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Saponification

Saponification

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Jun 27, 2024
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Would you prefer:

A - A short existence, albeit one with a somewhat high level of suffering, relative to your tolerance to suffering.
B - A longer existence, with a low to moderate level of suffering.

Assuming you don't get to die at any time of your own volition, of course.

Personally I'd pick B, consideirng I've a pretty low tolerance to suffering. Though sometimes I do wish for more hardships since I have this idea that it might make my shitty life a little more meaningful.
 
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Namelesa

Namelesa

Trapped in this Suffering
Sep 21, 2024
987
Probably B. I can't deal with the high amount of suffering I can experience now even with the good bits inbetween it. I would deal with the less amount of suffering but a long life as I would be suffering less and maybe be more effective at doing what I want to do in life and so provide more to others while still suffering the same amount, only just more spread out.
 
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ma0

How did I get here?
Dec 20, 2024
383
I'd say B, although dying naturally would be quite painful, as long as I have people by my side, which I sadly don't at the moment.

One thing that deeply terrified me though is dementia. However, I'm hoping new developments on that will arise soon.

At the moment though, it looks like my life is taking a sharp turn towards A :P
 
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SchrodingerIsDed

SchrodingerIsDed

Strength fades; Trust Shatters in Shadows of Fear.
Feb 17, 2025
205
Would you prefer:

A - A short existence, albeit one with a somewhat high level of suffering, relative to your tolerance to suffering.
B - A longer existence, with a low to moderate level of suffering.

Assuming you don't get to die at any time of your own volition, of course.

Personally I'd pick B, consideirng I've a pretty low tolerance to suffering. Though sometimes I do wish for more hardships since I have this idea that it might make my shitty life a little more meaningful.
I would prefer A - A short existence with a somewhat high level of suffering. I always wanted to leave a good looking corpse. Not all old and wrinkled and slowly breaking down. We're all going to Hell, might as well go out in style.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
3,014
It's possible to fall into a trap of very long lasting constant unbearable pain or extreme suffering . that's what i fear the most even a few seconds of unbearable pain . there is such a thing as "unbearable pain" because it means almost no one can bear it for even a second more. the extreme horror is that one can fall into a trap where you can't stop the pain move away form the unbearable constant pain. they made all guaranteed suicide methods into crimes so that everyone is in danger of falling into a trap of unending constant unbearable pain with no way to escape that excruciating pain or extreme suffering nor extreme torture. they are the ultimate evil for making someone helping you with suicide to escape such torture a crime .

there is pain so bad a 1 minute of it makes everything else meaningless . i want to avoid such pain

i don't prefer any kind of existence but i hate pain and suffering the most . i don't want a second of excruciating ultra intense pain much less minutes , hours , days or years which is possible in this hell called life.

i just want to escape this nightmare . if others want to take such risks it's their business i don't .

i don't see anything in this evil meaningless life worth even 1 minute of the worst pain,.
 
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SchrodingerIsDed

Strength fades; Trust Shatters in Shadows of Fear.
Feb 17, 2025
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It's possible to fall into a trap of very long lasting constant unbearable pain or extreme suffering . that's what i fear the most even a few seconds of unbearable pain . there is such a thing as "unbearable pain" because it means almost no one can bear it for even a second more. the extreme horror is that one can fall into a trap where you can't stop the pain move away form the unbearable constant pain. they made all guaranteed suicide methods into crimes so that everyone is in danger of falling into a trap of unending constant unbearable pain with no way to escape that excruciating pain or extreme suffering nor extreme torture. they are the ultimate evil for making someone helping you with suicide to escape such torture a crime .

there is pain so bad a 1 minute of it makes everything else meaningless . i want to avoid such pain
I can take the pain. Even the unbearable pain. What gets me the most is the fear. In military interrogations, they often use simply the threat of torture. Constantly hanging it over your head. They never even have to do anything, because anything they could do, your imagination can do worse.

I totally vibe with that last sentence of yours. In one of my attempts, I used deadly nightshade. Would not recommend. Fear that transcended fear to become something else entirely. Terror more full than trepidation, so all-encompassing that it consumed me and I, myself, became fear. Nothing but fear. No identity. No ego. Just screams. It was exactly as you say. Everything else disappeared.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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I can take the pain. Even the unbearable pain. What gets me the most is the fear. In military interrogations, they often use simply the threat of torture. Constantly hanging it over your head. They never even have to do anything, because anything they could do, your imagination can do worse.

I totally vibe with that last sentence of yours. In one of my attempts, I used deadly nightshade. Would not recommend. Fear that transcended fear to become something else entirely. Terror more full than trepidation, so all-encompassing that it consumed me and I, myself, became fear. Nothing but fear. No identity. No ego. Just screams. It was exactly as you say. Everything else disappeared.
what were you fearing pain or Death or something else ?

there are so many different kinds of suffering not only unbearable physical pain , most people could fall into some trap that is utter unending hell to them in this evil life . what were you fearing ?

yes there is pain so bad 1 minute of it makes everything else meaningless. everything else dissapears, then you realize those pleasure addictions didn't matter when you are in the throes of the worst hell.

i've been through fear of unbearable pain and extreme suffering and all i could think of was why didn't i kill myself when i had the chance no way did any of the stupid meaningless pleasure addictions like youtube social media news eating food etc matter then
 
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SchrodingerIsDed

Strength fades; Trust Shatters in Shadows of Fear.
Feb 17, 2025
205
what were you fearing pain or Death or something else ?
Nothing at all. It was only fear. It was directed in all directions. No. It didn't even have a direction. It simply was all that existed in my world. I did fear death when it first hit me, though, as I crawled to my parents and told them what happened, though, barely, before the real fear hit. I panicked when it hit. I'd taken a lot of sleeping pills too, and they did all of nothing. :ehh: Definitely do not recommend nightshade. It was PTSD inducing.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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Yeah, B the same. It's maybe what a lot of us are going through or, have been through already. I wouldn't fancy things being worse. Even if it was for a shorter time, it wouldn't exactly reduce the amount of pain at the time.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
40,706
None, I just don't want to exist at all and I never would do, I'd always prefer to not exist than suffer in this torturous, futile existence but only never existing is true perfection for me, I see it a deeply undesirable to exist and as well as that I just find existing so unnecessary, it's just suffering all for the sake of it. To me existence itself really is the true problem and simply just existing is enough to make me wish for death, only non-existence is positive for me, I see it as an abomination to exist, I'll always find it so dreadful to be burdened with this existence capable of suffering to unlimited extents just hoping and waiting to not exist anyway.
 
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davidtorez

Mage
Mar 8, 2024
568
None, I just don't want to exist at all and I never would do, I'd always prefer to not exist than suffer in this torturous, futile existence but only never existing is true perfection for me, I see it a deeply undesirable to exist and as well as that I just find existing so unnecessary, it's just suffering all for the sake of it. To me existence itself really is the true problem and simply just existing is enough to make me wish for death, only non-existence is positive for me, I see it as an abomination to exist, I'll always find it so dreadful to be burdened with this existence capable of suffering to unlimited extents just hoping and waiting to not exist anyway.
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Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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if i had any say in the matter it would be neither just nothingness
 
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Eudaimonic

Eudaimonic

I want to fade away.
Aug 11, 2023
802
what were you fearing pain or Death or something else ?

there are so many different kinds of suffering not only unbearable physical pain , most people could fall into some trap that is utter unending hell to them in this evil life . what were you fearing ?

yes there is pain so bad 1 minute of it makes everything else meaningless. everything else dissapears, then you realize those pleasure addictions didn't matter when you are in the throes of the worst hell.

i've been through fear of unbearable pain and extreme suffering and all i could think of was why didn't i kill myself when i had the chance no way did any of the stupid meaningless pleasure addictions like youtube social media news eating food etc matter then
I agree with this. It's why I subscribe to lexical negative utilitarianism
 
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-nobodyknows-

I will face my fate.
Jun 16, 2024
610
I don't know. I want a life that brings me meaning.
 
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killthyself

Member
Feb 23, 2025
10
Would you prefer:

A - A short existence, albeit one with a somewhat high level of suffering, relative to your tolerance to suffering.
B - A longer existence, with a low to moderate level of suffering.

Assuming you don't get to die at any time of your own volition, of course.

Personally I'd pick B, consideirng I've a pretty low tolerance to suffering. Though sometimes I do wish for more hardships since I have this idea that it might make my shitty life a little more meaningful.
B also for me. Hurt is the reason why we are all here