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steppingoff

steppingoff

Experienced
Jan 18, 2024
212
If there were no legal consequences, would you like someone to coax you to get past, lets SI?

I'd like that, even if it was nearly impossible to find someone you can trust. It would be like choosing to have a death therapist to talk you through the steps.
 
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anhedonya

anhedonya

Use common sense!
Apr 14, 2024
159
I'm worried about you. You've made a similar post like this lately. I really hope that life treats you more gently someday. I'm sorry for whatever happened that has led you to this point.

To answer, no. I cannot do that for another person as it would feel like I was encouraging them into CTB and therefore cannot expect anyone to do it for me, as it would hold the same moral issue for me.
 
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Aprilfarewell4

Specialist
Apr 9, 2024
349
I don't need anyone to encourage me, but I would rather people did that then trying to discourage me. being invalidated when you need to commit suicide, to be made to feel like you somehow failed or you should just try harder, is surreal and agonizing. alienating. Despair.
 
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EyesOfNight

EyesOfNight

the night will be eternal
Feb 2, 2024
371
The talking through steps can be done on this site although not in real time.

I doubt that a person trying to do something like this would work on me. I also would like to make the decision myself without any influence.
However, if someone offered to choke me to death with a rear naked chokehold I wouldn't say no.
 
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wCvML2

Member
Nov 15, 2021
254
No, because I'm demand avoidant so it would do me the opposite affect like in reverse psychology. I would rather be left alone and wait until I'm really ready, even if it takes years or never happens.
 
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Abyssal

Abyssal

Kill me
Nov 26, 2023
1,254
Nah that'd confirm how horrible I truly am. Let me live in denial in my final moments please
 
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Dusk till dawn

Dusk till dawn

Student
Sep 7, 2018
145
Yes, i do leave messages for myself for the future to remind myself i failed at life and i should've died early, having someone trustable talk with me and remind me of how i'm just a miserable useless outcast would really help me and make me more active in attempting to take my life
 
lament.

lament.

the Immortal
Jun 28, 2023
157
No, I think it would just make me annoyed at the person tbh, but at the same time I would also be annoyed if someone tried to discourage me. My choice is my own to make.
 
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Guy Smiley

Guy Smiley

Just another lost soul
Jan 4, 2024
459
There's an entire billion-dollar industry of "life coaches". I don't see why there shouldn't be death coaches.
 
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SilverFog

SilverFog

Walking red flag
Mar 28, 2024
9
I wish someone would encourage me to do anything lol. But if I end up offing myself it's gonna be mainly out of spite, and to end life's pain.
 
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Ephemeron

human trash
Dec 17, 2023
197
People have already told me to kill myself countless times in life. There were no legal consequences.
 
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Ash

Ash

Enlightened
Oct 4, 2021
1,210
Yes, but if I step back, the moral and ethical aspects of that are pretty disturbing.
 
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rozeske

Maybe I am the problem
Dec 2, 2023
2,928
No, it wouldn't make a difference anyway except for the psychological impact on the encourager. I am stubborn enough that people's words don't matter in my decision making process, especially for something as big of a deal as killing myself. I have been told to kill myself, how it would be better if i had just died, why I keep living my purposeless life, why I didn't just kill myself yet.......none of it mattered until I believed I need to catch the bus and made a decision.

IMO, If one needs an encouragement for ctb and can't go through it with out one, there may be an underlying issue with their decision.
 
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psp3000

Enlightened
May 20, 2023
1,273
no,

I think as I got worse mentally I already felt like people were encouraging me

because I eventually saw the patterns and coincidences in everything

and started to believe that there are people waiting for me to die and people who will take/find joy and entertainment in my death

so partially yes but only from specific people,

because I know and believe that they would like to encourage me to die
but they won't do it because it would either affect them negatively (apparently) or they would be seen as a bad person or have a ruined reputation if they are caught doing it or found out
 
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brokeandbroken

Elementalist
Apr 18, 2023
802
If there were no legal consequences, would you like someone to coax you to get past, lets SI?

I'd like that, even if it was nearly impossible to find someone you can trust. It would be like choosing to have a death therapist to talk you through the steps.
I've said before and will say it again. I think there should be a program that allows for euthanasia but you have to enter the program. Where for a year people will work on whatever issues you entered with. After a year of people pouring into you, you would be allowed to euthanize if you wanted.
 
xinino

xinino

Anti humanist
Mar 31, 2024
399
No, it wouldn't make a difference anyway except for the psychological impact on the encourager. I am stubborn enough that people's words don't matter in my decision making process, especially for something as big of a deal as killing myself. I have been told to kill myself, how it would be better if i had just died, why I keep living my purposeless life, why I didn't just kill myself yet.......none of it mattered until I believed I need to catch the bus and made a decision.

IMO, If one needs an encouragement for ctb and can't go through it with out one, there may be an underlying issue with their decision.
I think people just need emotional support, if they figure out how to tame their feeling it will be easier to CTB. I watched two japanese girls holding hand and throwing themselves from building, it was very emotional ngl.

Decisions is not that important because I think objectively that there aren't superiority between death and life.
 
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UKscotty

Doesn't read PMs
May 20, 2021
2,285
No, I would prefer someone recover and get well. Telling and encouraging someone to CTB is evil.
 
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xinino

xinino

Anti humanist
Mar 31, 2024
399
Certainly, I would like to be encouraged especially from someone I love.
 
ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
3,305
Nah, I can't really be encouraged. My mind is already set in stone about death regardless of what people say to me. It wouldn't make a difference as to what these people would say
 
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QueerMelancholy

QueerMelancholy

Arcanist
Jul 29, 2023
434
I mean if a "trained" professional is already there talking me through it they might as well be the one to administer the drugs. Right?

I may be misunderstanding your question or overthinking it though.
 
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Praestat_Mori

Mori praestat, quam haec pati!
May 21, 2023
9,474
Anyone who relies on encouragement to CTB, is not really ready to leave. However encouragement can also be sth like staying with someone in their last hours until they pass away - I assume most of us would want to die alone. This kind of encouragement is more like support rather than pushing some into suicide by encouraging them - this is an unacceptable.
 
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AnonymousL

AnonymousL

Specialist
Apr 5, 2023
367
I will ctb no matter if I have someone to encourage me or not. But it would be nice to have someone by my side when I do it for comfort. It devestates me that I will be alone when I ctb.. I wish there was someone to hold me and say it will all be okay. That I'm doing the right thing.
 
crystal_meth97

crystal_meth97

Nie mam zamiaru się poddać
May 1, 2024
155
No. I don't find this ethical in any way. I don't want it done to myself, I wouldn't do it to another person. I believe suicide is something very personal and intimate and one shouldn't involve other people emotionally in that decision. When the time comes, I'll do it on my own terms, no encouragement needed.
 
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myopia

myopia

on earth, we’re briefly gorgeous.
Apr 8, 2024
60
Yes, definitely. All the people talking about morals and ethics in this thread are much better than me. I just want someone to tell me that it's okay to CTB, it's the right decision for me, and I don't have to feel guilty about it. (Of course, I would never expect/ask for that on SaSu because of policy, I'm just talking hypothetically)
 
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Forveleth

I knew I forgot to do something when I was 15...
Mar 26, 2024
758
ctb is literally the most consequential decision you could ever make and as such, I believe that you and you alone should be the one to make that decision 100% by yourself. As others have said, if you need encouragement from someone else, then you're not ready to make such an important decision.

Edit: In my life, I have gone from being anti-suicide to putting it off from fear of death, to being very accepting that this is what I want to do. With this shift in attitude, there comes a certain acceptance in mental state that I think you need in order to have the particular clarity that is required to end your life.
 
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unabletocope

I'd like to shut down
Mar 13, 2024
664
I don't need anyone to encourage me, the way my life has gone wrong is encourage. Pro choice is the worst kind of trap, nothing has anything to do with anyone other than the person making the choice and that leaves anyone else to say its nothing to do with them, time to die.
 

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