Worst N side effects

[davidtorez]

What would the worst outcome be if my N failed to kill me? I have N from 2018 and has been in the fridge ever since , but still worried it might not kill me. I have 2 bottles which is about 12 to 13g pentobarbital. I'm 90kg 43 year old male . I'm worried about ending up in a brain dead state or wheelchair bound. I have the worst luck with everything else in life so I'm worried this won't be any different. So what's the worst that could happen?

 

[Lady Laudanum]

I'm not trying to scare you but it's possible for brain damage to occur from your brain not getting enough oxygen. With any drug that sedates you to the point where you stop breathing, there's the possibility of you surviving with brain damage.

 

[davidtorez]

I'm not trying to scare you but it's possible for brain damage to occur from your brain not getting enough oxygen. With any drug that sedates you to the point where you stop breathing, there's the possibility of you surviving with brain damage.

I wonder if that is more likely if i got found in time or from the N being too old ? I have a couple of insulin syringes / needles at home. Would I be able to draw some liquid out with these and swallow a small amount to test to see how effective it is still?

 

[Lady Laudanum]

I wonder if that is more likely if i got found in time or from the N being too old ? I have a couple of insulin syringes / needles at home. Would I be able to draw some liquid out with these and swallow a small amount to test to see how effective it is still?

If you unseal the bottle of N then it'll be good for about 1 more month max, based on what I've heard.

 

[maniac116]

What would the worst outcome be if my N failed to kill me? I have N from 2018 and has been in the fridge ever since , but still worried it might not kill me. I have 2 bottles which is about 12 to 13g pentobarbital. I'm 90kg 43 year old male . I'm worried about ending up in a brain dead state or wheelchair bound. I have the worst luck with everything else in life so I'm worried this won't be any different. So what's the worst that could happen?

N is fairly stable even over a long period in adverse conditions.

 

[davidtorez]

If you unseal the bottle of N then it'll be good for about 1 more month max, based on what I've heard.

I think that's if u pop the rubber stopper , not if you take off that plastic bit

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I think the only accurate way to know if your N is still good is to remove some via syringe through the rubber stopper and send it to a lab who can do that kind of testing. Yes, taking off the seal and leaving the rubber stopper in place causes NO further harm to it.

 

[nihilistic_dragon]

Check out this thread about the stability of N.
Also, a living will where you state that you wouldn't want to exist in a brain dead state may be a good idea if you can manage to get one.

Stability of SN and N

I'd like to preface this to hopefully help people not make rash decisions due to the fear that their suicide method will go "bad" and they feel forced to take it before they truly want to. Freedom of choice means everything. There is a lot of misconception on here about how long both of these...

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[peruguy23]

I'm not trying to scare you but it's possible for brain damage to occur from your brain not getting enough oxygen. With any drug that sedates you to the point where you stop breathing, there's the possibility of you surviving with brain damage.

I was under the impression that N was the safest method of all. How or under what circumstances could N fail?

Sorry if it appears poorly translated but I'm using an online translator

 

[Lady Laudanum]

I was under the impression that N was the safest method of all. How or under what circumstances could N fail?

Sorry if it appears poorly translated but I'm using an online translator

Anything that sedates you and slows your breathing to the point where it stops has the potential to cause permanent brain damage from a lack of oxygen if you survive. If you take the right dose of N, make sure you take antiemetics, and no one finds you for long enough, you'll most likely manage to CTB. The chances of surviving are close to 0, but probably not 0.

I actually just read about whether N is ok to take after it expires and apparently it loses potency at an almost negligible rate.

 

[davidtorez]

Anything that sedates you and slows your breathing to the point where it stops has the potential to cause permanent brain damage from a lack of oxygen if you survive. If you take the right dose of N, make sure you take antiemetics, and no one finds you for long enough, you'll most likely manage to CTB. The chances of surviving are close to 0, but probably not 0.

I actually just read about whether N is ok to take after it expires and apparently it loses potency at an almost negligible rate.

Yeah I read that too. But I also have read some unlucky people end up in an extended comatose state . But maybe that's for people who have a tolerance to barbiturates or have a long time addiction to substances like alcohol?

 

[Tesha]

From my understanding the extended comatose state can last for a few days, instead of hours. After which you'll die. As a PP said it's not 100%, but as close to as possible. Don't forget it's an anaesthetic, not a poison and there's no antidote to an overdose.

Stability will be fine. If you want to test, just pop off the metal seal (leave plug in place), and use a small gauge needle / 1ml syringe to pull a sample through the rubber stopper. Keep the bottle upside down while doing this and make sure you don't inject any air into it. It will let a tiny bit of air in, as it equalises afterwards, but it won't affect the potency. You can then send away for testing.

 

[davidtorez]

From my understanding the extended comatose state can last for a few days, instead of hours. After which you'll die. As a PP said it's not 100%, but as close to as possible. Don't forget it's an anaesthetic, not a poison and there's no antidote to an overdose.

Stability will be fine. If you want to test, just pop off the metal seal (leave plug in place), and use a small gauge needle / 1ml syringe to pull a sample through the rubber stopper. Keep the bottle upside down while doing this and make sure you don't inject any air into it. It will let a tiny bit of air in, as it equalises afterwards, but it won't affect the potency. You can then send away for testing.

Would an insulin syringe work ?

 

[Tesha]

Would an insulin syringe work ?

It would, although it's quite a short needle so may be a bit fiddly. From memory you need less than 0.5ml for analysis, so you don't need a large syringe.

 

[davidtorez]

It would, although it's quite a short needle so may be a bit fiddly. From memory you need less than 0.5ml for analysis, so you don't need a large syringe.

Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it. Was thinking actually to draw some with the insulin syringe and consume a small amount orally to see if it puts me to.sleep and what it tastes like .if I feel drowsy or go to sleep especially with my chronic insomniac then I can assume it's still potent can't I?

 

[Tesha]

I would suggest max 1ml orally if you've never had it before. That won't make you fall asleep immediately, but you will know you've had it…. I find coating my mouth in toothpaste afterwards helps.

 

[davidtorez]

I would suggest max 1ml orally if you've never had it before. That won't make you fall asleep immediately, but you will know you've had it…. I find coating my mouth in toothpaste afterwards helps.

Awesome thanks for the tips