Why you (probably) shouldn't CTB

[mind3de]

I know this might sound crazy. But in February 2023 God revealed himself to me. I was a radical atheist for 30 years. But now I KNOW that God exists.

So when you CTB, keep in mind, you will go to God. Trust me, he does exist!!!

So be careful.

 

[swankysoup]

How was your experience?

 

[divinemistress36]

Whats wrong with going to God if he exsists?

 

[opheliaoveragain]

not fully sure how I feel about this post. if god gave a shit, why is the entire world on fire? the destruction creeps into our subconscious as humans and we feel overwhelmed to the point of ctb. if there was a god, that being is dead. I respect your views are your own but this ain't it. maybe i'm coming from a place of religious trauma but it's also realism.

tbh your post is really pro life coded — no need to pull the "be careful" line to people who may be mentally vulnerable to such narratives due to trauma etc not really sure a suicide forum is the place to preach.

eta: i think it's awesome you've connected to something bigger outside yourself and I hope it helps you recover fully. sorry if I seemed crass.

 

[ramona_flowers]

As a christian, you just make me wanna do it more.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Good, now I finally know I'll be able to speak my mind to the manager. Can't wait to go full Karen on Him.

 

[TheHolySword]

I don't need preaching to. If god exists then he lets me suffer. Maybe god should be careful for when I reveal myself to him.

 

[avalokitesvara]

Oh wow, social control instilled by fear via the invocation of a judging entity and a punitive afterlife. Groundbreaking.

 

[cantdecidenameeven]

Does he have a beard

 

[moonoverthesea]

Coming to the Suicide Section to preach to people that "God is there" isn't really kind, imo. Maybe this post would be better suited for Recovery?

 

[opheliaoveragain]

Coming to the Suicide Section to preach to people that "God is there" isn't really kind, imo. Maybe this post would be better suited for Recovery?

my thoughts exactly.

 

[Sutter]

I know this might sound crazy. But in February 2023 God revealed himself to me. I was a radical atheist for 30 years. But now I KNOW that God exists.

So when you CTB, keep in mind, you will go to God. Trust me, he does exist!!!

So be careful.

Moses.

Seems as though you have found faith, and a desire to share that faith, all in for your choice….

Im not a radical atheist myself, more a bird caught for dinner is better than the one dreamed about, could argue the value of the dreamed bird but that is off track. So, before I get lost, not a fan of the stick. Dont get me wrong a heavy stick has its place to make things right in the here and now, just not a fan of how its used as a fearful negative.

Raised children of my own, never used a stick, fair enough for a warning though. Rings true for the faithful for those fallen away its a different story.

If I told you there is a man in the sky, that no one alive has ever seen, and that special man made specific rules adhering a group of people to a set social and spiritual contract, may sound plausible. The man in the sky also affects all good and bad things for a master plan that no soul has ever been privy to and rains food from the clouds, sets bushes on fire, writes notes in stone, and spent a long time talking to an old man with a long beard, on a long walk in the desert. Granted there is that which man does not understand, could very well be a man in the sky. A faith once held witch trials, felt entitled to spread that faith with a crusade, committed some serious atrocities with big sticks. May come as amazing why a man facing death will proclaim a faith to breathe another day, sticks though dont bring kindred they bring twisted guilt and a vengeful spirit.

Most of todays messages about a kinder faith may carry farther. Not all will bend a knee, some will want to stand.

Not offended myself and figure it was meant in a good spirit. Tell the story of your awakening, tell the story of a lasting love, beware the stick though everyone knows what a stick is for and kindness usually doesnt follow.

Mind the story of a devout man that died in the desert, loyal as he was, seeing a promised land but never reaching it, Moses that stick cracked hard.

 

[permanently tired]

If oscar wilde's ghost personally told me he thinks I should live then maybe. Otherwise no thanks.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

i will never believe in any of the following : god, afterlife , reincarnation, computer simulation , souls , magic, devil, demons, nothing supernatural, multiverses , etc.

for one thing there is not one iota of evidence for any of these.

in any event nothing could ever make me not want to kill myself . some of the things holding me back for now is fear of failure and remaining alive with brain damage. but i don't see any rational reason for me not to kill myself asap

 

[maniac116]

I know this might sound crazy. But in February 2023 God revealed himself to me. I was a radical atheist for 30 years. But now I KNOW that God exists.

So when you CTB, keep in mind, you will go to God. Trust me, he does exist!!!

So be careful.

Thank you for sharing your experience. I personally find it inspiring. I do believe in a higher power & a higher purpose.

 

[ForgottenAgain]

Are you sure it wasn't psychosis? Not asking in bad faith, it's just something that can happen and can be so believable...

If it wasn't, then I'm glad that helps you but, if you were an atheist prior, I'm sure you'll realise that what you're preaching will fall on deaf ears. There's no reason for people to suddenly change the way they see the world because you believe you met God. We've been hearing that spiel for years now from pretty much any person that is religious, this is nothing new...

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Did God really talk to you or is it more likely that there is some sort of logical explanation for this, such as you having a psychotic break for example? The issue with this whole "God spoke to me thus he must be real" and similar bullshit is that this shit has been repeated by many people before, a lot of whom use it as proof that their religion is the correct faith to follow. I would personally recommend that you go and get checked for psychosis, tbh. /gen

Edit:

NDE's are why I'm scared to CTB. 9 years ago I had an experience which was close to an NDE.
I tried killing myself by train. It was really weird, because a few meters away from the the rails I saw my mother (which looked kind of evil, like a witch) and other human-like entities (which to me felt like I already knew them for a very long time, WTF?) and I even saw a reaper right in front of me, like he was waiting already to get me. He looked like he was annoyed by his job.

I also saw someone which I think was my uncle who CTB in the 90s. He was making desperate movements / signs with his hands and arms trying me to not CTB. Like he was warning me of something.

So I stepped back again. I still don't know if I just hallucinated or if that was real. Was this all just SI? I don't know.

I suffer from psychosis/HPPD (Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder). I wish I could NOT hallucinate.
Be glad that you're not hallucinating all the time. If you really want to, give LSD a try. I did LSD and it destroyed my whole life.

Suffering from psychosis and having no hope to ever find a good job. Because of that I will always be poor. Always be excluded from any kind of fun in life.
Also due to my schizoid personality disorder I will always be alalone.

Well, I went through their posts and seems like this is probably a case of psychosis.

They also had a post under a thread where they talked about the age of consent in Germany is 14 and how even a 60-year-old man can have sex with a 14-year-old girl without getting in trouble... So, that was something...

 

[CantDoIt]

I don't know why God existing should stop me from ctb. If he did exist. Am I gonna get grounded?

 

[opheliaoveragain]

Did God really talk to you or is it more likely that there is some sort of logical explanation for this, such as you having a psychotic break for example? The issue with this whole "God spoke to me thus he must be real" and similar bullshit is that this shit has been repeated by many people before, a lot of whom use it as proof that their religion is the correct faith to follow. I would personally recommend that you go and get checked for psychosis, tbh. /gen

Edit:






Well, I went through their posts and seems like this is probably a case of psychosis.

They also had a post under a thread where they talked about the age of consent in Germany is 14 and how even a 60-year-old man can have sex with a 14-year-old girl without getting in trouble... So, that was something...

YIKES at that last bit in particular.

idk if it's just brazenness or being behind a keyboard but that def doesn't fly under any circumstances IMHO.

 

[Forever Sleep]

If God exists, presumably we'll also meet them after they've killed us via some grizzly natural death. Were they specific with you then? That they didn't want you to commit suicide? I wish they'd make themselves known to everyone. Stop all the confusion and squabling.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

The brain is easily capable in making people believe in things that aren't there or making people believe in views which get disproven by a mere empirical view of the world. It's actually so scary at how our brains dictate basically almost everything about us. This doesn't mean that there is a god though

 

[Kalista]

there's a woman who claimed 'god' visited her while sleeping/dreaming. then later she woke up being able to carry an otherwise very heavy object while having diagnosed chronic physical illness -- much like when jesus carried the cross in the story as they compared it to that. then later she apparently floated in front of a small group of people while her body is in a sign of a cross, leaving them gasping or some shit.

because of this, she became the leader of a 'religion' which now has thousands if not tens of thousands of followers (apparently). god instructed her to spread the word in all four corners of the world and so she tried and did. this woman is from a developing country.

i was invited to their camp which took place inside a basketball court that they seem to have rented for the weekend. did bible studies while being taught other teachings specific to their 'movement,' as they called it. a recording of the above 'miracles' were played in a dark make-shift room with lit candles. the voice of the woman was talking and telling the story accompanied by another man's voice.
after the recording ended, one of the camp leaders followed up with some more shit about the story. then soon after, he asked us a question which was more of a threat:

"we are recruiting soldiers of god. this is your chance. you're either with us, or against us" -- then silence

this line was more than enough for me to label this as a cult

we were mostly kids with a few adults. a few that actually traveled from another country to be there. we had no where else to go if we chose to say 'no' to that question for the ones that didn't want to participate. which was only me and a friend of my cousins. i was agnostic and he is christian. i didn't want to be a part of it, but i had no where else to go since i didn't drive and the place was a few hours away from home.
so to say 'yes,' we had to enter another makeshift room connected to it. getting in line to kiss the feet of a medium-sized mary statue and saying a few worship-like words, then moving on. we had dinner then slept soon after.

these stories are always convenient. there's no video proof of these types 'miracles' happening again. well because they're miracles and can only be taken by word of mouth if you missed out on it. as religious people love to say, 'have faith'

my cousins are a part of this cult and other relatives. a reason why i was taken without me being aware of it. their attempt to bring me in the circle. one or two of my cousins believed heavily the story of her floating and was amazed. failing to question anything about it.

this is a long response to a garbage post about some 'god' visiting them in some form or another.

had a dream that my ex fucked a bunch of guys and i woke up very sad and angry, but doesn't mean it's true because in reality she's not that type.
it's funny when dreams like that occur, people tell you it's just a dream, but when it's related to religion, 'OH IT MUST BE GOD TALKING TO ME AND SENDING US A MESSAGE AND I'M HIS MESSIAH TO SPREAD THE WORD'

gullible people will be gullible people

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

Ok

 

[Hollowman]

Trust you? Ummm no

 

[ShatteredSerenity]

In February 2024 God revealed himself to me. I was an agnostic Buddhist for 30 years, so I was blown away to discover that God was real and talking to me.

It was an incredible exprience to connect directly with God. I could feel his prescence viscerally in my body. He directed me to do things, and sent messages, both in words and through symbolism. He sent people and animals to me. He sent angels to protect me. He showed me bliss I could have never imagined was possible.

God also has a terrible side. He caused great suffering to test my faith. He took away everything I loved and cherished.

In August 2024 my manic episode subsided and it became abundantly clear that I was suffering from bipolar disorder. All of my brilliant insights turned out to be delusions, and my entire life fell apart. The beautiful blissful trances ended and were replaced with persistent severe depression. God had forsaken me.

I'm not sure what to make of my mania-induced spiritual awakening. After hearing about experiences of other people with bipolar, I found out that this religious stuff is completely standard, even in people who never were religious before. I was never 100% convinced of God even in the midst of mania, but it was so realistic that I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't God now that I'm back in reality. It could be that mania somehow nudges people into altered states of consciousness that enable communication with other domains. It's unlikely, but plausible.

Now I really wonder how many prophets and religious leaders had bipolar or some other psychiatric disorder. If you could keep your shit together while manic and you were a talented writer, I could totally see churning out large volumes of religious content and building a following. It also must be possible to reach these states through meditation, especially long isolated meditations in the wilderness, or meditation combined with psychotropic substances.

 

[yxmux]

This is definitely bait lol

 

[me_when_:D]

This is definitely bait lol

idk, I have a religious friend that tells me he talks with God sometimes (like asking an advice and stuff, and oddly enough the God replies).
I am an atheist and I believe he is just talking to himself (he is fully mentally healthy dude otherwise), but nonetheless he fully believes into what he states

 

[theater]

In February 2024 God revealed himself to me. I was an agnostic Buddhist for 30 years, so I was blown away to discover that God was real and talking to me.

It was an incredible exprience to connect directly with God. I could feel his prescence viscerally in my body. He directed me to do things, and sent messages, both in words and through symbolism. He sent people and animals to me. He sent angels to protect me. He showed me bliss I could have never imagined was possible.

God also has a terrible side. He caused great suffering to test my faith. He took away everything I loved and cherished.

In August 2024 my manic episode subsided and it became abundantly clear that I was suffering from bipolar disorder. All of my brilliant insights turned out to be delusions, and my entire life fell apart. The beautiful blissful trances ended and were replaced with persistent severe depression. God had forsaken me.

I'm not sure what to make of my mania-induced spiritual awakening. After hearing about experiences of other people with bipolar, I found out that this religious stuff is completely standard, even in people who never were religious before. I was never 100% convinced of God even in the midst of mania, but it was so realistic that I'm not 100% convinced it wasn't God now that I'm back in reality. It could be that mania somehow nudges people into altered states of consciousness that enable communication with other domains. It's unlikely, but plausible.

Now I really wonder how many prophets and religious leaders had bipolar or some other psychiatric disorder. If you could keep your shit together while manic and you were a talented writer, I could totally see churning out large volumes of religious content and building a following. It also must be possible to reach these states through meditation, especially long isolated meditations in the wilderness, or meditation combined with psychotropic substances.

I have been diagnosed as BP2 for 13+ years. Some psychiatrists don't agree and diagnose me as MDD. But I've had long manic periods when I was in my twenties.

I like how you're sharing your experiences and walking us through your thought process. I agree with you that we should question how real experiences are in altered mental states.

I'm currently depressed for years on end. I'm in an altered mental state. I recently saw a charcoal-black bony hand holding the top of my TV and it slithered behind the TV so quickly. I see moving shadows. Last night I was staring into the void and saw some kind of letters appear on a wood cabinet. I do wonder, what is real? (These are just current events. I've had a lot of altered experiences)

 

[rozeske]

What you fail to understand is people don't commit suicide because there is no God. So the argument don't kill yourself because there is a God is kinda pointless, there is also the fact that several of us believe in the existence of a God, but the likelihood that you are just having an episode may also make all of this pointless....