after mixing with water, how long is SN potent?

[dumdumdedum]

i heard it oxidizes...

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

I think you should drink it just right after mixing it with water because it gets to the bottom less than a minute.

 

[jgm63]

I'll make a complete guess and say 1 or 2 hours.

Not sure whether anyone would know, but while we are waiting for other replies, what is your current situation ? Why do you need to know ?

 

[dumdumdedum]

just wondering. stan's guide recommends making 3 glasses in case one throws up; was wondering if their optency reduces.

 

[Starrywaters]

Air exposure will degrade any chemicals over time as well as the fact you have mixed it with another substance (water) which changes its molecular structure (from power to liquid). It will be sold in powder more commonly likely because it's the most stable for longevity.

I would suggest if you plan to drink it to do so no more than a couple of hours later but preferably relatively soon after. I'm not sure how quickly it breaks down but break down can cause loss of potency which could increase your risk of a failed attempt or a slower one.

 

[Jean4]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/

just wondering. stan's guide recommends making 3 glasses in case one throws up; was wondering if their optency reduces.

Follow the guide. As Stan said... don't overthink. ;)

 

[jgm63]

I suppose you could note down the time you mixed them in case you go unconscious, wake up for some reason, then want to take some more, although I don't know how realistic that scenario is, but never say never I guess. I suppose you should also write a note such as "toxic, do not drink" (especially if you lived somewhere where water is not readily on tap and therefore viewed as more precious), to avoid the danger of someone else drinking it.

 

[BPD_LE]

It's unhelpful to 'guess' if you do not know. Mixing sodium nitrite with water makes it molecularly unstable. It begins to oxidise immediately. It should be prepared directly before drinking for optimal effects, or as close as you can.

 

[jgm63]

It's unhelpful to 'guess' if you do not know. Mixing sodium nitrite with water makes it molecularly unstable. It begins to oxidise immediately. It should be prepared directly before drinking for optimal effects, or as close as you can.

So if we go by Stan's guide, and make backup drinks, what would you suggest as a timeframe within which those drinks should be drunk ?
e.g. suppose you take the first drink, but end up throwing up after <x> minutes, what would you say the maximum <x> should be, to be able to use those backup drinks ?

 

[BPD_LE]

So if we go by Stan's guide, and make backup drinks, what would you suggest as a timeframe within which those drinks should be drunk ?
e.g. suppose you take the first drink, but end up throwing up after <x> minutes, what would you say the maximum <x> should be, to be able to use those backup drinks ?

Chemistry aside, if you throw up, I suggest you drink your back ups straight away, until you start to feel obvious effects. Which you will, if you keep drinking. Just don't mix your solutions hours in advance, wait until your ready to drink!

 

[dumdumdedum]

if i throw up, should i drink both backups right away? or should i drink only one backup? cos i might throw that up too, no?

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

It's likely that the backups will be good for hours but I wouldn't want to trust them after days. Not for as cheap and readily available it is.

if i throw up, should i drink both backups right away? or should i drink only one backup? cos i might throw that up too, no?

You're goal is to keep 25g down, so you drink enough to replace what you think you lost.

 

[BPD_LE]

The half life of sodium nitrite solution is approximately 40mins. If you're leaving it for hours then you're going to have to drink considerably more than 20-25gms!
Just follow Stan's guide and don't mix until you're ready to start!

 

[MaybeMaybeKnot]

The half life of sodium nitrite solution is approximately 40mins. If you're leaving it for hours then you're going to have to drink considerably more than 20-25gms!
Just follow Stan's guide and don't mix until you're ready to start!

I didn't realize it broke down that fast in water. I thought that was metabolism after ingesting. Thanks for the info.

 

[BPD_LE]

I didn't realize it broke down that fast in water. I thought that was metabolism after ingesting. Thanks for the info.

Remember your mixing it with H20 which messes up all the molecules and makes the NaNo2 unstable. And of course, there is oxygen in water.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

if i throw up, should i drink both backups right away? or should i drink only one backup? cos i might throw that up too, no?

One backup if you throw up. I'd do that. I will drink 20-25g and I'll prepare a backup with the same SN amount. I don't know if use 50 or 100 mL. I was doing some tests yesterday using 50 mL and when I throw the mix there was a little in the bottom that stayed. I think if I use 100 mL would be better to dissolve and less sn will remain in the bottom.