If they were paying the €10,000 fee, then yes I would feel better.
Crowdfunding? What crowd would want to pay that much to have me killed?
C_F
Experienced
- Jul 31, 2019
- 242
NitriteAnatomy
Lost. Alone. Trapped. Need escape.
- Nov 21, 2019
- 450
This is an oddly specific hypothetical.....
Perhaps you could go out of your way to p*ss people off, then send them a link.....
justwhy?
Student
- Sep 27, 2019
- 151
Hmmm.... Much of the general public in Protestant dominated countries hate those who don't work (for reasons of poor mental health) and survive off social security, considering them parasites. So perhaps there is an opening there...
These are good ideas, but I think a suicide campaign would get reported and shut down very quickly. Anyone know of a crowdfunding site that doesn't care what you're raising the money for?
I know some people would be happy to pay for me. They would even give me money for the plane, hotel and small expenses.
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lostangel
Enlightened
- Mar 22, 2019
- 1,051
an empathetic crowdSorry, this kinda made me laugh.
Cleverly disguised as "money for recovery", which might even happen if you travel with the right person. The tangled webs we weave...
Grandexit
Experienced
- Dec 4, 2019
- 200
In the States, (as awful as this is) you can elect to have perfectly healthy animals euthanized at any time. Just a few phone calls, paperwork and vet bills. Meanwhile, we live in a society that only preaches forced life, but does nothing to help those suffering. If I could walk myself into a veterinarian's office and give them my money and sign some waiver, I would be driving to them now.
I will put the cherry on top and offer myself up as consumable food to those who think there is too much CO2 in the atmosphere to raise animals for meat.
They say on the website they will help if you cannot afford it.
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Their website also says: "Pegasos does not accept young people with depression or other severe mental illness. Rather, Pegasos will refer such applications to counselling services such as those published on the Pegasos website."
It's unclear what age they consider "young".
One or two people need to complain to them.
I just sent them an email to ask what they think is"young" will keep everyone posted.
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mathieu
Enlightened
- Jun 5, 2019
- 1,090
I wouldn't feel that much better because even if someone would pay the fee and support me to go through the process there are still doctors to convince and it's gonna take time to jump through the loopholes. I want to die right now. My poison will come in the mail long before I could access euthanasia in Switzerland even though it would be great to get the best drugs and be able to say a final goodbye to family.
sleepy dog
Wizard
- Sep 13, 2019
- 624
You will be surprised, but there are fundraisers for this. Click the link below.
GoFundMe - searched for Dignitas
GoFundMe - searched for Dignitas
Just reading their (Pegasos) blurb, I somehow doubt it'd simply be a matter of fronting up with the cash for a young, 'well' person - however you determine young. Reading between the lines of this....
Pegasos FAQ
Does Pegasos help 'well' people to die?
Pegasos believes that for a person to be in the headspace of considering ending their lives, their quality of life must be qualitatively poor. Pegasos accepts that some people who are not technically 'sick' may want to apply for a VAD. But this does not mean the person is 'well'. Professor David Goodall was one of these people. He was not sick but his eye sight was failing him, as was his mobility. Old age is rarely kind. The decision to end one's life is an intensely personal one. Pegasos makes every effort to understand fully the unique circumstances of everyone who makes contact with us.
(My bold)
Their emphasis (and I understand it) is to help the elderly and/or infirm. I somehow doubt that they would assist in the death of any other person. Huge shame imho, as I would put that sum together for a peaceful, legal exit.
Pegasos FAQ
Does Pegasos help 'well' people to die?
Pegasos believes that for a person to be in the headspace of considering ending their lives, their quality of life must be qualitatively poor. Pegasos accepts that some people who are not technically 'sick' may want to apply for a VAD. But this does not mean the person is 'well'. Professor David Goodall was one of these people. He was not sick but his eye sight was failing him, as was his mobility. Old age is rarely kind. The decision to end one's life is an intensely personal one. Pegasos makes every effort to understand fully the unique circumstances of everyone who makes contact with us.
(My bold)
Their emphasis (and I understand it) is to help the elderly and/or infirm. I somehow doubt that they would assist in the death of any other person. Huge shame imho, as I would put that sum together for a peaceful, legal exit.
It looks like even people with long term depression won't necessarily be assisted. I've suffered from various mental illnesses for about 35 years, and they're going to tell me about 'counselling services'? They talk about 'working with you to achieve the best outcome'. How fucking condescending is that? I think I know what I want, if anyone does.
Mr2005
Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
- Sep 25, 2018
- 3,622
Of course. Just knowing you could leave at any time really would bring peace of mind. The irony is it could save lives
I would not assume to guess what they would tell you. If you have records of 35 years of mental illness, I feel you have a fantastic chance to have your application approved. https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45117163 This is the story of a 29 year old who could not get better. It is not condescending to try to achieve the best outcome. The best outcome is what we all want. Does not mean we will get it even if we deserve it... but that does not mean we are entitled to reject the possibilities.
Sorry, my sentence structure wasn't very clear. I was also referring to the counseling. I've had 35 years of counseling. Psychiatry, psychology, LCSW, various support groups, you name it.
I think the organisations have to tread a delicate line, and try to operate within what the laws will tolerate.
The organisation may wish to open its doors to more people, but doing so may risk them being shut down, so they may simply be unable to.
So it is probably the laws that are to blame, not the assisted dying organisations.....
Maybe you're right. But it shouldn't fucking matter! Who the hell is my government kidding telling me 'We won't help you, it's immoral. If you want to die, the only way you can is from a messy, protracted, painful death?' Because fuck being humane, right?
So pushing the boundaries a little bit will not hurt. If we can make an impact to change the legislation, that would help people in the future.
Your government is part of a corrupt society that does not acknowledge suffering. I am willing to put in a few hours of work every day to change this. I want, for instance, a tick box on every ballot that says, I think you are all corrupt and I will not vote for any of you. Tick.
Pushing to get legislation changed is absolutely the way to go.
The point is was making is that I don't think the assisted dying organisations themselves can do very much until the law changes, and they may be fearful of coming under close scrutiny if they rock the boat too much, which could mean some types of case that are currently being helped might no longer be able to....
But that's just my opinion, and I'm no expert, so I might be wrong....
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