Help Would I be a dick for jumping in front of a train?

[disappearingquietly]

I'm just getting desperate as hell, and this looks like a pretty lethal option. I'm fine with the gory nature of the aftermath, but one thing holds me back. The train operator. I don't think that seeing someone splattered on the front of the vehicle that you're controlling is very pleasant. Anyways, anyone got any thoughts?

 

[Downdraft]

This was asked the other day, and no, you're never a dick for being desperate. Nor for having significant pain you feel like dropping and not having many options left.

To restrict their rights isn't OK. No one should change the methods of others or hold such control over them, or telling their pain is acceptable just because they feel it based on pure subjectivity.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

At least try and jump in front of train without passengers, that way only one person has to be traumatized. Harm reduction and all that.

 

[tiredandafraid]

I don't think this would be a good way. You're basically forcing the driver of the train to do this and they will be scarred for life. Also, it seems so violent. I feel like a peaceful death is preferable to this. I make no judgments of you and your choices. I'm sorry you are in so much pain.

 

[justamirror]

I think if I had to choose between that or jumping from height I would choose to jump down to my death. Especially if it's concrete or asphalt. I don't think I would survive at 270 lb jumping 70+ feet belly flopping on the ground. Pretty good guarantee probably painless since it happens so quickly.

 

[ladylazarus4]

yes. I can empathize very much with desperation but I think it's wrong to basically pass at least some of your pain onto the train operator, a stranger just going about their job.

 

[hibikikyuxx]

No. You're just desperate and don't have any other method available to you. You didn't ask to be born and nobody should force you to stay alive. As long as society stigmatizes suicide and doesn't legalize Euthanasia, nobody has the right to judge you. Everyone should have the right to die, yet we only put suffering animals down. It's messed up.

 

[SNastablesalt]

I'm just getting desperate as hell, and this looks like a pretty lethal option. I'm fine with the gory nature of the aftermath, but one thing holds me back. The train operator. I don't think that seeing someone splattered on the front of the vehicle that you're controlling is very pleasant. Anyways, anyone got any thoughts?

In my opinion no in others yes.

 

[HopeToStay]

It's not the most dickheaded method, but it's certainly in the realms of dickhead.

 

[HopeToStay]

At least try and jump in front of train without passengers, that way only one person has to be traumatized. Harm reduction and all that.

I've actually been on a train that hit somebody.

I visited America and was riding the Amtrak into LA at a fair speed, maybe 60-70mph. Suddenly the train broke with all its force and we just sat the for ages not knowing why, then a police team came down the side of the train and started looking under our carriage. Not sure if it was suicide or not, i guess it probably was.

I was also coming home from work one night at Gatwick airport rail station when our train was delayed as someone had jumped in front of another train, but i did get the pleasure of seeing them wheel a body bag down the platform.

Neither incident was remotely traumatising tbh - though i can't speak for the driver who now has to live with those images for his whole life. However, both instances were frigging inconvenient, and you can multiply that inconvenience by every person on the train. A 2 hour delay on a train with 300 people on it is a almost a month of delay in total.

 

[annointed_towers]

I think people overestimate the trauma the driver would endure.

 

[turbomightbegone]

I think people overestimate the trauma the driver would endure.

tbf the driver could be anybody, they could be a sick freak that gets off to watching gore or they could be a kind innocent person. we wouldn't exactly know how much trauma the driver would endure because they're just a random person doing their job. it's expected that people would "overestimate" the trauma simply because we have no idea how much they can endure

 

[SVEN]

You'll certainly be someone who has left the train crew & emergency workers who have to clean up the bits of your body from the appliance and tracks something to remember you by.

 

[letmegetout]

I will never forget any of the suicides I've attended including those where people have jumped infront of trains, they're gory and traumatising for us as emergency workers and we're only there for the aftermath. I've never met a train driver who wasn't distraught after hitting someone. In my opinion involving a train driver is just passing your pain to them, yes they get time off work paid (in my country) but they also then have to go through a long process of dealing with the trauma they've been involved in. The one that particularly sticks in my mind is the driver telling me the man jumped out from the bushes ran onto the track faced the train before turning round at the last minute and being splattered all over the windscreen, that driver was absolutely beside himself.

 

[sweetcreep]

i know it seems really tempting, but maybe hold off a little bit longer until you figure out a better method. i feel like jumping in front of a train would force other people to be a part of your plans without their consent.

 

[ausiegal]

I agree with both sides of the fence listed above. It could be tough on the train driver/passengers/first responders. But I can also understand someone's desperation & that these thoughts may not be a priority for a person who simply wants to CTB.

Whilst it seems like the easy way out, there are methods that are more lethal listed on here.

Also, type train suicide into reddit and have a look at some of the NSFW photos/videos… your body may look like a beef brisket when you're done. That quickly turned me off this method.

May you find the peace you are seeking whether you choose this option or not.

 

[nihilist04]

I don't think this would be a good way. You're basically forcing the driver of the train to do this and they will be scarred for life. Also, it seems so violent. I feel like a peaceful death is preferable to this. I make no judgments of you and your choices. I'm sorry you are in so much pain.

kinda new, what would be a peaceful method/death?

 

[Spectre]

yes

 

[Trav1989]

I think if I had to choose between that or jumping from height I would choose to jump down to my death. Especially if it's concrete or asphalt. I don't think I would survive at 270 lb jumping 70+ feet belly flopping on the ground. Pretty good guarantee probably painless since it happens so quickly.

Yeah, getting drunk and falling off a very tall building would probably be a good choice. Just get extremely intoxicated and sit on the ledge and before you know it you tip off the side and by the time you realize what is happening it's almost over.

 

[Mark121]

No. You're just desperate and don't have any other method available to you. You didn't ask to be born and nobody should force you to stay alive. As long as society stigmatizes suicide and doesn't legalize Euthanasia, nobody has the right to judge you. Everyone should have the right to die, yet we only put suffering animals down. It's messed up.

Spot on

 

[needthebus]

it would be incredibly traumatic for the driver

it doesn't mean you would be a dick

but the right thing is to not traumatize the driver

 

[nasigoreng99]

kinda new, what would be a peaceful method/death?

From what ive learned here, its N (nembutal), but its almost impossible to get nowadays

After that it would be SN (sodium nitrite)

Once you have posted more, you will be able to use search function then you can look them up.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I don't think so. People get over things and move on. I don't think it's a particularly effective method, though. There's no telling how you impact the train and get deflected away, potentially surviving. We all need to make our own decisions as to what is right for us, and only us. If you go through with it, I wish you the best of luck and the outcome you desire, and I hope you find the peace you deserve.

 

[Unspoken7612]

Considerations:

1) a large minority of people who attempt suicide this way survive, often with life-changing injuries. You are less likely to survive if the train is travelling at top speed, or if the train is small (such as a subway train or a tram). Do not jump in front of a train that is just pulling into a platform.

2) if you do it at a station, there will probably be witnesses. Doing it away from a station is usually more difficult.

3) passengers may be delayed (even if you jump in front of a goods train). For this reason, consider making your attempt late at night to avoid the rush hours.

4) as others have said, it is very likely you will at least upset the driver. Around one in six experiences PTSD and a further 40% exhibit other mental health disorders like phobia or depression. So there is a better than 50% chance you will seriously damage their mental health.

That said, there is no objective definition of "dickhead". I think that people don't commit suicide for fun, it's the result of illness and/or desperation. Rail suicide is relatively accessible and relatively deadly. If I didn't have SN then it is probably the method I would go with.

 

[Tenebrion]

I'm not going to answer your question directly, instead I'm going to relate what happened to my brother-in-law.
At the time of this incident he was in his late thirties, in a long-term relationship and a pretty happy-go-lucky sort of guy. My then wife and I used to go out with him and his partner every Sunday for a pub lunch somewhere in the countryside.
He was a train driver, a job he really enjoyed, driving a commuter train into and out of London most days.
One day, early in the morning, he was driving his train as usual when out of nowhere someone jumped in front of his train. They were killed instantly unsurprisingly.
To cut a long story short his life fell apart after this. Whilst his employers were understanding and supportive, as we're his union, he never worked again. Always a bit on the heavy side his weight ballooned. He underwent therapy for a while but it didn't really help and eventually he stopped leaving the house altogether. He died of a heart attack at the age of 41, a completely broken man.