I've just read a post about a recent article about another SN suicide. As usual, they describe the person as 'vulnerable' and that such 'vulnerable' people are being 'targeted' online by poison sellers.
In this case, the girl was a minor so- perhaps there is some argument that she was vulnerable.
But really, this kind of language and reporting really irritates me. These people aren't being groomed from Facebook or Instragram- surely? They are seeking out ways to die because they are that desperately unhappy! I don't feel like they're being coerced into suicide. It's something they actively want and look for.
Maybe if they focussed on why that might be, they might be able to save a few more people. It just strikes me as lazy to assume a person is 'vulnerable' or weak minded and has been preyed upon by some evil poison seller or 'death cult.'
Even weirder- they'll sometimes report that the person had been suffering from depression and ideation for a long period yet their actual suicide came as a shock to everyone- like- seriously- why? Suicidal thoughts are quite a big red flag.
But hypothetically- if your suicide was reported on, would it irritate you (yes, I know it's probably not possible from beyond the grave but- the thought of it) for them to describe you as 'vulnerable' or 'targeted' or a 'victim' of some online manipulator? It would piss me off. If or when I suicide, it will be because I chose to do it. I researched my options, picked the best one and bought the stuff I needed. Simple as that. No one coerced me into it and I simply don't believe many people do get coerced into it.
Where I would perhaps agree is- someone in a very low mood is likely only to get those thoughts mirrored back somewhere like here. (I agree that it can be an echo chamber.) There isn't exactly coercion towards suicide but there isn't exactly much opposition towards it either.
That said- they (the normies and especially parents and people in authority) ought to be providing alternatives. If they are that worried about places like this and their possible negative influence, they ought to be focussing on providing something else. Safe spaces for people to be able to be open about how they feel but with effective support. If they really think they have the answers to all our problems, why aren't they providing this? So, as a secondary question- if this were available, would you try it do you think? Maybe I'll run a poll out of interest...
In this case, the girl was a minor so- perhaps there is some argument that she was vulnerable.
But really, this kind of language and reporting really irritates me. These people aren't being groomed from Facebook or Instragram- surely? They are seeking out ways to die because they are that desperately unhappy! I don't feel like they're being coerced into suicide. It's something they actively want and look for.
Maybe if they focussed on why that might be, they might be able to save a few more people. It just strikes me as lazy to assume a person is 'vulnerable' or weak minded and has been preyed upon by some evil poison seller or 'death cult.'
Even weirder- they'll sometimes report that the person had been suffering from depression and ideation for a long period yet their actual suicide came as a shock to everyone- like- seriously- why? Suicidal thoughts are quite a big red flag.
But hypothetically- if your suicide was reported on, would it irritate you (yes, I know it's probably not possible from beyond the grave but- the thought of it) for them to describe you as 'vulnerable' or 'targeted' or a 'victim' of some online manipulator? It would piss me off. If or when I suicide, it will be because I chose to do it. I researched my options, picked the best one and bought the stuff I needed. Simple as that. No one coerced me into it and I simply don't believe many people do get coerced into it.
Where I would perhaps agree is- someone in a very low mood is likely only to get those thoughts mirrored back somewhere like here. (I agree that it can be an echo chamber.) There isn't exactly coercion towards suicide but there isn't exactly much opposition towards it either.
That said- they (the normies and especially parents and people in authority) ought to be providing alternatives. If they are that worried about places like this and their possible negative influence, they ought to be focussing on providing something else. Safe spaces for people to be able to be open about how they feel but with effective support. If they really think they have the answers to all our problems, why aren't they providing this? So, as a secondary question- if this were available, would you try it do you think? Maybe I'll run a poll out of interest...
