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sserafim

sserafim

they say it’s darkest of all before the dawn
Sep 13, 2023
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Finding out the truth about life and human nature for the first time can be a traumatizing experience that takes a huge toll on your mind, it drives some to pure rage and anger, some to hopelessness and despair attempting to leave early, some may attempt bargaining for a "normal" life (Redpillers), others will deny it as the pain of the truth is far to much to bear (Bluepillers and normies) and some will simply swallow the pain, accept it and search for other things in life.

For me, the biggest blackpill is that life itself has no purpose except for survival. There is no point in living.
 
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EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

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The matrix was a mistake...
 
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Finding out the truth about life and human nature for the first time can be a traumatizing experience that takes a huge toll on your mind, it drives some to pure rage and anger, some to hopelessness and despair attempting to leave early, some may attempt bargaining for a "normal" life (Redpillers), others will deny it as the pain of the truth is far to much to bear (Bluepillers and normies) and some will simply swallow the pain, accept it and search for other things in life.

For me, the biggest blackpill is that life itself has no purpose except for survival. There is no point in living.
The thing with the blackpill is you can't get stuck choking on it. Got to swallow it then live with it.

I'm completely blackpilled politically. I think America is fucked, and I'm just going to live to watch part of the slow fall of modern-day Rome. While the instinct is to completely give up, that's choking on the pill. I have to do what I can for me and who I care about to put us in the best spot.

So life has no meaning? Swallow that pill. We're here. We're alive. We feel pain. We feel joy. Time to do the best we can with that shitty situation, knowing that "meaning" and "purpose" don't naturally exist, they're abstract concepts we give our own definitions to.
 
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arnxxx

arnxxx

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Yes life has no purpose except the purpose you give it yourself. That's freedom. I don't feel like your realisation is Blackpilled.
 
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sserafim

sserafim

they say it’s darkest of all before the dawn
Sep 13, 2023
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Yeah, I don't you understand what I meant when I said that it was a mistake.
Ohh. I see what you mean now. I agree that the matrix was a mistake. What purpose does it serve? None lol. Why was it even created? We will never know
 
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Dark Window

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Mar 12, 2024
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TBH I don't think life having no purpose is really an issue. Happy people don't sit there contemplating the meaning or purpose of life, they just enjoy it because they've found enough things to do that feel meaningful
 
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EvisceratedJester

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Ohh. I see what you mean now. I agree that the matrix was a mistake. What purpose does it serve? None lol. Why was it even created? We will never know
You still don't get it....
 
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Apr 18, 2023
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The purpose of human life is to propagate. Nothing more, nothing less. Thankfully as humans we have a choice to break free of that dead end cycle. If you asked some hoity toity philosopher type they'll probably give you some bs like all human activity and progress is to understand our place in the universe.
 
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derpyderpins

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Sep 19, 2023
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I've actually never watched The Matrix lol. I just know about red pill and blue pill
He means they shouldn't have made the movie because people he disagrees with use the terminology in a way that annoys him. (Is my guess)
 
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xinino

xinino

Anti humanist
Mar 31, 2024
399
Fuck truth, I want religion back. I just need to worshiper death and embrace the evil of life.

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xinino

xinino

Anti humanist
Mar 31, 2024
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The thing with the blackpill is you can't get stuck choking on it. Got to swallow it then live with it.

I'm completely blackpilled politically. I think America is fucked, and I'm just going to live to watch part of the slow fall of modern-day Rome. While the instinct is to completely give up, that's choking on the pill. I have to do what I can for me and who I care about to put us in the best spot.

So life has no meaning? Swallow that pill. We're here. We're alive. We feel pain. We feel joy. Time to do the best we can with that shitty situation, knowing that "meaning" and "purpose" don't naturally exist, they're abstract concepts we give our own definitions to.
Nihilism is cancer, I don't think we should swallow the pill but transgresses it.
 
jar-baby

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Jun 20, 2023
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Unless you're religious there's a good chance you already know there is no objective purpose of life. But you still probably feel that some pursuits are worthy or meaningful—that of truth, knowledge, happiness, the mitigation of suffering (your's or others')… and so on. I guess the question many of us face is to what degree those things are actually attainable, and whether they're worth the effort.

I liked this piece on the subject.

The point here is that meaning is always the result of an interaction between a conscious mind and the world and therefore that inherent meaning is as nonsensical as inherent size or motion.
Meaning is like beauty or terror or joy. It is an experience. And humans evolved to experience meaning just as they evolved to experience delicious food or pleasant odors. Meaning, in other words, is a natural phenomenon, a product of the human brain. Thus, the practical answer to the point of life is to experience meaning. And just as there is no one experience, so too there is no one meaning of life.
 
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xinino

xinino

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Mar 31, 2024
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Religion is the opium of the masses

Religion is cancer
Religion just got stigmatized by the docile herd, in fact, religion is freedom from constraints of rationality, a form of sacredness, I am creating my own religion based on human sacrifice, a death cult, death is my God, I need to glorify and love it to free myself from the curse of life and the excess.
The purpose of human life is to propagate. Nothing more, nothing less. Thankfully as humans we have a choice to break free of that dead end cycle. If you asked some hoity toity philosopher type they'll probably give you some bs like all human activity and progress is to understand our place in the universe.
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derpyderpins

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Sep 19, 2023
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You know that this forum was created by two "blackpillers" (Incels), right?
Call me glass half-full if you must, but I think even without the matrix they would've found a way to be miserable, make this forum, and use some lingo that would annoy people.
 
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Georg

Georg

Experienced
Feb 25, 2023
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Call me glass half-full if you must, but I think even without the matrix they would've found a way to be miserable, make this forum, and use some lingo that would annoy people.
I know it is not about the lingo for you. It is that you are using a Forum for free that these "annoying" dudes created. And yet you are still talking bad about them.
 
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derpyderpins

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Sep 19, 2023
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I know it is not about the lingo for you. It is that you are using a Forum for free that these "annoying" dudes created.
Tone is tough through text, sorry. I was just joking that if the matrix never existed it would not get rid of "redpill," "blackpill," etc., it would just change the names. I was not trying to make any further statement.
 
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EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

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Oct 21, 2023
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You know that this forum was created by two "blackpillers" (Incels), right?
So are we obligated to like incels then? What's your point?
 
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Georg

Georg

Experienced
Feb 25, 2023
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So are we obligated to like incels then? What's your point?
No, just dont shit at all of them just like Mainstream Media, reddit and Twitter do, espicially not when you are using a Forum Incels created.
 
Adûnâi

Adûnâi

Little Russian in-cel
Apr 25, 2020
852
I'm not so sure. Can't you consider most humans inanimate golems, and thus assume a more charitable view of them? Or would it only worsen your impression by mechanicising the living beings?

Religion is cancer
Everything is a religion, it's just some religions are nihilistic (individualist neo-Christian liberalism, looking at you).
 
EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
1,505
No, just dont shit at all of them just like Mainstream Media, reddit and Twitter do, espicially not when you are using a Forum Incels created.
Yes, let me not shit on the people who are misogynistic assholes./s

While I am slightly sympathetic towards them, people are justified in shitting on them. At the end of that day, this site has become removed from its creators and their philosophy.
 
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Georg

Experienced
Feb 25, 2023
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Yes, let me not shit on the people who are misogynistic assholes./s
Just lump all Incels together-theory. Sounds like something your textbook Incels do with women.


. At the end of that day, this site has become removed from its creators and their philosophy.
Nope. Lamarcus left this site on his own. Read here:

 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Why are we such slaves to our brains though? It's your brain that is desperately trying to find meaning in life when there very well might not be one. I guess we're slaves to all of our needs though- hunger, thirst, sexuality (for those who have sex drives), a need to feel entertained, a thirst for knowledge and understanding. Whatever.

We can surpress some of these needs more than others. Ultimately though, with enough conviction, we're able to supress all of them. We even have the ability to go against all instincts and social expectations and kill ourselves. Kind of impressive really. I'd say, as a species we've bypassed a lot of natural laws. Natural selection we tend to view as eugenics and consider it distasteful. We extend our lifetimes way beyond what is natural. We use IVF when people can't conceive naturally. Some of us manage to end our lives when we like.

In so many ways, we've learnt how not to be slaves to our anatomy and brains. Yet, in a way, this obsession with needing to know the meaning behind everything is maybe being driven by our brain's desire for knowledge. I guess it would be ok if we were any closer to knowing the meaning behind life but- are we? Do philosophers now know anymore than those in ancient times?

It's like- I do understand the frustration and strangeness of it all. It all baffles me too. The big questions: Is there a reason we're here? Was there a creator or a plan? What are we supposed to be doing here? WTF is consciousness? But I suppose ultimately, I'm not sure me thinking about these questions over and over, getting frustrated is getting me anywhere.

I guess the majority of people just don't have enough time to think about this stuff. They're too busy working or recovering from work. Plus, people realise that it makes them miserable I suppose so, they try not to dwell on it.

If someone isn't considering suicide or, they know they wouldn't be able to carry it out, I think they will sometimes just try to get through life as best they can. Which can include things like trying to avoid rabbit holes of nihilistic despair.

I guess my stance is that I sympathise with the nihilistic perspective but ultimately, I don't want to become destitute. So- I have to play the game. I have to work. I have to try and keep my mind together as much as possible to do that. I get the impression most of the ardent nihilists here are taken care of financially. I remember reading that philosophers had to be apart from society in order to be able to see it clearly and comment on it. Sometimes I wonder if that's true of nihilists. How many can stand working or doing anything really? Seeing as it must all seem so pointless. I do get it but I think it makes life a lot harder.
 
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EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
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Nope. Lamarcus left this site on his own. Read here:

Okay, and so? That doesn't address anything that I said.
 
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
19,616
The blackpill is tough to swallow because of how insipid hope is but it's the closest in alignment to my beliefs. I can't change any of the societal issues that led me to this misery so why bother fighting for anything?

Conversely, there exists the "whitepill" philosophy. From what I understand it basically involves embracing being a volcel or even achieving spiritual enlightenment like a monk. Maybe I just don't get it but to me this is no better than being a cuck or a masochist and choosing to enjoy the misery. It's false hope essentially.
 
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