed or simply reacting logically to unbearable hardships? In any case, to say that "there's almost always some form of mental illness behind suicide" is very questionable in many different ways.


Very good observation. Deteriorating physical health can push someone to ctb. I should know that, since this is pretty much my case.
@Epsilon0

I forgot about Fairclough! Foucault started discourse analysis, but others greatly improved it. Foucault sets off random wandering, others provide tools to experience the journey and increase the potential for arriving at a destination.

I admire both you and @Underscore for engaging with other points of view for self-reflection, and that you use them for potential self-empowerment and expanded awareness, not to self-negate or self-disempower.

My knee-jerk response was that I thought you'd experienced negation and disempowerment as a result of having your needs and self addressed in the domain of someone else's playground. What I value about Madness and Civilization is that it takes away much of the power and mythical validity of psychologically- and psychiatrically-based assertions and their playgrounds. Those playgrounds started out as prisons, and create labels to validate and reify the power structures; I perhaps inaccurately saw you as being snared by labels, prisons, and self-validating power structures and sent you the means I use to escape and stay free of their lures and influences.

But I can see that perhaps they also have served. My minefields are not always minefields to others, not because others are blind, but they are already shielded, or the mines aren't set to respond to their step.


I love the poetry of your last paragraph. I am by no means free from the glass prison of discourses. None of us are. That's why critical thinking and questioning are so important.
@GoodPersonEffed

I see that you changed your status to "I post a lot". I love spoonerisms, so to me it reads "I lost a pot" :-)
 
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Majin K.

Majin K.

too weak for this world
Jan 9, 2020
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Even if I'm "sick", I'm primarily doing this for the sake of my human dignity and because I've rationally concluded that life is inherently more negative than positive as we waste most of our time with things that bring us no joy.
 
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