Your SN directions

[C_F]

For all of you planning to do SN, from all the data you've gathered, can you tell me what you plan to take (names of the antiemetics, sleeping pills, acid reducers, etc), amount you'll take, where you will be finding these things (doctor, online pharmacy, dark web), the schedule of it including things like when you won't be eating and how you plan to take the SN, etc!

There are differing opinions on a few things, and for those of you who've "figured out" how they'll go about this, I'd love to know!

I partially am asking because I've been overwhelmed by opinions/comments and feel weak to figure this out :(

 

[White_Room293]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/first-step-of-my-plan.22386/post-414362

 

[Trainwreck]

Still formulating my plan. There are so many different threads and suggestions, so I totally get why you're overwhelmed.

 

[White_Room293]

Still formulating my plan. There are so many different threads and suggestions, so I totally get why you're overwhelmed.

You have to choose what works for you. I'm torn between heroin and nitrogen gas but my third option is SN because of how easy it can be with benzos and an anti emetic. I should be able to get another benzo prescription but I have to come up with an excuse after a suicide attempt

 

[alexithymia]

I'm overwhelmed as well. There's so much information out there and I'm barely functioning as it is right now.

 

[Trainwreck]

You have to choose what works for you. I'm torn between heroin and nitrogen gas but my third option is SN because of how easy it can be with benzos and an anti emetic. I should be able to get another benzo prescription but I have to come up with an excuse after a suicide attempt

The one thing that concerns me about benzos is that you may go to sleep before ingesting enough SN. A user just posted that he took a high dose of benzos with his SN, then a little later posted that nothing was happening, then he never came back. The benzos surely knocked him out, but did the SN do its job? I hope he has found peace.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-in-40-minutes-took-meto-and-ranidine.22739/

Wrote up my plan, but might still add something like Tylenol to the regime (for headaches):

If I tolerate domperidone:

Take 15 mg Domperidone every 8 hours (starting 48 hours in advance)

Take last dose of Domperidone & 8 mg Ondansetron 60 minutes prior.

Take 300 mg ranitidine 50 minutes prior.

Take 1 mg clonazapam 30 minutes prior.

Take 20g SN in 100ml water (or maybe in capsules instead). Have backup SN ready if needed.

 

[White_Room293]

The one thing that concerns me about benzos is that you may go to sleep before ingesting enough SN. A user just posted that he took a high dose of benzos with his SN, then a little later posted that nothing was happening, then he never came back. The benzos surely knocked him out, but did the SN do its job? I hope he has found peace.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-in-40-minutes-took-meto-and-ranidine.22739/

Wrote up my plan, but might still add something like Tylenol to the regime (for headaches):

If I tolerate domperidone:

Take 15 mg Domperidone every 8 hours (starting 48 hours in advance)

Take last dose of Domperidone & 8 mg Ondansetron 60 minutes prior.

Take 300 mg ranitidine 50 minutes prior.

Take 1 mg clonazapam 30 minutes prior.

Take 20g SN in 100ml water (or maybe in capsules instead). Have backup SN ready if needed.

That sounds solid except that you should probably calculate your required dosage needed by body weight and then increase it a couple grams. There's no need to take more as it can increase nausea and add other discomforts. The Tylenol sounds very solid and I would add that around an hour before with the last dose of anti emetics and if you can try adding a low dose opioids to reduce pain if you have access to the them

 

[Trainwreck]

Thanks! I have considered a lower dose of SN because I'm really underweight (83 pounds or so). But I also have Crohn's disease, so I don't want to underdose in case of absorption issues. I have some old Roxicet (Acetaminophen / Oxycodone), but don't know if it's still any good. I'll have to check the date, but at minimum it's 3 years old. I remember it always gave me kind of a euphoric feeling, but I'm not sure if that's good when you want to just go to sleep.

 

[White_Room293]

Thanks! I have considered a lower dose of SN because I'm really underweight (83 pounds or so). But I also have Crohn's disease, so I don't want to underdose in case of absorption issues. I have some old Roxicet (Acetaminophen / Oxycodone), but don't know if it's still any good. I'll have to check the date, but at minimum it's 3 years old. I remember it always gave me kind of a euphoric feeling, but I'm not sure if that's good when you want to just go to sleep.

You're incredibly underweight and anything more than 15 g for you is insane. I only plan on taking 15 g since I'm 66 kg. As for the oxy, medications like those don't stop working but just have less effectiveness. I doubt they're anything less than 90% as effective than when they were first produced. And as far as I know those drugs don't break down quickly. I would take those pills until the combined amount of Acetaminophen is around 1200-1500 mg and then pair it with one more 500 mg Tylenol but whatever you do don't exceed 2000 mg. One more thing, you need to take the Klonopin at the right time so you need to try and consume .5 to 1 mg of the stuff on it's own to test the drugs effect on you. Practice this a few times to get a solid picture of how to time it with the rest of the drugs. Personally, and don't use this as your own guide, Klonopin starts kicking in at around 35 minutes and blacks me out at 90 minutes.

 

[Trainwreck]

You're incredibly underweight and anything more than 15 g for you is insane. I only plan on taking 15 g since I'm 66 kg. As for the oxy, medications like those don't stop working but just have less effectiveness. I doubt they're anything less than 90% as effective than when they were first produced. And as far as I know those drugs don't break down quickly. I would take those pills until the combined amount of Acetaminophen is around 1200-1500 mg and then pair it with one more 500 mg Tylenol but whatever you do don't exceed 2000 mg. One more thing, you need to take the Klonopin at the right time so you need to try and consume .5 to 1 mg of the stuff on it's own to test the drugs effect on you. Practice this a few times to get a solid picture of how to time it with the rest of the drugs. Personally, and don't use this as your own guide, Klonopin starts kicking in at around 35 minutes and blacks me out at 90 minutes.

That's really helpful, thank you! 15 grams was my original plan, but then I saw that Exit keeps upping the dose and I got nervous.

I've always had a pretty high tolerance for meds that should put you under. I once had a bronchialscope fully awake because they couldn't get me to sleep, and right after I went back to my room and ate lunch. The staff looked at me like I was nuts. I guess it's just in my makeup, because I've only had pain meds sporadically. I'll test out the clonazapam, but I suspect I'll have a slightly delayed reaction compared to the average person.

I also have some butal-acet-caff for migraines, but since there's a little caffeine in them, I thought they might not be helpful. I obviously still have a little refining to do with my method, but it's close!

 

[White_Room293]

That's really helpful, thank you! 15 grams was my original plan, but then I saw that Exit keeps upping the dose and I got nervous.

I've always had a pretty high tolerance for meds that should put you under. I once had a bronchialscope fully awake because they couldn't get me to sleep, and right after I went back to my room and ate lunch. The staff looked at me like I was nuts. I guess it's just in my makeup, because I've only had pain meds sporadically. I'll test out the clonazapam, but I suspect I'll have a slightly delayed reaction compared to the average person.

I also have some butal-acet-caff for migraines, but since there's a little caffeine in them, I thought they might not be helpful. I obviously still have a little refining to do with my method, but it's close!

If you're resistant to sleeping drugs than obviously take a significantly higher dose. I don't think caffeine is a good idea unless it's under 50mg

 

[Trainwreck]

If you're resistant to sleeping drugs than obviously take a significantly higher dose. I don't think caffeine is a good idea unless it's under 50mg

Yeah, I get hit with the sedation later. I don't like taking sedatives because I'm so groggy the next day. Back when I took Zyrtec, I found the ideal time to take it was 4:30 PM. Any later, and I'd be unable to get up in the morning. The average person is zonked within half an hour, and presumably still can wake up at a decent hour. I've just got a weird metabolism I guess. Hopefully that won't screw me.

 

[C_F]

The one thing that concerns me about benzos is that you may go to sleep before ingesting enough SN. A user just posted that he took a high dose of benzos with his SN, then a little later posted that nothing was happening, then he never came back. The benzos surely knocked him out, but did the SN do its job? I hope he has found peace.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-in-40-minutes-took-meto-and-ranidine.22739/

Wrote up my plan, but might still add something like Tylenol to the regime (for headaches):

If I tolerate domperidone:

Take 15 mg Domperidone every 8 hours (starting 48 hours in advance)

Take last dose of Domperidone & 8 mg Ondansetron 60 minutes prior.

Take 300 mg ranitidine 50 minutes prior.

Take 1 mg clonazapam 30 minutes prior.

Take 20g SN in 100ml water (or maybe in capsules instead). Have backup SN ready if needed.

Thank you for typing this out - I am looking for formats like that. Where are you getting these prescriptions and why Ondansetron as well as Domperidone an hour before?

 

[Elias]

So for what it's worth, here is my plan. First, the stuff:

- Métoclopramide as my anti emetic
- SN itself
- Xanax to mitigate my anxieties
- A potion bottle with 100 ml of water to dilute the SN into

So, if I stay course with my initial plan, I will be going the "48h regimen" route. Which means, 10mg of Métoclopramide every 8 hours. Then, when the times come, I'll take Xanax to feel relaxed, as much as I know my limits to be before sleeping, and then take the SN after waiting at least 60 min since my last antiemetic dose. Then, methemoglobinemia and shit, sweet release of death etc.

If I somehow feel pressured to go quickly, then it's going to be a Stat dose of antiemetic 60mg Métoclopramide, waiting at least 45min to 1h, and then SN, and gone forever.

Now there is an optimal way if you find acid reducers (h2 antagonists like Tagamet) I believe, but I was not able to obtain those.

I also everything for a CO poisoning and hanging if all else fail. You're never too sure with this kind of matter. I think that's the first time "Relax, it's not a matter of life or death" is not applicable.

Good luck with your researches.

 

[Throwaway8675309]

I know it's slightly off topic but does anyone know how blue you get when you're found?

 

[Stan]

somewhere in this range

 

[Dystopia]

I know it's slightly off topic but does anyone know how blue you get when you're found?

Just look up some pictures of cyanosis if you're interested.

 

[Stan]

 

[C_F]

So for what it's worth, here is my plan. First, the stuff:

- Métoclopramide as my anti emetic
- SN itself
- Xanax to mitigate my anxieties
- A potion bottle with 100 ml of water to dilute the SN into

So, if I stay course with my initial plan, I will be going the "48h regimen" route. Which means, 10mg of Métoclopramide every 8 hours. Then, when the times come, I'll take Xanax to feel relaxed, as much as I know my limits to be before sleeping, and then take the SN after waiting at least 60 min since my last antiemetic dose. Then, methemoglobinemia and shit, sweet release of death etc.

If I somehow feel pressured to go quickly, then it's going to be a Stat dose of antiemetic 60mg Métoclopramide, waiting at least 45min to 1h, and then SN, and gone forever.

Now there is an optimal way if you find acid reducers (h2 antagonists like Tagamet) I believe, but I was not able to obtain those.

I also everything for a CO poisoning and hanging if all else fail. You're never too sure with this kind of matter. I think that's the first time "Relax, it's not a matter of life or death" is not applicable.

Good luck with your researches.

Thanks for this! How did you obtain your Metoclopramide?

 

[Elias]

@C_F
My psychiatrist gave me antidepressant (Trintellix) and I faked having bad nausea. He gave me some crap at first. So I insisted and said that his medication made me worse off than before and I was gonna stop taking it. That's when he decided to give me some Primpéran (Méto). Using their own prescription-happy method against them. :)

 

[Trainwreck]

I know it's slightly off topic but does anyone know how blue you get when you're found?

Also on this topic, so long as you start turning blue shortly after ingesting the SN, it will mean cbt is a go? I worry about my lousy intestines absorbing the SN, and absolutely do not want to fall asleep before I know it's going to work. I'll do it after my parents go to bed, so hopefully I will have a good amount of time before anyone checks on me.

 

[Elias]

Also on this topic, so long as you start turning blue shortly after ingesting the SN, it will mean cbt is a go? I worry about my lousy intestines absorbing the SN, and absolutely do not want to fall asleep before I know it's going to work. I'll do it after my parents go to bed, so hopefully I will have a good amount of time before anyone checks on me.

When you turn blue it means cyanosis is kicking in. That's between 15 and 30% of methemoglobinemia level. Ctb is still not a go. When you'll feel dizziness, and lose consciousness, you'll be at around 50%, and by the time you start to have seizure (while unconscious) you'll have reached 70% and over that it's death.

 

[welshie84]

Googles cyanosis. Good grief. Not sure I wanna end up looking like that

 

[Dawn0071111]

If post death

Googles cyanosis. Good grief. Not sure I wanna end up looking like that

The best looking post death body is by Carbon Monoxide... just a little rosy.
I bought a scale to measure my SN. I dont think Im going to be able to tolerate the Antimetics, although I have both (meto & donperidone). I am sensitive to stimulants & I have already read the accounts of people who get the stimulant effect and start pacing and get restless and can't sleep so I'm sure I would get the same effect possibly even worse by Red the side effects of these medications and it turns out that both are actually banned in the United States. I don't need to take something that's going to have my heart palpitating and give me an anxiety attack when I'm trying to catch the bus... I've done some research for Alternatives and hydroxyzine seems to also have an antiemetic effect and I figure if I do two day fast and my body is empty of food that I should should be able to absorb pretty quickly... also considering that I'm going to be backing up this method with carbon monoxide in the room there's no way I live through it..... I am a little sad and scared about it

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[Neville1]

@Dawn0071111 Of the two, only domperidone is banned in the US. Meto is available with prescription and domperidone may be legally used through an exception process. You could try 10 mg to test your tolerance. The FDA's reasoning doesn't seem to completely justify it's ban. You shouldn't worry about it causing cardiac arrithymia or arrest while using for SN.

How to Request Domperidone for Expanded Access Use

FDA recognizes that there are some patients with severe gastrointestinal motility disorders that are difficult to manage with available therapy for whom domperidone’s potential benefits may justify its potential risks. Patients 12 years of age and older with certain gastrointestinal (GI) conditions

www.fda.gov

Edit: Corrected

 

[Trainwreck]

When you turn blue it means cyanosis is kicking in. That's between 15 and 30% of methemoglobinemia level. Ctb is still not a go. When you'll feel dizziness, and lose consciousness, you'll be at around 50%, and by the time you start to have seizure (while unconscious) you'll have reached 70% and over that it's death.

Thank you, very helpful! I would like to take a benzo to relax, but I want to be aware enough to know whether the SN is working, so I may have to skip it. I guess an hour of being miserable beats a lifetime of being miserable.

About the seizures, does anyone know if this is noisy in any way? Can people cry out if they are unconscious? I seem to recall a post somewhere about the medics being called because the people in the next room could hear them.

Edit: Have there been any cases of someone passing out from SN, but then waking up later? Once you've passed out, I'm hoping there is zero chance for your body to make a comeback (unless someone finds you of, course).

 

[Stan]

Edit: Have there been any cases of someone passing out from SN, but then waking up later? Once you've passed out, I'm hoping there is zero chance for your body to make a comeback (unless someone finds you of, course).

SN is reversible. Sodium Azide has no treatment

 

[welshie84]

Surely the blue indicates a lack of oxygen ? Would you wanna risk it being reversed.

 

[Raggas]

Surely the blue indicates a lack of oxygen ? Would you wanna risk it being reversed.

It's been said to be safe to reverse. Also no one who has been saved by the anti-dote on this board had any permanent damage.

 

[heylightiforgot]

About the seizures, does anyone know if this is noisy in any way? Can people cry out if they are unconscious? I seem to recall a post somewhere about the medics being called because the people in the next room could hear them.

I'd like to know this too.