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in short .. the only thing holding me back is fear of the afterlife...thoughts? thinking carbon monoxide end-all /.
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yea but how? That's the million dollar question.Kind of like survival instinct, you have to overcome it
The way i think of it is that ill be happier there than i am here. That & alcohol helps.yea but how? That's the million dollar question.
Is it because of your religion?in short .. the only thing holding me back is fear of the afterlife...thoughts? thinking carbon monoxide end-all /.
Odds are there isn't an afterlife. I've studied many world religions and literatures and there is a consistent pattern of plagiarism through all religions. The Jews took stories and writings from the Greeks, The Christians from the Jews, The Muslims from the Christians etc. You have to ask yourself, if there is a God, does he expect me to be fluent in 30 different languages and have to navigate through the thousands of denominations of each religions just to worship him and if I don't or I pick the wrong religion I'll be tortured for eternity? There is also the question of why would God put me through something he knows will make me kill myself to send me to hell. Everyone has a point where they will commit suicide believe it or not, even if it is standing at the top of the burning towers during 9/11. Most great thinkers like Albert Einstein and the founding fathers believed in Deism, or a distant God and to me this makes the most sense if there is one. Maybe this God is just committing and experiment on all of us and once we die he'll reward us for participating. Who knows. But even the idea of "eternal damnation" has been challenged. In the earliest versions of the Old Testament, the idea of hell was merely that sinners and non believers would be incinerated i.e they would disappear and not get an afterlife. The church, authors like Dante, and translators manipulated these words into sinners being burned alive and tortured for all of eternity. Even the idea of eternal damnation was stolen from the Greeks idea of Hades. The Greeks in turn actually took this idea from the Egyptians, as we know from their book of the Dead that they believed in a sort of Hell as well. I don't think there is an afterlife but if there is I highly doubt anyone, even Hitler, will face eternal damnation.
Yeah i think Einstein believing in "spinozas" god, makes alot of sense, if creation depended on natural forces at work it would never happen, all the complex arrangement of dna ect. Would never happen. It would be like putting raw metal in a dryer and expecting a toaster. Same with planets, rotation, space cancelling out the effects of weight. Its pretty mind boggling and whether such a force would have any regard for its creations who knows.
I've seen evidence that convinced me both ways. To be honest I don't understand how life and cells could develop without a God from self replicating RNA strands but I'm not a scientist. However, if the universe in truly infinite as we believe, then it is inevitable that intelligent life will exist somewhere in the universe. There's an old thought experiment that suggests that if you give a monkey a keyboard and infinite time eventually he will type out the complete works of Shakespeare.
the unknownIs it because of your religion?
Or just the fear of the unknown.
well...no1 knows how we got here. very weirded out by that - makes me feel like the unexplained mystery could extend into post-deathwho really thinks there is an afterlife ?? what strikes me is intelligent people believing in god
said it before but i guess closer we get to death we may say a prayer on the off chance thats what zane did say one prayer in case you know
We do know thoughwell...no1 knows how we got here. very weirded out by that - makes me feel like the unexplained mystery could extend into post-death
Raised Catholic hell terrifies me I don't believe it but it's held me backin short .. the only thing holding me back is fear of the afterlife...thoughts? thinking carbon monoxide end-all /.
after death, you only exist in close relatives' memories.
I believe in the God from the NDEs and am sure the afterlife is a wonderful place to be.
So don't worry about it. Either it is great, or you fall into the neverending sleep. Both options are great!
i read books about the similarities in religion and agree with what you say, they exchange ideas and absorb them historically, it seems.Odds are there isn't an afterlife. I've studied many world religions and literatures and there is a consistent pattern of plagiarism through all religions. The Jews took stories and writings from the Greeks, The Christians from the Jews, The Muslims from the Christians etc. You have to ask yourself, if there is a God, does he expect me to be fluent in 30 different languages and have to navigate through the thousands of denominations of each religions just to worship him and if I don't or I pick the wrong religion I'll be tortured for eternity? There is also the question of why would God put me through something he knows will make me kill myself to send me to hell. Everyone has a point where they will commit suicide believe it or not, even if it is standing at the top of the burning towers during 9/11. Most great thinkers like Albert Einstein and the founding fathers believed in Deism, or a distant God and to me this makes the most sense if there is one. Maybe this God is just committing and experiment on all of us and once we die he'll reward us for participating. Who knows. But even the idea of "eternal damnation" has been challenged. In the earliest versions of the Old Testament, the idea of hell was merely that sinners and non believers would be incinerated i.e they would disappear and not get an afterlife. The church, authors like Dante, and translators manipulated these words into sinners being burned alive and tortured for all of eternity. Even the idea of eternal damnation was stolen from the Greeks idea of Hades. The Greeks in turn actually took this idea from the Egyptians, as we know from their book of the Dead that they believed in a sort of Hell as well. I don't think there is an afterlife but if there is I highly doubt anyone, even Hitler, will face eternal damnation.
Buddhism in general values life, especially because, while we are alive, we have the opportunity to advance spiritually. The process of death and rebirth slows down that advancement. If we haven't reach an adequate stage of development, we may even have to start at or near the beginning in our next lifetime. So, from the Buddhist point of view, being alive presents a tremendous opportunity that is not to be taken lightly. Throwing that opportunity away is frowned upon. At the same time, under certain conditions, suicide has been mentioned in Buddhist teachings. The Buddhist teachings also recognize that everything involves individual choice and an examination of immediate circumstances.in short .. the only thing holding me back is fear of the afterlife...thoughts? thinking carbon monoxide end-all /.