Will all pot make you paranoid?

[Rollo]

The saying goes more CBD will make you not or less paranoid. Yet today I smoked what I think is Critical Kush and it's praised for high CBD (although it's still looks low at 1-2%), and yet it's exactly the same with all the rest of the bud I smoked. It has exact same potential to draw me into paranoia and it fully depends on how I feel and respond. So the question is for smokers - have you found that any particular strain or high CBD content doesn't draw you into paranoia, given the lavel of THC high is the same?

 

[Kdawg2018]

For me, this varies a lot. I have been smoking pot for 11 years and it all depends on the strain, how much you take, and how your mental and emotional state. Sometimes it gave me relief, sometimes it makes me paranoid, currently, it doesn't help me at all, and I am not using weed. I use a cbd vape pen, idk if it helps, but I like to vape it and pretend it does...

 

[Xaphous]

Here in UK you can legally buy CBD-only buds now. They're <0.1% THC. I ordered a couple a while ago (although they are about the same price for regular weed on the streets). I have to say that it is good for anxiety but I still really prefer regular weed as without any THC at all there is that feeling of 'something missing'. If it had like 2% THC it might be perfect for a chilled smoke but of course that's not allowed yet. For me regular weed does give me a strong feeling of anxiety but after the first day or so it dies down and then I can enjoy it. Soon I think I will try vaping CBD oils and see how that goes.

 

[Moms_Spaghetti]

Why not just buy cbd only buds there's some good sites that ship it if you live in the US it's legal. Yeah 1-2% seems really low.

 

[Kyrok]

1-2% CBD is nothing. Look for 15% CBD, 3% THC. If you can't find a strain with around that, buy hemp flower and mix 5x hemp to 1x MJ.

Also, terpenes matter. Linalool, myrcene, caryophlene and maybe pinene will be more antiolytic.

I find 2.5mg THC edibles also good. If you're prone to anxiety, you're likely ultra-sensitive to THC.

 

[Rollo]

Why not just buy cbd only buds there's some good sites that ship it if you live in the US it's legal. Yeah 1-2% seems really low.

1-2% CBD is nothing. Look for 15% CBD, 3% THC. If you can't find a strain with around that, buy hemp flower and mix 5x hemp to 1x MJ.

Also, terpenes matter. Linalool, myrcene, caryophlene and maybe pinene will be more antiolytic.

I find 2.5mg THC edibles also good. If you're prone to anxiety, you're likely ultra-sensitive to THC.

Yeah 1-2% is low, it's just it's higher than in most high-THC strains. So I guess that's why they say it has 'moderate dose of CBD" and claim anti-anxiety effect.

To be honest - I don't really look for anti-anxiety effect. The way I see it - all anxiety, all paranoia is my own making. THC enhances everything emotional/mental including this feeling of danger but it's still up to me not to panic. So if I do then I still have work to do. Like yesterday I had a great time, even though same dosage would make me miserable years ago. It's just I'm still curious whether there's actualy some pot that provides THC high yet somehow doesn't intensify feeling of danger. Obviously lesser THC will mean lesser anxiety, but the real question is whether more CBD (or more terpenes or other chemicals you listed) plus THC will result in lesser anxiety than the same dose of THC with less CBD.

 

[Jen Erik]

To be honest - I don't really look for anti-anxiety effect. The way I see it - all anxiety, all paranoia is my own making. THC enhances everything emotional/mental including this feeling of danger but it's still up to me not to panic. So if I do then I still have work to do. Like yesterday I had a great time,

Your ongoing commitment to marijuana despite the ill effects you describe experiencing is impressive. What is your goal in all this? What does 'I had a great time' mean to you?

 

[Norest4thewicked]

Been smoking since I was 15. Some of it chills me the fuck out , some dont . Living in England doesn't help. You can only get what 'The Man' is selling. Choice is limited here. CBD on its own doesn't really do much for me and as previously mentioned on this thread, for me it's not the same without THC . At least it doesn't have similar side effects to anti depressants, anti psychotics or mood stabilizers .

 

[Rollo]

Your ongoing commitment to marijuana despite the ill effects you describe experiencing is impressive. What is your goal in all this? What does 'I had a great time' mean to you?

My goal is to have a great time. I feel like I went to a resort. Like I said pot enhances everything about me, healthy or ill. Makes me smarter, makes all the stuff I would enjoy without it several times more enjoyable. Then again it enhances feeling of danger too. Like yesterday I got it when I thought how neighbours might sense all the smell from smoke and buds (these are some smelly buds, 5g bud smelled up my whole 2bdr appartment just laying there) and call the cops. But I didn't panic, at least not the way I used to. I thought what I would do if they show up, figured I probably just won't open the door. Anyway I accepted that whatever happens happens. And it was a smooth ride from there.

 

[Rollo]

Been smoking since I was 15. Some of it chills me the fuck out , some dont . Living in England doesn't help. You can only get what 'The Man' is selling. Choice is limited here. CBD on its own doesn't really do much for me and as previously mentioned on this thread, for me it's not the same without THC . At least it doesn't have similar side effects to anti depressants, anti psychotics or mood stabilizers .

I live in Russia and here The Man doesn't sell shit. I actually almost got busted trying to buy from darknet. Still enjoyed the adventure though.

 

[Escape Humanity]

I prefer strains that have the potential to make me paranoid, (THC – 20% or higher, CBD no higher than 1%) but I usually take the necessary precautions to avoid any type of discomfort. THC has the potential to impair your cognitive functions and exacerbate some types of discomfort that you regularly feel when you're sober. That's why paranoia is usually only a problem for me when I'm in public or around large groups of people. So I only smoke or vape when I plan on being in a comfortable environment during the duration of my high (Usually 1 – 3 hours). And I rarely eat or drink anything that contains THC, because it has the potential to be a completely different experience than smoking. The high can last for over 6 hours, and eating too much THC has the potential to be one of the worse psychological experiences that a person could have. It's one of the reasons why I will never try LSD or mushrooms. I don't think there's anything appealing about temporary psychosis.

 

[Rollo]

I prefer strains that have the potential to make me paranoid, (THC – 20% or higher, CBD no higher than 1%) but I usually take the necessary precautions to avoid any type of discomfort. THC has the potential to impair your cognitive functions and exacerbate some types of discomfort that you regularly feel when you're sober. That's why paranoia is usually only a problem for me when I'm in public or around large groups of people. So I only smoke or vape when I plan on being in a comfortable environment during the duration of my high (Usually 1 – 3 hours). And I rarely eat or drink anything that contains THC, because it has the potential to be a completely different experience than smoking. The high can last for over 6 hours, and eating too much THC has the potential to be one of the worse psychological experiences that a person could have. It's one of the reasons why I will never try LSD or mushrooms. I don't think there's anything appealing about temporary psychosis.

I would say it's not THC that impairs cognitive function (after all what "heightened awareness" but improvement in cognitive function), but rather fear that impairs it. For example In Russia they say "fear has big eyes". When you're afraid you tend to exaggerate the possibility of negative event. And just in general when you're anxious cognitive function is impaired. So because THC enhances everything, fear is enhanced and thus this impairment from fear.

So what you say about very high THC doses, LSD and shrooms - all the devastating psychological experiences are due to fear/terror. Substract it and no matter what the dosage is it's going to be fine. I did low to moderate doses of shrooms and wouldn't call experience psychosis. But the stuff sure is powerful.

 

[Escape Humanity]

I would say it's not THC that impairs cognitive function (after all what "heightened awareness" but improvement in cognitive function), but rather fear that impairs it. For example In Russia they say "fear has big eyes". When you're afraid you tend to exaggerate the possibility of negative event. And just in general when you're anxious cognitive function is impaired. So because THC enhances everything, fear is enhanced and thus this impairment from fear.

So what you say about very high THC doses, LSD and shrooms - all the devastating psychological experiences are due to fear/terror. Substract it and no matter what the dosage is it's going to be fine. I did low to moderate doses of shrooms and wouldn't call experience psychosis. But the stuff sure is powerful.

I don't know about you, but my arithmetic and my short-term memory is horrible when I'm under the influence. That's probably the number one reason why I don't like to be high in public. Simply paying for something with cash in a store can be a problem. "Did the cashier give me the correct amount of change? Was I charged too much? Should I buy the product from another store? I'm uncomfortable. I shouldn't be here." Those are the thoughts that go through my mind.

 

[Mr2005]

Pot certainly alters your perception. People will like to tell you it's paranoia but it's not always

 

[Kyrok]

THC certainly affects cognition. It impairs some functions (memory, analytic powers), enhances others (sensation, creativity). Areas affected partly track with CB1 receptors in the brain. Interestingly, however, fMRI data shows that THC enhances right brain function while reducing left.

 

[Rollo]

I don't know about you, but my arithmetic and my short-term memory is horrible when I'm under the influence. That's probably the number one reason why I don't like to be high in public. Simply paying for something with cash in a store can be a problem. "Did the cashier give me the correct amount of change? Was I charged too much? Should I buy the product from another store? I'm uncomfortable. I shouldn't be here." Those are the thoughts that go through my mind.

Mine seem to be fine. These thoughts you brought up, they are anxious thoughts. And like I said fear by itself does impair cognition including when you're sober. If you were high and entirely chilled, then tried to ascertain whether you were given enough change and then found out your arithmetic is malfunctioning - then it would definitely be pot itself. It's interesting though - I will try counting next time I'm on pot just to see if my arithmetic is impaired.

 

[Kyrok]

One effect of THC is it inhibits inhibitory neurotransmitters. The result is thoughts which take you down the proverbial "rabbit hole." So, you lose track, get distracted, etc..

 

[Rollo]

One effect of THC is it inhibits inhibitory neurotransmitters. The result is thoughts which take you down the proverbial "rabbit hole." So, you lose track, get distracted, etc..

What kind of thoughts do you mean?

 

[Rollo]

Just in case anyone is interested - today is the new year's eve and I smoked and tried to count in my mind. These are my results. I only did additions, did 9 with randomly picked numbers. Subjectively I didn't notice much impairment compared to when I'm sober. I did noticed though much impairment coming from fear when I jumped from two digits to three digits and started worrying about failing. Still didn't make a single mistake. That's the order I did them in. Somehow number 132 came up both times I forgot where I started counting time on my wall clock. Will have to do a sober test to compare.

98+34 132
74+67 141 (10s)
76+56 132
92+69 161 (5s)
67+45 112 (5s)
77+69 146 (7s)
567+895 1462 (30s)
876+578 1454 (20s)
1134+1578 2712 (10s)

And as a bonus here are fireworks I filmed after midnight