Method "Accidental" Death - holy Grail!?

[Rex2019]

So i've been wanting to ctb for a long while now but I have been struggling with the method part since it's really important to me that my family thinks it's an accident and they don't suffer. I also didn't want it to be too painful and also wanted it to be a method that has a reasonably good chance of success.​

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The other day I was reading the news and inspiration stuck. Here is the method I'm thinking of: go to Grand canyon in the summer and go on a long hike with very little water and get lost out there. Apparently many people die like that every year in the canyon. Even experienced athletes.​

As far as I can tell ( from the online searches) dehydration does not seem to be too painful. It feels uncomfortable in the beginning but you soon faint. Also since many others die this way, people will just think you are yet another idiot who didn't carry enoug​

h water. Plus for those people to whom it's important, your body will be pretty decent shape for your family to recover.​

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I don't know if I'm missing something.But so far I feel very excited about this method.. Thoughts?​

 

[Foresight]

There will be physical suffering, which is inevitable from the discomfort of the heat and dehydration, but also mental. You'll be alone with your thoughts. Then I'm assuming things will get confusing and painful. It's very uncontrolled compared to other methods. You might come in and out of consciousness. Your skin will burn. It's risky.

What made you against them knowing you took your life by choice in a more comfortable way? With this they'll wonder how scared you were, if you sought help, how long it took. They might dwell over it as much as an obvious suicide. You have to consider yourself too. You don't deserve to suffer for anyone else's sake. You never asked for this

I really hope we have a future where a comfortable assisted suicide is accepted. Whatever you choose I hope things work out okay

 

[Rex2019]

There will be physical suffering, which is inevitable from the discomfort of the heat and dehydration, but also mental. You'll be alone with your thoughts. Then I'm assuming things will get confusing and painful. It's very uncontrolled compared to other methods. You might come in and out of consciousness. Your skin will burn. It's risky.

What made you against them knowing you took your life by choice in a more comfortable way? With this they'll wonder how scared you were, if you sought help, how long it took. They might dwell over it as much as an obvious suicide. You have to consider yourself too. You don't deserve to suffer for anyone else's sake. You never asked for this

I really hope we have a future where a comfortable assisted suicide is accepted. Whatever you choose I hope things work out okay

Interesting! Thanks for your input. I never thought about those things. I guess I'll have to make a note or something in my phone which says something like " damn I ran out of water.. don't think I can go on...but I'm not in any pain.. it's peaceful..it's quiet and beautiful out here or something like that..." You know, just cover the points you were talking about so they are not left wondering...
Im not too worried about being alone with my thoughts. I think I should be able to handle that.

 

[c824767]

Despite series of Grand Canyon deaths, tourists still drawn to the edge

“It’s really tempting because you see the way to go down and you want to go down there to get a better view,” a park visitor said.

www.nbcnews.com

all these tourists from the Middle East and Asia falling off the edge...

Runner died of dehydration in canyon, autopsy shows

As National Park Service officials released more details about the dangerous Grand Canyon run attempted by a University of Chicago medical student who was a lauded marathoner, an autopsy showed she…

www.chicagotribune.com

I think if you run without water in over 100 degrees F in an area without people, you have to be really careful not to die.

 

[Rex2019]

Despite series of Grand Canyon deaths, tourists still drawn to the edge

“It’s really tempting because you see the way to go down and you want to go down there to get a better view,” a park visitor said.

www.nbcnews.com

all these tourists from the Middle East and Asia falling off the edge...

Runner died of dehydration in canyon, autopsy shows

As National Park Service officials released more details about the dangerous Grand Canyon run attempted by a University of Chicago medical student who was a lauded marathoner, an autopsy showed she…

www.chicagotribune.com

I think if you run without water in over 100 degrees F in an area without people, you have to be really careful not to die.

Yeah it was this story of Margaret that inspired me!

 

[Farmmaa]

It can take 10 days or more to die from dehydration.
You may, especially in the het, pass out after 3 or 4 days... but then you have to hope that no one happens to come across you for the next week.

 

[Sensei]

There are other options. An obvious one is overdosing. You will appear to have been addicted, but not suicidal. That's perhaps less traumatic for your family.

Another option is to fall or jump off a ship at sea. You would have to be heavily drugged, as drowning seems to be a very painful way to leave.

You can also inhale nitrogen which won't show up in an autopsy. However, someone must be willing to remove the equipment once you're dead.

There are probably many more and much better methods than the ones I've listed. My point is that there are more options.

 

[k75]

I don't know if I'm missing something.But so far I feel very excited about this method.. Thoughts?​

What you are missing is that this method is going to be very distressing and painful. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks you died like, you are actually going to be feeling that stuff and it's not going to be pleasant. So even if you make notes on your phone about feeling fine and everything, that's not even remotely going to reflect reality and it's going to be obvious.

You're basically talking heat stroke, sunburn, dehydration, which are all very bad conditions. You're going to suffer if you do this. I'm not sure where you got the impression that it was an easy death, because it's really not. I'm sorry. You said in your original post that you did not want it to be painful, I think you need to keep looking.

What It Feels Like When You Have Heatstroke—and How to Prevent It

Your head is pounding, your muscles are cramping, and your heart is racing. Then you get dizzy and the vomiting starts. Heatstroke kills thousands of people every year. This is what it feels like—and how to know when you’re in danger.

www.outsideonline.com

How long can you live without water? Facts and effects

The human body requires water to function properly. The ideal amount a person needs depends on several factors including age, sex, and physical activity levels. Learn more here.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

Adding this last one to show how miserable it is dying with no food or water under "good" conditions:

VSED in 9 1/2 Days - Alan's Transition

This section covers VSED in 9 1/2 Days. "I’m excited and curious about going to the next stage. I don’t have any fear. I have sadness." - Alan

www.phyllisshacter.com

 

[c824767]

There are other options. An obvious one is overdosing. You will appear to have been addicted, but not suicidal. That's perhaps less traumatic for your family.

Another option is to fall or jump off a ship at sea. You would have to be heavily drugged, as drowning seems to be a very painful way to leave.

You can also inhale nitrogen which won't show up in an autopsy. However, someone must be willing to remove the equipment once you're dead.

There are probably many more and much better methods than the ones I've listed. My point is that there are more options.

I think our people need to know that we want to die and why. We are not delusional. We have reasons and we have a right to a voice. This is not a place or a time to live happily ever after. We are in the biggest conundrum of humanity. We are seeing child labour and slave labour by the poor, associated with inhumane and unethical capitalism and starvation epidemics associated with war and drought, bulldozing through countries like a plague. We see trillions in tax havens, trillions in student debt, billions spent on plastic surgery, name an excessive use of monetary resources that will not produce a trickle down effect to the poor and it will surprise you how much of those uses exist. We do not need to live here if we do not like it. It is not like we can change anything, the best possibility for change that we can contribute to as far as I see it is: advocate for (physician or other) assisted dying so we can extricate ourselves from this unsaveable situation.

 

[Sensei]

I think our people need to know that we want to die and why. We are not delusional. We have reasons and we have a right to a voice. This is not a place or a time to live happily ever after. We are in the biggest conundrum of humanity. We are seeing child labour and slave labour by the poor, associated with inhumane and unethical capitalism and starvation epidemics associated with war and drought, bulldozing through countries like a plague. We see trillions in tax havens, trillions in student debt, billions spent on plastic surgery, name an excessive use of monetary resources that will not produce a trickle down effect to the poor and it will surprise you how much of those uses exist. We do not need to live here if we do not like it. It is not like we can change anything, the best possibility for change that we can contribute to as far as I see it is: advocate for (physician or other) assisted dying so we can extricate ourselves from this unsaveable situation.

I share your political sentiments. I'm slightly less pessimistic, though. I actually think change is possible. The problem is that people don't want change. They want an iPhone.

 

[c824767]

I share your political sentiments. I'm slightly less pessimistic, though. I actually think change is possible. The problem is that people don't want change. They want an iPhone.

and iphones are fun. Other than fun, we need a "voice against evil that is hostile to underprivileged humans" in the world community because fun with no purpose is patent nonsense.