Discussion Why is there so much non-methods shown in media if it's false?

[CatAstro.Fee]

Just came in my mind because I learned alot from megathreads here and I'm just confused why if many common methods you see doesn't work, why it's shown so much in books, movies, ect?

Main example is overdose.

I can understand people don't want others to actually cbt, so they make up scenarios, but it can also lead to people getting permanent issues from trying non-methods...I don't get it.

It also just makes the general population a little oblivious to the facts surrounding it, mainly paranoid oldheads, the kind that think everyone on the internet is dangerous and can hack you.

Thoughts?

 

[amor.dor]

It also depends on the collective idea of what CTB methods are. For example, the use of a powerful sleeping pill is very romanticized by people. It made sense in the past when people took barbiturates and sometimes died accidentally due to the potency of the drug, but nowadays benzos are on the market and are very safe and were made to replace barbiturates.
Of course, society will not provide any form of clean death, since they don't even mention suicide in the news. Talking about suicide is like opening Pandora's box.

 

[Captive_Mind515]

Back in the past, overdoses were more reliable. Drugs are now made safe from that type of abuse. In Marilyn Monroe's era, she took an overdose of yellow jackets (and other stuff) which was basically Nembutal in pill form. It was a very common over the counter drug, and so it became popular to OD on painkillers. That's what I've read anyway.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

imo they show these non-methods as working on purpose for those reasons cause they don't work and they don't care if it permanently damages someone as long as they remain alive.

also to create the lies that 1. suicide is easy 2. suicide is impulsive

we've all seen these scenes in movies. a person has some distressing event. then they immediately go the bathroom open up the medicine cabinet down a bottle of pills and die . then you see everyone their family friends crying.

this is to create the belief in the population that suicide is always impulsive and easy so that government then must do massive efforts to prevent this trajedy called suicide . why? cause after seeing this scene repeatedly that;s what gets programmed in the subconsciuos mind that suicide is a trajedy because it's always impulsive and so easy.... so that government then has to crack down on everything to prevent this trajedy : so imo this is why people accept it's ok to ban Nembutal , and put people in hospitals if they even say they want to suicide.

and i'm just going off memory . i haven't seen movies in many years but i bet they are still showing the same bs

imo this implants the belief in the population that suicide is easy and always impulsive. where does this come from?

much more to this . also other scenes why people believe suicidal people are mentally ill.

on this forum most know these are lies. 1. suicide is very difficult not easy. 2. suicide can be rational and can happen after many years of suffering and thinking about it's not always impulsive. 3. all suicidal people are not mentally ill

 

[orvreader]

They don't care about causing permanent issues from improper techniques, they just think breathing > not breathing. That's why they want to close off resources like this site, why would you think they care about anything other than ""death prevention"" numbers?

 

[amor.dor]

imo they show these non-methods as working on purpose for those reasons cause they don't work and they don't care if it permanently damages someone.

also to create the lies that 1. suicide is easy 2. suicide is impulsive

we've all seen these scenes in movies. a person has some distressing event. then they go the bathroom open up the medicine cabinet down a bottle of pills and die .

and i'm just going off memory . i haven't seen movies in many years but i bet they are still showing the same bs

imo this implants the belief in the population that suicide is easy. where does this come from?

After all, from their point of view, a person is someone who can generate income, even someone with health issues because they spend money on medicine and hospital bills. A dead person, on the other hand, only generates funeral costs.

 

[paperwork]

I think it's to prevent actually effective methods from being spread via media. Then again there are a lot of examples of an actually effective method (hanging), so I couldn't tell you. Maybe it's just the first methods that come to mind?