you shouldnt care about your parents REMOTELY

[mehwhoknows]

I can't believe there's some people listing sadness from parents as a genuine deciding demotivating factor for ctb.

do you understand the crucial permanence of you coming into this world under your specific inferior circumstances (for one reason or another, no one is depressed for no logical point at all, whether its worse genetics with predisposition to mental disorders, financial circumstances, malformed shitty physical development, or any other reason you couldn't fully control when you shaped your current "life" or identity)

the reason you want to leave this earth is a direct testament to the garbage job your parents did, and it all relates to how far you deviated from what puts your body in a state of comfort, security, growth, and present living, an AUTHENTIC human/ordinary lifestyle away from technology, economy, law, diversity, forced social conformity, and basically enslavement of true will.

your parents brought injustice to you and your pathetic existence, it was in there hands to either avoid reproducing, or do it properly for appropriate homo sapien satisfaction

many of you are led by blind love, its almost like the trauma and vacancy their intended part in your life should've been fuels you to seek it that much more at the cost of your dignity, and fairness to what was harmful/bad/unethical

some will reply with "they did what they could, they tried their best" and what? what did their best efforts provide? if a serial r4pist tries his best to only brutalize adults instead of infants, what joy or pleasure did the victims receive?

you being birthed was the crime, you having improper crooked unnatural development was the curse you bear till death

if your suicidal, fuck your parents lmao, stop being such slaves to people who brought this sorrow into you. its hilarious reading people planning "suicide notes" or leaving "guilt for their mother's circumstances"

makes me think half of this forum isn't even serious about ending your brain and disrupting everything. its either ignorance, of superficial kindness

 

[ForgottenAgain]

There's no reason for this post to be this aggressive and targeted to the reader so much. Feels like projection. I'm sorry if you feel so negatively about your parents, doesn't mean others had the same experience. Don't insult the parents of people you know nothing about.

 

[mehwhoknows]

cope i MEANT EVERYONE who is away from nature. no matter what ur part is in society, this can be a rich slave, or one in dirt poor in a filthy slum

There's no reason for this post to be this aggressive and targeted to the reader so much. Feels like projection. I'm sorry if you feel so negatively about your parents, doesn't mean others had the same experience. Don't insult the parents of people you know nothing about.

 

[rozeske]

No no. We don't do that here.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I agree. What people here don't acknowledge is that the only reason why they're even alive to begin with is because of their parents. It's your parents that caused you to die since they gave you birth to begin with. It really is that simple. If it wasn't for my parents, I wouldn't be dealing with this atrocious and repulsive life. Ironically enough, the only reason why I'm still alive is because of my parents, not because I care about them but because they are super overprotective and won't let me do my own thing which means that I can't get SN. If I could get SN and the other drugs related to that, I definitely would have been gone by now without hesitating. I'm only alive because I can't access a way out of here

 

[Downdraft]

The post could use some re-writing to be more assertive.

But yeah, It's kinda like taking a hostage. Suicide usually hurts those around you, we know, it's an integral point of discussion and for suicide to be possible we have to accept it. One accepts risk when creating any life, yet when tables turn and life goes wrong parents are this super-protected group where suicide must be forbidden to protect them from the risk they wanted to proceed with. The general (though not all are like this) philosophy of parenting is about total ownership of life. Obviously there are good parents but there will always be bad chances on life even with the best.

When anyone says they don't wanna hurt loved ones it's understandable, it's hard for everyone, but that's the point of it, you make other's suffer so you don't have to. And as I said before, suicidal ideation is the culmination of thr biggest mental pain compared to even grief, (unless they are children of course), so living for others it's a pretty bad harm measurement.

Anyway the choice is up to the individual, suicide is very taxing process best used as a last alternative. This is not to say you should kys.

 

[hēĸsenko]

My friend, aggression will lead you nowhere and that's just feels like self-projection. Sorry, if this is your case.

Yeah, making someone sad with your death is, technically, is absolutely not a reason to keep your misery. But that purely depends on every person's experience, on every person's circumstances. Yes, your parents didn't ask, if you want to be born.

But your your parents and your environment, with rare exceptions, doesn't define you and your being. Almost always there are ways to live. So no need to blame anyone. It sucks, if your close one's aren't that good, but doesn't mean other people have this problem.

And, of course, we shouldn't forget, that everyone feels it differently. For many people social relations can be a serious reason to keep living. It's not good or bad. It just exists.

Has no intention to insult, It's up to you to think and feel in a specific way, but all this aggression feels like a simply pent up emotion or, maybe, immaturity. First one sucks, especially when there's noone to talk to. Second one, well, yeah.

 

[FlufflesAway]

it might be aggresively written, but i agree with it 100%

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Oi, can you quiet that self-projection of yours down? Some of us are trying to get some sleep here.



For a lot of people, their parents are people who they care a lot about. There isn't anything they can do to change that. I do kind of resent my parents for having me and I do believe that deciding to have kids is incredibly selfish, but I also love my parents. These are people who went out of their way to try and ensure that I was loved and cared for. These are people who I've essentially been bonding with for the entirety of my life. I'm not just going to throw away my love for them because I resent them a bit.

Also, this shit here

makes me think half of this forum isn't even serious about ending your brain and disrupting everything. its either ignorance, of superficial kindness

You can go and shove it back up your poop shoot. Do not go around invalidating other people's suicidality just because you can't comprehend the idea of people caring about their parents. Some of us do still love our parents and the positive memories we have of them don't just die away due to us having some negative thoughts on them.

You can stop coming on here if all you plan on doing is talking about how "hilarious" you find people's suicide notes to be and invalidating others' suicidality.

 

[wildflowers1996]

with my parents, I don't think how my life turned out was their fault
I wish they never had had me, but they didn't know I would be so miserable, so I can't hate them
I know my mum loves me and would take my pain away if she could

 

[Forever Sleep]

I think intention has to play a part though. Maybe we can accuse them of being delluded, naive, blinded by love, horny and unprotected, selfish even- they wanted to experience parenthood- so- careless maybe. Maybe they didn't think through everything carefully enough. Maybe they were too over confident in what they believed they could protect us from. Maybe they genuinely enjoyed life or felt like they had the means to give a child a really good life. It may not have even occured to them it could end up so badly if they hadn't experienced it.

Still- how many intentionally intended mallice when they created us? Hopefully, not so many. They may have even tried very hard as parents and we may genuinely love them.

Personally, I get the impression my Dad did go through a suicidal phase when my Mum died but, he hung on for my sake. In some ways in my holding on for him now, I feel like I'm returning the favour.

Personally speaking though- hell yes- I'm an anti-natilist. I think it would be inhumane for me to reproduce.

 

[CatLvr]

Oi, can you quiet that self-projection of yours down? Some of us are trying to get some sleep here.



For a lot of people, their parents are people who they care a lot about. There isn't anything they can do to change that. I do kind of resent my parents for having me and I do believe that deciding to have kids is incredibly selfish, but I also love my parents. These are people who went out of their way to try and ensure that I was loved and cared for. These are people who I've essentially been bonding with for the entirety of my life. I'm not just going to throw away my love for them because I resent them a bit.

Also, this shit here

You can go and shove it back up your poop shoot. Do not go around invalidating other people's suicidality just because you can't comprehend the idea of people caring about their parents. Some of us do still love our parents and the positive memories we have of them don't just die away due to us having some negative thoughts on them.

You can stop coming on here if all you plan on doing is talking about how "hilarious" you find people's suicide notes to be and invalidating others' suicidality.

I loathe my parents with a fervor that I dare anyone to match (and with just cause, I might add) and I agree with you COMPLETELY. Just because I had horrible people for parents doesn't mean any of the rest of you did.

 

[Downdraft]

I loathe my parents with a fervor that I dare anyone to match

I accept your challenge kind sir.

 

[ZeroM24]

My parents raised me completely fine, far better than most other people. I just never liked life, I can't be motivated for anything or pursue goals and most aspects of life and human society confuse or scare me. I am just a error of existence.

 

[DefinitelyReady]

The immaturity of these threads just keeps going further and further south.

 

[AuroraB]

You do YOU, bro.

 

[nattys5thtoenail]

I understand your point especially since I'm also an anti-natalist but not everyone has bad parents, some people want to CTB because of external reasons like bullying or abuse trauma from other relatives, or they're probably terminally ill. You have every right to dislike your parents, but not everyone has to do the same as you.

 

[-nobodyknows-]

No. My parents are good people. They tried very hard with me. They did all they could. I do not blame them at all for my current situation.

 

[BecomingTired]

I can't believe there's some people listing sadness from parents as a genuine deciding demotivating factor for ctb.

do you understand the crucial permanence of you coming into this world under your specific inferior circumstances (for one reason or another, no one is depressed for no logical point at all, whether its worse genetics with predisposition to mental disorders, financial circumstances, malformed shitty physical development, or any other reason you couldn't fully control when you shaped your current "life" or identity)

the reason you want to leave this earth is a direct testament to the garbage job your parents did, and it all relates to how far you deviated from what puts your body in a state of comfort, security, growth, and present living, an AUTHENTIC human/ordinary lifestyle away from technology, economy, law, diversity, forced social conformity, and basically enslavement of true will.

your parents brought injustice to you and your pathetic existence, it was in there hands to either avoid reproducing, or do it properly for appropriate homo sapien satisfaction

many of you are led by blind love, its almost like the trauma and vacancy their intended part in your life should've been fuels you to seek it that much more at the cost of your dignity, and fairness to what was harmful/bad/unethical

some will reply with "they did what they could, they tried their best" and what? what did their best efforts provide? if a serial r4pist tries his best to only brutalize adults instead of infants, what joy or pleasure did the victims receive?

you being birthed was the crime, you having improper crooked unnatural development was the curse you bear till death

if your suicidal, fuck your parents lmao, stop being such slaves to people who brought this sorrow into you. its hilarious reading people planning "suicide notes" or leaving "guilt for their mother's circumstances"

makes me think half of this forum isn't even serious about ending your brain and disrupting everything. its either ignorance, of superficial kindness

I don't at all have a good relationship with my family(very much the opposite) but this still comes off too standoffish. You don't know others' experiences that led them up to CTB and you shouldn't exactly preach this as the only truth, there are so many different ways someone's eventual decline into ctb'ing can be completely out of the parents' hands and they couldn't at all have expected this: they are just human.

I'm sorry you must've had horrible experiences that led up to this post, and if it's just a way to vent then that's okay but you don't need to attack other posters' that don't share your experiences or thoughts.

 

[coolgal82]

no my parents are good (way better than i deserve) and how ive treated them is a big part of like why i wanna ctb i have been nothing but awful to them and im just a burden on them like i cant do anything independently or live independently but they still just like keep trying for me and i dont deserve it and like even if i can accept it'd be better for them it still hurts to think how sad i'll make them yknow