Would you consider a not executed suicide due to survival instict a "failed attempt"?

[StateOfMind]

What are your thoughts on this where are the boundaries?

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I wouldn't. But a botched/interrupted attempt due to SI maybe? I've attempted partial more times than I can remember, so I call them minor attempts

 

[Silver]

Depends how close you were, I suppose. If you never left home, no. If you were on the tracks waiting for the train then probably.

in any case, glad to see you around again. How are you feeling?

 

[Regen]

I think there is no precise limit. For me it doesn't matter if it is officially considered a trial. I have been on the rails many times, but these were not all serious attempts. I alone know but when I have really tried with all my strength and tricks to overcome the SI. And this was three times. But nobody knows about these "attempts" - in short throw myself in front of a train at a speed of about 250 km/h there is also sucess or undetected withdrawl. In my opinion you can decide for yourself if you want to call it an attempt. You are not acountable to anyone on this point.

How do you feel? Are you okay? Do you feel a little better after this experience or makes no difference?

Take care of yourself and enjoy the night air.

 

[DFFP]

Not for me

 

[Ghost2211]

No.

 

[TheQ22]

Well I suppose it is a failed attempt if you set out determined to do something, then failed because of SI/nerves/stagefright/whatever, but it's subjective and everyone will have a different opinion.

Like for example if you went to a comedy club determined to get on stage and tell some jokes, but when you got there you were so frightened you couldn't do it, then you'd failed to take to the stage, even though that was your plan and the sole reason you went there.

But it's important to say that's not a bad thing or a criticism, it takes real courage to go through with something that we're hard wired to avoid at all costs, so it's not surprising that we so often back down from things that we fear, no matter how determined we were at the outset.

It's just human nature.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

I've debated this. Both of my "attempts" included doing everything in the SN regimen other than ingesting the SN. The first time I thought about my husband. The second time, I thought about my mother. The first time I was in a hotel room an hour away from home. One of my friends came with the police to get me. The second time I was at home and called in sick for the day when my husband went to work.

 

[Rn110bg101]

Personally I wouldn't call it an "attempt" until your life is actually 'in danger'. Like if you were standing on train tracks but then backed off.

But then it depends on the individual.

 

[DyingAlf]

Only you/the person attempting can know how seriously you/they intended to ctb & how far into the attempt you/they were before SI kicked in, therefore only you/they can judge whether you/they would call it an attempt or not.

But does it really matter?

If you feel like you've failed an attempt - I'm sorry - it's an awful feeling & sometimes comes with bad consequences.

If you're being judgmental about whether or not someone else failed a genuine attempt -pull your head in, it's not your place to judge.

edit: now I've seen your other thread, about the trains, I'm guessing this is about that attempt? Damn SI!!

 

[Meditation guide]

No. Don't be hard on yourself over this. Be gentle with yourself. It sounds like you might be looking
for labels to put on things.

 

[timeisnigh]

don't focus on labels

 

[AJ95]

I probably would I guess? If I was trying to kill myself but couldn't go through with it I'd probably consider that a failed attempt.

 

[PressEnterToExit]

What are your thoughts on this where are the boundaries?

I am feeling very worried about after damage if survive....... I am seriously doubting about ctb. All the methods are very disturbing.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

I am feeling very worried about after damage if survive....... I am seriously doubting about ctb. All the methods are very disturbing.

Sadly, death isn't supposed to be easy. Everything about our biology and psychology is geared toward trying to avoid it.

 

[Sad_Sack]

There has to be an attempt for there to be a failed attempt. If you don t do it becauss of SI there was no attempt.

 

[willitpass]

i don't consider my almost attempts to be attempts. they are just that: almost attempts.

 

[achromatic]

It's diffrent from failed attempt - it's an aborted one

 

[Kattt]

Countless people have failed because of this precise obstacle. It's a tough one...I mean, it's the reason the entire population exists and that we weren't wiped out at the first glimmer of human life.
People have carefully secured an exit bag, only to regain consciousness, finding the bag torn off and thrown across the room while they were completely unaware.
It's a failure in the sense that you didn't achieve what you intended to. But it's through no fault of your own.

 

[FuneralCry]

When I think of failed attempts, I see it as being when the person has like actually attempted the method, like drank the SN, or jumped or actually tried to hung themselves, not just plan to ctb and back out because of the SI kicking in before they had the chance to actually try to go through with it. Like if someone is standing at the bridge or is about to drink the SN but are unable to go through with it in both situations, I wouldn't consider that a failed attempt, rather it's just the SI prevented them from going through with it.