Discussion Afterlife (and related) general discussion

[Miss clefable]

And I get good reasults even if they are rude

 

[mattwitt]

And I get good reasults even if they are rude

Be careful not to piss them off lol

 

[johnny]

I think it is nothing, just non existence. Like if you have ever been put under for a surgery, just like that.

 

[GiveMeNovacaine]

This is my favorite one:
You become all-powerful. A part of infinity. And if you want to keep playing then you can reinsert yourself at the point in your life where things went south. With a message. In the form of a dream or deja vu or whatever makes sense. And then maybe you can try again.

 

[iceman]

I think it is nothing, just non existence. Like if you have ever been put under for a surgery, just like that.

That's what I am hoping for, just nothingness. I know some people are comforted by the idea of an afterlife, but I'd just mess it up and you can't ctb in the afterlife! So nothingness would be perfect, I'm so tired, that is the ultimate sleep.

 

[15dec]

I like to think that I'll quite literally catch a bus that takes me to heaven, or a perfect place where I can feel happy

 

[Pineapplecrown]

I hope for that, yet at the same time I worry you remain conscious and trapped in your corpse until it completely rots away. Imagine cremation like that...

A horrifying thought

 

[venom.52]

I believe there is nothingness,but the idea of an afterlife is comforting. I've read many NDE stories but they don't appeal to me. But,i guess we can never find out until we cross over.

 

[Wastedlife]

I don't believe there is anything after this life. Once you are gone you won't turn back. Actually I'm pretty sure of that.

 

[Donewith_]

Did anyone go through the book 'Final gifts'?

 

[Fivelimit]

My views on afterlife-related matters is that... There might be something out there, yes, but there also might not. Before you call me out on the extremely boring view on afterlife stuff, let me explain:

I have experienced a bunch of weird stuff in life, and I am sure I am not the only one. It is easy to attribute the weird, unexplainable events to a supernatural cause, but the truth is the weird stuff I experienced only really happened when I was surrounded by religious people and visiting churches, temples, etc... In my, until that point, seemingly endless search for my true self. So, I would hear about this kind of stuff ad nauseum.

These days I don't really "see" or "hear" anything, nor I feel. It makes me wonder if the weird experiences I had weren't stuff from my, at the time, rather vivid imagination. I would listen to people saying that they saw or heard X or Y, and perhaps in an subconscious level, I wanted to be able to experience the same things... And so I did.

I don't really have any reasons to believe in afterlife, though what my heart truly desires would require dying first, so... Well, some sort of life after death would be required for my dreams to be realized. Yet, I can't really say I expect anything other than nothingness, but I might be biased — After all, the nature of my dreams and wishes is... Complicated, to say the least. I know that the odds, at least in theory, are against me, so the second best thing to me would be to just... Disappear. Hence the "I might be biased". It would do no good if afterlife is a thing, but my wishes are still impossible.

My numerous prayers were never answered. I never seen or felt or heard spirits or angels, nor have I felt the touch or the love of God. I never saw demons or whatever. I did, however, see people who were supposedly possessed by entities and I do have to admit they acted nothing like the actual persons being supposedly possessed, but... That is not really enough, now is it? Weird stuff, hard to explain, but far from being proof that there is more after one's death. It is only enough to make me consider the possibility, but I need more to accept it is as a fact.

One thing that I do find interesting is that some religious teachings have very similar teachings, yet I don't think it is a case of copy & pasting beliefs, since they originate from times where worldwide communication was pretty much nonexistent. Of course, the teachings might have changed through the centuries, so there is that, but it is interesting to me, nonetheless. That could mean there is something else out there, and that different people from different times interpret what comes after death in different ways. It could also just mean that humans are significantly less complex than what we are encouraged to believe, and that people having overly similar ideas is just a very common thing.

I could go on for hours and hours. It is a tiring subject for me, though, so I will stop here.

Agree

 

[Fivelimit]

Did anyone go through the book 'Final gifts'?

No. Is it good?

 

[Donewith_]

No. Is it good?

Still reading it.. as far as I've covered, I can say it has near death experiences, symbolic things done by people about to cross over, stuff. I feel its a good read.

 

[MsM3talGamer]

I think death is like a deep sleep. When you're asleep you don't miss being awake. So when you're dead you won't miss being alive and having a shit time.

 

[Sinbad]

The afterlife we all share is Nothingness. You experienced it before you were born.

 

[خوف]

I've always had a strong belief in an afterlife but now, I hope there is none because I know I'm going to Hell. Life is meaningless and vile and I've had enough, I can't bear another life. I just want to non-exist in the darkness with no thoughts, feelings and consciousness.

 

[Dor]

I honestly believe if I commit suicide the of chance higher degree of misery then I am experiencing now is very probable, If the next state is anything like the current, which isn't an improbable assumption, then chance of existing in misery is very likely.

But this is only my belief. I'm kind of hoping on the off chance this isn't the case.

 

[Sixfeetunder]

I'm an agnostic. There's no way to know for sure. But I think it would make more logical sense for there to be eternal oblivion.

 

[Broken]

As long as it's relief from this miserable existence I'm ok with death.

 

[Johnnythefox]

I was watching professor Brian Cox on TV the other night and he was discussing how life evolved on earth. From the simplest organism to where we are now.

I wondered at what stage in evolution did humans evolve a soul and have an afterlife bestowed upon them.

 

[creationisdeath]

I was watching professor Brian Cox on TV the other night and he was discussing how life evolved on earth. From the simplest organism to where we are now.

I wondered at what stage in evolution did humans evolve a soul and have an afterlife bestowed upon them.

The Penrose thing theorizes the brain is simply a receiver for something yet unexplored. I wonder what.

Not overly worried about some punishment by God. It would contradict everything. Besides, this life is punishment enough. I never hurt a soul and got this. I wonder what serial rapists get.

 

[EmotionlessWanderer]

If we can't get into a peaceful afterlife simply because of suicide then what's the point of having free will and thought that allow you to do such a thing? Why weren't we made to exist like robots if living through life is a requirement?

The suicide gives you eternal suffering arguement makes no sense.

I honestly believe that you would enter the afterlife regardless of how you die. Kind of like choosing between a credit card, ebt and cash. It doesn't matter. You payed with something and you get your food that's all that matters.

 

[pleasethistime]

Which way I fly is Hell;
myself am Hell.

 

[onegoodreason]

If we can't get into a peaceful afterlife simply because of suicide then what's the point of having free will and thought that allow you to do such a thing? Why weren't we made to exist like robots if living through life is a requirement?

The suicide gives you eternal suffering arguement makes no sense.

I honestly believe that you would enter the afterlife regardless of how you die. Kind of like choosing between a credit card, ebt and cash. It doesn't matter. You payed with something and you get your food that's all that matters.

I was actually just thinking about this last night. I agree with you, EmotionlessWanderer. I don't think it matters at all the "how" you transition, you go to the place you believe you're going to go to. If you believe you're a sinner and will go to hell for ctb'ing, then that's where you'll go. If you believe in a Heaven with angels and harps, that's where you'll go. Doesn't really matter how you get there, just that you get there.

Free will is God/dess's gift to us, for the purpose of experiencing everything we do in each of our lives for the sake of the Divine. So anything we do, good/bad/indifferent, is all good. Yep, even the evil stuff, sadly. Oh, and good/bad/indifferent/evil are all judgment calls by human beings, the Divine does not judge, the Divine is only Love. Now, that's not to say we don't pay in some way for the not quite so saintly things we do, we get to come back here in some other form with other choices for the next life that hopefully will help us with our "debts" (i.e. karma, although I'm beginning to wonder about karma, too). Heh, that's if we choose to come back here - I'm Not Ever Coming Back Here (for emphasis only). I'll do my payback out in the multiverses throughout all Eternity if I have to, but I'm not coming back as a human on this Earth ever again. Don't care what my spirit guides say, been there, done that, not doing it again, ever! For me, this is hell, and I haven't even had such a horrible life, but I've been in pain the whole time, just different levels of it throughout. Enough that I refuse to return for more of the same.

Ah but what I'm going to... now that's gonna be frelling amazing, fantastic and wonderful! If you've ever seen the movie, What Dreams May Come, with Robin Williams and Cuba Gooding, Jr., you'll get an idea of what my Heaven is like, not exact, but similar. I don't believe in their version of hell, though, this life is hell. I believe there is no time, and that we choose everything we experience there. Wanna fly, fly!! Wanna be in two places at once, well, there you are, and there you are over there! ;-) Wanna time travel, past, present or future? Catch my drift? No rules, no one telling you you're bad, or useless, or an idiot, or you can't. You can, anything! :-D

You are Loved, with the sweetest, warmest, fuzziest kind of Love, bathed in a golden light that heals all wounds. And the music, oh the music is just exquisite whatever genre you choose. Hey, don't forget there is one frelling amazing rock 'n roll band happening right about now!! I'm gonna join in on that one sometime, to be sure! Gonna have my own music to sing and play again, too, finally, and in my new gorgeous, young, healthy energy body, I'm gonna rock out with the best of 'em! Oh, look out, baby, one rocker chick makin' her way to y'all!! :-D

Some of you will say this is all just my fantasy, but that's where creation comes from, imagining things. Thoughts are real, they create, they manifest if the energy is so directed. I've given this a lot of thought, believe me! My afterlife is whatever I choose to make it, and the above is just part of what I'm making. If you believe there is nothing, just blackness/nothingness, then that's what you'll experience. There is such a thing as the Void as well. I'll probably be going there for a while, too, as I think I really need that time out, but I'll see once I get to that point. And we can always choose to leave it, too, at any time we want. I'm not certain as to exactly how it works, of course, but I think it's something like that.

So choose what you will, my friends. It's all good, truly it is! May you all be well and at Peace! :-)

 

[EmotionlessWanderer]

I was actually just thinking about this last night. I agree with you, EmotionlessWanderer. I don't think it matters at all the "how" you transition, you go to the place you believe you're going to go to. If you believe you're a sinner and will go to hell for ctb'ing, then that's where you'll go. If you believe in a Heaven with angels and harps, that's where you'll go. Doesn't really matter how you get there, just that you get there.

Free will is God/dess's gift to us, for the purpose of experiencing everything we do in each of our lives for the sake of the Divine. So anything we do, good/bad/indifferent, is all good. Yep, even the evil stuff, sadly. Oh, and good/bad/indifferent/evil are all judgment calls by human beings, the Divine does not judge, the Divine is only Love. Now, that's not to say we don't pay in some way for the not quite so saintly things we do, we get to come back here in some other form with other choices for the next life that hopefully will help us with our "debts" (i.e. karma, although I'm beginning to wonder about karma, too). Heh, that's if we choose to come back here - I'm Not Ever Coming Back Here (for emphasis only). I'll do my payback out in the multiverses throughout all Eternity if I have to, but I'm not coming back as a human on this Earth ever again. Don't care what my spirit guides say, been there, done that, not doing it again, ever! For me, this is hell, and I haven't even had such a horrible life, but I've been in pain the whole time, just different levels of it throughout. Enough that I refuse to return for more of the same.

Ah but what I'm going to... now that's gonna be frelling amazing, fantastic and wonderful! If you've ever seen the movie, What Dreams May Come, with Robin Williams and Cuba Gooding, Jr., you'll get an idea of what my Heaven is like, not exact, but similar. I don't believe in their version of hell, though, this life is hell. I believe there is no time, and that we choose everything we experience there. Wanna fly, fly!! Wanna be in two places at once, well, there you are, and there you are over there! ;-) Wanna time travel, past, present or future? Catch my drift? No rules, no one telling you you're bad, or useless, or an idiot, or you can't. You can, anything! :-D

You are Loved, with the sweetest, warmest, fuzziest kind of Love, bathed in a golden light that heals all wounds. And the music, oh the music is just exquisite whatever genre you choose. Hey, don't forget there is one frelling amazing rock 'n roll band happening right about now!! I'm gonna join in on that one sometime, to be sure! Gonna have my own music to sing and play again, too, finally, and in my new gorgeous, young, healthy energy body, I'm gonna rock out with the best of 'em! Oh, look out, baby, one rocker chick makin' her way to y'all!! :-D

Some of you will say this is all just my fantasy, but that's where creation comes from, imagining things. Thoughts are real, they create, they manifest if the energy is so directed. I've given this a lot of thought, believe me! My afterlife is whatever I choose to make it, and the above is just part of what I'm making. If you believe there is nothing, just blackness/nothingness, then that's what you'll experience. There is such a thing as the Void as well. I'll probably be going there for a while, too, as I think I really need that time out, but I'll see once I get to that point. And we can always choose to leave it, too, at any time we want. I'm not certain as to exactly how it works, of course, but I think it's something like that.

So choose what you will, my friends. It's all good, truly it is! May you all be well and at Peace! :-)

Thanks for your insight. I honestly appreciate it. Me CTBinig with your mindset will ease my fear of the afterlife. I seriously hope and believe it's a place where I can finally use my imagination and mind as an incredible power.

Even if it's nothing like that my journey out of this shithole will still be at peace.

 

[Shinji]

Hi. its all in my mind since years ago already. i was a roman catholic but now an atheist. in my opinion, after we die we go to our natural state, which is our thiking. our thinking that can make so much more that it can make our own world. after we die it will take us to somewhere we all will be happy. and that is which we are what we are back then. happy and joyful, full of sunshine in our eyes. we go to somewhere we deserve. because what i see is that this world(eath) is the hell. and that the christian's word about jesus coming back isnt entirely true, it is us that goes to him. but with my believe, we go to our happiest state, our own world made from our thinking and imagination. our ideal world. where we can find our peace. that is all and i do respect other's opinions which also brings so much meaning about what the afterlife is.

 

[onegoodreason]

Thanks for your insight. I honestly appreciate it. Me CTBinig with your mindset will ease my fear of the afterlife. I seriously hope and believe it's a place where I can finally use my imagination and mind as an incredible power.

Even if it's nothing like that my journey out of this shithole will still be at peace.

So glad I was able to help you in some way, my friend! :-) There really is nothing to fear in shedding the earth suit and letting your spirit slip free. If your mind and soul are at Peace, so will your ultimate journey be. Blessed Be. :-)

 

[Logic]

I will let Homer Simpson take this one.

 

[AhG]

I feel reincarnation is a thing or at least hope it is. I want another chance to go through life and fix certain things, or if I remembered them from my past life.

 

[ManWithNoName]

This is an excellent thread and great commentary from all who are contributing. It's this topic that is the crux to the question as to whether or not to carry out self deliverance, because what lies beyond is a highly relevant factor in the decision. It's a question that is impossible to answer, in the same predicament that Prince Hamlet found himself in the nunnery scene of William Shakespeare's play Hamlet. Act III, Scene I when asking the famous question "To be or not to be?". Hamlet concluded that people choose life because they fear the unknown, of what comes after death. This thread puts out a lot anecdotal ideas that hopefully, in the bigger picture makes it easier at the crossroads at which we find ourselves.