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- Nov 4, 2020
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I've seen people on both sides of woke/cancel culture argument in plenty of places lately, even here on ss. I'm really trying to figure out the negatives, because below is what I see them as, and maybe I'm wrong, and someone can clear things up for me.
Woke - my basic understanding is that "woke" people want equality and justice. Here are people I see labeled as woke:
Supporters of
Cancel culture - my understanding is discontinued support of (usually) celebrity or historical figures for various discretions. Examples:
I don't necessarily see these as negatives. I do realize some people have been canceled strictly on hearsay, which opens up the practice to potential abuse. At the same time, some people, like Marilyn Manson, seem to have been given a pass, even with numerous allegations of violence and misconduct. I also think some people are "fake woke" like Tim Cook, who didn't want to do business in states that don't support trans bathroom equality (yes, believe it or not, this is something that is important and I do support it), but is happy to have an Apple presence in countries where he would be killed because he's gay.
Woke - my basic understanding is that "woke" people want equality and justice. Here are people I see labeled as woke:
Supporters of
- LGBTQ+ rights
- Pro-choice/women's reproductive rights
- Women's rights in general
- Social reform
- Separation of church and state
- Holding historical figures accountable for their actions
- etc...
Cancel culture - my understanding is discontinued support of (usually) celebrity or historical figures for various discretions. Examples:
- Columbus day (so many reasons, not the least of which should be Leif Erikson got to N America 400 years earlier)
- J K Rowling for her views on trans vs cis women
- Chris Noth for allegedly raping two women
- Mike Richards for comments he made about Jews and women
- etc...
I don't necessarily see these as negatives. I do realize some people have been canceled strictly on hearsay, which opens up the practice to potential abuse. At the same time, some people, like Marilyn Manson, seem to have been given a pass, even with numerous allegations of violence and misconduct. I also think some people are "fake woke" like Tim Cook, who didn't want to do business in states that don't support trans bathroom equality (yes, believe it or not, this is something that is important and I do support it), but is happy to have an Apple presence in countries where he would be killed because he's gay.