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Would you still CTB if you knew it would trigger another's?

  • Yes

    Votes: 25 69.4%
  • No

    Votes: 11 30.6%

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    36
before20

before20

I can't turn this thing off, it keeps following me
Jan 28, 2025
80
I've gone back and forth on this. I don't think he directly said he would CTB, but I remember my dad telling me I'm the only worthwhile thing in his life and that I'm his primary motivation to get up everyday. This coupled with the fact he honestly has a pretty shit life—meh job, broken marriage, sleeps on the basement couch every night, chronic marijuana and tobacco user, not active socially—makes me concerned he'll CTB once I do. But our relationship has been suffering recently and as more miserable time passes, I care less and less.

Are any of you struggling with a similar situation?
 
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Michi_Violeta

Michi_Violeta

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Feb 3, 2025
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I've gone back and forth on this. I don't think he directly said he would CTB, but I remember my dad telling me I'm the only worthwhile thing in his life and that I'm his primary motivation to get up everyday. This coupled with the fact he honestly has a pretty shit life—meh job, broken marriage, sleeps on the basement couch every night, chronic marijuana and tobacco user, not active socially—makes me concerned he'll CTB once I do. But our relationship has been suffering recently and as more miserable time passes, I care less and less.

Are any of you struggling with a similar situation?

It's exactly my situation and it feels like I'm trapped. My mother raised me by herself and I'm her everything, I was what kept her going when my "father" left us. She's a great person and we have a good relationship, but I feel tired with my life and I don't have any reasons of my own to keep going. Nothing mine is alright in my life and when she asks me how I'm feeling she asks me to be completely honest with her. When the topic of ctb comes out, she says she'll "go right after me" and a few days earlier she said "she'll start asking God to take her so I'm free to make my choice."

I can't answer the poll. I want to, sometimes I think I can do it despite knowing it could possibly cause her to do so too, but sometimes it's the definitive limiting factor.
 
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before20

before20

I can't turn this thing off, it keeps following me
Jan 28, 2025
80
It's exactly my situation and it feels like I'm trapped. My mother raised me by herself and I'm her everything, I was what kept her going when my "father" left us. She's a great person and we have a good relationship, but I feel tired with my life and I don't have any reasons of my own to keep going. Nothing mine is alright in my life and when she asks me how I'm feeling she asks me to be completely honest with her. When the topic of ctb comes out, she says she'll "go right after me" and a few days earlier she said "she'll start asking God to take her so I'm free to make my choice."

I can't answer the poll. I want to, sometimes I think I can do it despite knowing it could possibly cause her to do so too, but sometimes it's the definitive limiting factor.
Is it weird I find it sweet that your mother wants you to be able to make that choice freely?

Still, I see (and acutely understand) how that can cause inner conflict at the same time. I don't have an answer for you but I hope you figure it out 💔 there's certainly no rush. Death will come anyway.
 
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Michi_Violeta

Michi_Violeta

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Feb 3, 2025
72
Is it weird I find it sweet that your mother wants you to be able to make that choice freely?

Still, I see (and acutely understand) how that can cause inner conflict at the same time. I don't have an answer for you but I hope you figure it out 💔 there's certainly no rush. Death will come anyway.

Thank you, I do understand your scenario too and there are definitely no easy answers here: only goal is peace, there's indeed no rush. And it isn't weird, she definitely means well and it just goes on to show just how sweet she is, but it definitely hit hard when she said it. I know it wasn't her intention, but it made me feel guilty for feeling the way I feel, for telling her the way I feel even though she insists on me being honest. It felt like even when trying to be honest I was hurting the person who loves me the most and just made me feel more pressure, more trapped.

Who knows, maybe realizing your father may CTB if you do could be a spark to try and improve the relationship if only so there can be a memory of a few last good days together.
 
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before20

before20

I can't turn this thing off, it keeps following me
Jan 28, 2025
80
It's very beautiful you can be so honest with her. But I feel for you, that sort of direct confirmation must be very hard to hear, and makes a very difficult decision more difficult.
It felt like even when trying to be honest I was hurting the person who loves me the most and just made me feel more pressure, more trapped.
While it may hurt for her to hear, some would argue that completely blindsiding her would be more hurtful. There's nothing wrong with sharing your pain; it makes it easier to carry. I'm sure that's what she wants for you more than anything.
Who knows, maybe realizing your father may CTB if you do could be a spark to try and improve the relationship if only so there can be a memory of a few last good days together.
This is a good point and put things into perspective for me. I want to have a good few last months with my dad. Thanks for reminding me.
 
Michi_Violeta

Michi_Violeta

Member
Feb 3, 2025
72
It's very beautiful you can be so honest with her. But I feel for you, that sort of direct confirmation must be very hard to hear, and makes a very difficult decision more difficult.

While it may hurt for her to hear, some would argue that completely blindsiding her would be more hurtful. There's nothing wrong with sharing your pain; it makes it easier to carry. I'm sure that's what she wants for you more than anything.

This is a good point and put things into perspective for me. I want to have a good few last months with my dad. Thanks for reminding me.

And thank you too for reminding me that blindsiding the ones you love is even more painful than sharing your pain with them. I should know, being blindsided by my ex destroyed me emotionally. I Inherited my mother's sensitivity, but sadly not her strength, or maybe she was fortunate enough to live in times when people weren't so awful.

Here's hoping you at least have a good few last months with him and that that memory is enough for him not to CTB when you're finally in peace.
 
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loneloser

loneloser

i wanna sleep 4ever <3
Jan 16, 2025
94
i mean my parents would probably be happy but my brother might kill himself too. my brother is just like my parents so in that case i would still ctb.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
10,855
I'm also holding on for my Dad. I don't think he would actually kill himself but, it would very likely devastate him and, I want to do all I can to avoid that.

In general though, it's a very tough question. I suppose there's a possibility that our suicides could either trigger other people's or, make them see suicide as a more feasible option.

I suppose at the end of the day, I think we should try not to hurt others if we can. Ultimately though, we are responsible for our own choices in life. Obviously, someone bullying another is directly degrading their quality of life. So, they could be held responsible. As to actions we undertake that may possibly cause collateral damage. That happens all the time though. I'd actually say bringing life here in the first place falls under that category. Even if the child lives a reasonably happy life, they will still be exposed to death.

If that's the main criticism of suicide- we're exposing loved ones to the grief experienced following death, then- birth is even worse! We'll likely all witness multiple deaths before going through it ourselves. There's no avoiding that. We're mortal!

I do find it kind of ironic that we (me included) give so much thought and effort towards protecting our parents from grief. I wonder if they really considered how they would protect us from grief and suffering. I'm not sure that they did really because, they can't ultimately.

On the one hand, I do kind of resent it that I'm having to be the responsible one now and, spare them from grief but still- when I think about what it would likely do to them, emotionally I know I need to.

So, it's like I'm of two minds. Logically speaking- we ought to be able to save ourselves from the distress we're in. Even if that means to suicide. We weren't given the choice in being born. We didn't consent to this life. We've (most likely) tried to make things work but can't. We're suffering severely in some way. If people truly love us, surely- they shouldn't want us to live and suffer like this. So- from that perspective- it's their thinking that needs adjusting to accept that it's actually reasonable for someone who can't cope with life anymore to stop it. Also that it is actually selfish of them to trap us here in pain because they don't want us to go.

Emotionally though, I think we realise that, even if they are compassionate enough to realise we just wanted to end our pain. Even if they can feel relief for us, they'll still likely grieve deeply. So, it's also likely we won't want to do that to the people we love. So, logically, yes, emotionally, no.
 
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wanttodie

wanttodie

Enlightened
Apr 19, 2018
1,820
YES Would you still CTB if you knew it would trigger another
 
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ringo99

ringo99

Arcanist
Apr 18, 2023
461
I get it. My mom practically raised me alone because was an emotionally abusive pos. She's in her 60s and has numerous health problems. If I ctbed it'll probably hit her hard. Luckily unlike me, she has lots of friends and relatives who will step in to help her move on. I'm also working on ways to leave her a decent amount of money so she can live comfortably for a decade at least. So I'm definitely going to ctb. Just trying to get some things in order first
 
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Namelesa

Namelesa

Trapped in this Suffering
Sep 21, 2024
917
If my family were to feel such pain to kill themselves then I wouldn't care cus they caused this onto themselves. I want them to suffer from my ctb to punish them for creating and trapping me here.
 
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cme-dme

cme-dme

Ready to go to bed
Feb 1, 2025
300
I don't know if I have it in me to ever do that. I was raised by a good family. My mom is already struggling in her daily life. My death would devastate her. I have 2 younger sisters who would also be devastated. I don't know how my step-dad would feel. I don't think he would care so much. My biological dad isn't a bad guy surprisingly. I think he would feel incredibly guilty and probably blame himself to some extent (I was abandoned at birth by him).
My grandmother and grandfather are already gone as well as my great grandparents. There's not much family left. As much as I want to deny it, my death would hurt a lot of people. I haven't even talked about how my friends would feel yet. I feel like the only time I would be able to comfortably kill myself is when my sisters are grown up and can take care of my mom but that's about a decade away.
 
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zwiebel

Member
Dec 11, 2024
10
I am the person who will probably die by suicide because someone close to me did it.

For me my little sister was my primary reason not to entertain suicide thoughts cause it was always bringing me to tears imagining her at my funeral and how it would disrupt her life if I died.
Unfortunately my sister died by suicide last year in February, soon will be the one year mark. I have no joy in anything anymore. My hobbies and interests I shared with her feel empty now. I can't forgive myself for not having been able to help her when she was suffering. It's unforgivable. Her death has showed me how meaningless this life is.

Since then I can't bring myself to care what this will do to my friends and family. I know it seems cruel. Our lives are already messed up now. At least my family's. Will one death more really make it so much worse?

My friends all tell me I will find hope in life again with time and healing and so on but it's not possible for me, I hate myself for not having been able to help my sister and I miss her and the life I had when she was alive too much. My friends all have siblings. They will be fine when I die I am sure. Sure they care about me but it's not close to the pain I am in because of my sister's death. Most of my friends have known me for 3ish years. I don't think any of them will kill themselves over me.

I do feel bad for my girlfriend. My girlfriend is suicidal herself already and working on getting better.

At least I am trying to make it easy. I will sell my belongings first so my parents don't have to clean out like we did with my sister's. I will make preparations for the funeral. And write goodbye letters which my sister didn't. Everyone will know I did it because I can't cope with losing my sister so hopefully that way there will be less despair and guessing why this happened.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
40,588
Everybody will die someday, that's inevitable, there's no escaping that, I'd personally always prefer to die on my own terms than suffer in this torturous existence that was so tragically imposed, I never would have wished for or chosen any of this. To me what is cruel is how humans are expected to suffer no matter what even know existing is just waiting to die, the thought of being conscious in this existence for much longer just to die in agony from old age is unbearable to me, existence itself is the true problem to me and it's a problem I only wish and hope for permanent peace from.
 
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Shadows From Hell

Shadows From Hell

The one who has lost a lot, fears nothing.
Oct 21, 2024
258
I love my mother to death, and seeing the struggles she goes through at age 81, but I don't think I can wait since I don't know how much time she has left. If she lives to be 100, that would put me at age 75. And seeing what she has to deal with, I don't want to potentially fall into the same dilemma.


The rest of the family can kiss my ass.
 
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outrider567

Visionary
Apr 5, 2022
2,701
Yes, of course I would still CTB--There is no way to predict whether anyone will CTB or not
 
before20

before20

I can't turn this thing off, it keeps following me
Jan 28, 2025
80
I am the person who will probably die by suicide because someone close to me did it.
In a roundabout way, I'm in the same boat. I first attempted suicide after my friend killed himself when we were eleven; even if it's a lot later, I guess I'm just finishing that job.

I'm really sorry for the loss of your sister. I hope you can see her again one day.
 
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