Venting Would you prefer not existing over any kind of existence?

[FuneralCry]

I know that I would, no matter what. I see not existing, being completely unaware of everything for all eternity as being completely ideal, as in non-existence everything is forgotten about with this existence not even being a distant memory, it comforts me the thought of being unable to suffer, as if one no longer exists they have no more worries or concerns, and they don't have to deal with the useless burden that is existence, they don't have to endure a futile process of slowly dying where they are destined to decay from age and suffer a great deal in the process.

To me existence could never be worth enduring and it's just not a desirable state, existence is a tragic mistake disturbing the state of perfect non-existence. To be conscious and aware is tiring and to be trapped in the flesh prison that is the human body certainly is unnecessary and burdensome, I don't see any value to being burdened with existence, it doesn't appeal to me and I find it horrifying how life even evolved.

There is too much suffering in existing which is why to me it's always preferable to not exist, existence is so nightmarish to me, it's completely unappealing and I think it's completely absurd to wish to delay the inevitable. To die solves the true problem which is existence itself and without existence one has no problems. In existence there is unlimited potential for harm, but yet nobody can be harmed by not existing, so of course to cease existing would be ideal and I've always found comfort in the thought of being permanently gone from this horrific world especially as there is unlimited potential to suffer as long as one exists here.

 

[Kerrtu]

Quite simply, yes. I would prefer not to have existed at all.

 

[MusicEnjoyer:D]

I would like existing in this world if I had the capacity to be happy with the circumstances that surround me.

There is infinite potential for suffering in life, but also for happines. Sadly, I bend way more torwards the suffering side, but thats not the case for everyone.

 

[agonysgrin]

Very beautiful way of putting it. Yeah to me nature is a horror within itself, I can't imagine anything particularly loving I mean truly loving ever existing. From what I've seen altruism isn't the way most ppl are wired

 

[CentreMid]

I know that I would, no matter what. I see not existing, being completely unaware of everything for all eternity as being completely ideal, as in non-existence everything is forgotten about with this existence not even being a distant memory, it comforts me the thought of being unable to suffer, as if one no longer exists they have no more worries or concerns, and they don't have to deal with the useless burden that is existence, they don't have to endure a futile process of slowly dying where they are destined to decay from age and suffer a great deal in the process.

To me existence could never be worth enduring and it's just not a desirable state, existence is a tragic mistake disturbing the state of perfect non-existence. To be conscious and aware is tiring and to be trapped in the flesh prison that is the human body certainly is unnecessary and burdensome, I don't see any value to being burdened with existence, it doesn't appeal to me and I find it horrifying how life even evolved.

There is too much suffering in existing which is why to me it's always preferable to not exist, existence is so nightmarish to me, it's completely unappealing and I think it's completely absurd to wish to delay the inevitable. To die solves the true problem which is existence itself and without existence one has no problems. In existence there is unlimited potential for harm, but yet nobody can be harmed by not existing, so of course to cease existing would be ideal and I've always found comfort in the thought of being permanently gone from this horrific world especially as there is unlimited potential to suffer as long as one exists here.

I agree. Existence of any kind for me isn't worth it.

 

[agonysgrin]

Also it's so wierd to me how most ppl cling to this life, I've seen ppl cruel ppl age and the only time they said one thing of good to me is before they died...I say let go of all this materialistic BS and the distractions. Once you've let go and had a lot of introspection you can be better for it before you torment ppl for most of your life and then be sorry when it's time dude just be sorry now

 

[tiredofbreathing]

I think existing can be good for some people. It used to be good for me until I got health issues. It really depends on the person

 

[absolomonisgone]

I know that I would, no matter what. I see not existing, being completely unaware of everything for all eternity as being completely ideal, as in non-existence everything is forgotten about with this existence not even being a distant memory, it comforts me the thought of being unable to suffer, as if one no longer exists they have no more worries or concerns, and they don't have to deal with the useless burden that is existence, they don't have to endure a futile process of slowly dying where they are destined to decay from age and suffer a great deal in the process.

To me existence could never be worth enduring and it's just not a desirable state, existence is a tragic mistake disturbing the state of perfect non-existence. To be conscious and aware is tiring and to be trapped in the flesh prison that is the human body certainly is unnecessary and burdensome, I don't see any value to being burdened with existence, it doesn't appeal to me and I find it horrifying how life even evolved.

There is too much suffering in existing which is why to me it's always preferable to not exist, existence is so nightmarish to me, it's completely unappealing and I think it's completely absurd to wish to delay the inevitable. To die solves the true problem which is existence itself and without existence one has no problems. In existence there is unlimited potential for harm, but yet nobody can be harmed by not existing, so of course to cease existing would be ideal and I've always found comfort in the thought of being permanently gone from this horrific world especially as there is unlimited potential to suffer as long as one exists here.

i would still have found existing better than non existence. otherwise how would we ever get to know non existing or existing was this bad? when all is said and done, there is still something fun about existence/consciousness....., if nothing good at all, at least we get to complain, hate it and eventually kill ourselves. inasmuch as existence gave us a bad deal..., mmh, compared to what? ...it's the first principle on which all our everything is tied on. otherwise, we'd never have had this wonderful opportunity to hate our existence and want to kill ourselves......., don't know if it makes sense. hopefully it does.

 

[GreenTree]

Life can be beautiful. We're just the unlucky ones who been given fucked up minds.

 

[crimsonpool]

very much, the few nice things ive had were not worth the suffering and existing is inherently terrifying even if everyone likes to pretend it isn't

 

[Gonnerr]

No life is worth it , i would not live the life of anybody even the most lucky person in all mankind history. Everybody has their issues and suffer.

I would not want to be any animals either.

Better never to have been.

 

[EndJstifiesTheMeans]

this

Quite simply, yes. I would prefer not to have existed at all.

 

[absolomonisgone]

Life can be beautiful. We're just the unlucky ones who been given fucked up minds.

not fucked up. we refused to accept what culture/society gave us to make life endurable. we refused the society's myths, narratives, make believe, etc and instead we focussed on the ultimate truth of all existence: death. in that fixation, we missed it all. we lost the drive to heroism. .., read denial of death. guy writes a lot about heroism/narcissism. we saw the myth, narrative, etc of the project of the denial of death...., and so, here we are.

 

[starlightsun]

You say it so well, @FuneralCry. I completely agree.

Nature disturbs me too, you either consume or be consumed in order to live. Programmed with a strong underlying urge to survive and procreate, and for what? To bring more sentient beings into the world so they can continue the hardship of existence.

Sometimes I think, if I could create a paradise where all live in harmony, would that be preferable to non-existence? Then I think, who am I to choose what is or what isn't part of this 'paradise'? Would it be equally a trap, being perfectly happy all the time? Boredom? Need some degree of suffering to make us appreciate joy? How much suffering is acceptable? Etc, etc

And eventually I arrive back to the conclusion that yes, non-existence would be best.

 

[scamper]

I personally think it's possible to exist and have the best parts of your existence be worth enduring the suffering, but an existence like that is not within my reach, and I imagine it's out of reach for many others

 

[Praestat_Mori]

If i never existed at all I would not have to suffer so much now. I wouldn't mind existing if there wasn't so much suffering now.
But since years it is unbearable and there seems to be no way out of this which causes even more suffering, making me wish to have never existed. It'd be so easy.

 

[Vizzy]

I know that I would, no matter what. I see not existing, being completely unaware of everything for all eternity as being completely ideal, as in non-existence everything is forgotten about with this existence not even being a distant memory, it comforts me the thought of being unable to suffer, as if one no longer exists they have no more worries or concerns, and they don't have to deal with the useless burden that is existence, they don't have to endure a futile process of slowly dying where they are destined to decay from age and suffer a great deal in the process.

To me existence could never be worth enduring and it's just not a desirable state, existence is a tragic mistake disturbing the state of perfect non-existence. To be conscious and aware is tiring and to be trapped in the flesh prison that is the human body certainly is unnecessary and burdensome, I don't see any value to being burdened with existence, it doesn't appeal to me and I find it horrifying how life even evolved.

There is too much suffering in existing which is why to me it's always preferable to not exist, existence is so nightmarish to me, it's completely unappealing and I think it's completely absurd to wish to delay the inevitable. To die solves the true problem which is existence itself and without existence one has no problems. In existence there is unlimited potential for harm, but yet nobody can be harmed by not existing, so of course to cease existing would be ideal and I've always found comfort in the thought of being permanently gone from this horrific world especially as there is unlimited potential to suffer as long as one exists here.

I like to exist in this world but I want to be someone like Michael Jordan, who is successful, fame and got everything in life

From my childhood, I just don't want normal life, I even questioned my parents why you guys not filthy rich because they didn't make me a good platform to build on it as I have to start everything from scratch

I just don't like average thinking in human beings, I am tired of hearing from my parents and other people to be happy with what I have and you will get everything slowly as times goes but what I am gonna do with success and money after I become old, I can't do nothing

I just hate average life working 9-5 for average pay, home, life for what nothing, you don't enjoy anything in life being average, I will kill myself than living a average life

I blame my parents especially my dad, who is not a real man and I will label him as a man with no backbone and he is literally a girl as I can't call him a man because he have no guts, didn't do anything in life to give me a good life But he had a lot of time and energy to abuse my mom and me (I mean both mentally and physically)

Next I hate my mom, I will say she was a good mom but she stayed with my dad all these years taking all the abuse, I said to her to divorce him but she just afraid to do it, I would say she is not afraid of my dad but afraid of who will take care of her and that put a lot of pressure on me to stay with my dad, abuse towards me are mostly physical, as I grow up they started to expect a lot of things from me then I got a girlfriend she started to expect a lot of things from me, finally my girlfriend and parents joined together and their expectations went crazy, I just can't do it anymore

Everyone in my life just expect something from me which makes my life meaningless!

 

[not-2-b-the-answer]

Non-existent all the way!!!!

 

[EternalDaydreaming]

IMO no, I'm religious so I view heaven as an existence that is so great and so good that I desperately want to be there. I want to see my friends there and although this world is cold and cruel I believe heaven will be the ease of all my worldly sufferings.

 

[InSearchOfLess]

Quite certainly, existence is forced upon me and while filled with moments that one may say is good or may even say is something they would consider to be a core memory or " the best moment of ones life " I can't help but feel that everything is simply ephemeral and not worth enduring the trials, struggles and afflictions that come with existence.

 

[TAW122]

I prefer non-existence over any existence because with existence comes suffering, strife, struggle, and all other unwanted states of sentience. Also, I don't wish to be immortal, that would be eternal torture...

 

[Deleted User#81194]

Honestly, the happiest I ever was in my life was when I was a kid (under 12). At that time I was just less aware of things and didn't really have to worry about anything, but as soon as middle school started my life went to shit.

Becoming aware of myself (and other people) made me self conscious and depressed. I wish there was a way to manipulate my memories, it's not existence itself so much that makes me miserable but my current conscious self with the experience of those tragic moments in my life that's shaped to who I am today.

 

[Passersby]

It's hard to accurately decide on not existing coming from the perspective of someone who is already existing. I guess sometimes in a perfect world that doesn't exist I would prefer existing ( this is coming from the perspective of someone who already exists ) in a great life for a while at least and then go to non existence perhaps at around the age of 50. However no matter how good life is, it will always come with suffering, pointless tasks, school, survival, work, etc, and let's not forget to mention this is all forced on us regardless of how it came about. To be born into a fortune with everything being perfect and at your fingertips would be ideal but even the best moments and experiences are gone in the blink of an eye so the case could be made either way. It's probably best for humans to have never even existed in the first place then we wouldn't be on this forum debating it right now.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Yeah, definitely. Life hasn't been all bad for me but even then- the bad has been bad enough to make the experience unwanted.

I love being asleep because that's the closest I get to not being here. I wonder what it would be like to live but not be fully sentient. Maybe that would be better. Although- again- as the world is designed- where survival isn't easy- perhaps that would be just as bad- or worse.

Existence in this world- or, any other based on similar rules seems like too much of a gamble to me- which is the main reason I'm an anti-natilist.

I actually feel real resentment at the fact that I exist. It just feels like a whole series of problems that I'm obliged to deal with. The biggest problem is trying to deal with the fact that I don't want to exist anymore. It really angers me that we're all likely to have to go through fear and pain to end lives that have also been made up of pain. I don't want to inflict pain and distress on myself in order to end this. I don't want to go on and on with life either- I have no intention of trying to make things 'better' for myself. I don't want to inflict loss on others either. That's not my wish at all. Again- it just angers me that we're all just stuck with all these problems- where there actually isn't a good outcome in any direction. In whatever direction you go- someone suffers. That's so messed up.

 

[Dead Ghost]

I keep thinking what would happen if in reality, after we die, we find out that I only lived the life we chose before we were born.
I am disturbed by this series of thoughts, it is clear to me that in a deterministic world existence and death do not depend on us at all, but then what does it depend on... is the great enigma!

I'm tired, the only truth I know is that we live in a deterministic universe, missing the "why?" and it exhausts me a lot.

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Continuo pensant que passaría si en realitat, després de morts, descobrissim que només em viscut la vida que hem triat abans de néixer.
Em pertorben aquesta serie de pensaments, tinc clar que en un món determinista l'existència i la mort no depén en absolut de nosaltres, però llavors de que depén.. és el gran enigma!

Estic cansat, l'única veritat que cónec es que vivim en un univers determinista, falta el "per què?" i m'esgota molt.

 

[ghost44]

I would prefer not existing. The suffering doesn't end. It's a useless "fight", a losing battle.

 

[g56f32Z4n8#uExEuU*@]

I can imagine bifurcations in my history where I could have taken a path to a life I could have accepted, not necessarily being happy but not suicidal either. That's not where I am now. With age, the possibility that your remaining life can repay you for the suffering sustained up to that point becomes more and more unlikely, too.

I like to think to the good life of others. I just wish there was an easy way to quit your own. Can you imagine what a dream world it would be where people helped and supported you CTB-ing?

 

[telro]

Yes, I absolutely would prefer nonexistence. In fact, this has been my biggest wish since I was a kid

Oh and @MusicEnjoyer:D awesome pfp btw, love that album

 

[Rob1984]

Sometimes I wish I didn't exist, usually in times of extreme pain or despair. But there are also times were I am happy to be alive. I have some really special memories that I cherish and am grateful for. If my existence stopped today, and I could evaluate my entire life up until this point, I think I would have preferred to not exist all together. As of now, I see my net worth of existence to be overall negative. But considering I don't know what my future holds, it's tough to give a definitive answer as to whether I prefer to exist or not exist. I don't believe in fatalism, so I believe my future is somewhat in my control (not entirely though). If I can pull things together, then maybe the net worth of my existence will shift to the positive side, meaning I will have preferred to exist. If for every two happy moments I have one bad moment, I would still prefer that over having no happy moments.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

I wish I could experience what it's like to exist as something I didn't despise.