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JustHeckinKillMe

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It's used to make explosives so why customs aren't strict with it? Is it legal to import in your country?
 
Hydrokhoos

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Dec 1, 2019
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Do you have sources on instances where it has been used as an explosive? Just because it CAN be used doesn't make me think it is used that often, or will happen easily. Sounds like there are better chemicals to make explosives. From what I've seen it's much more commonly used to cure meat, which is a pretty reasonable use.
 
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JustHeckinKillMe

JustHeckinKillMe

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Do you have sources on instances where it has been used as an explosive? Just because it CAN be used doesn't make me think it is used that often, or will happen easily. Sounds like there are better chemicals to make explosives. From what I've seen it's much more commonly used to cure meat, which is a pretty reasonable use.
My question is did someone buy it and it arrived even if it's prohibited in their country?
 
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ArtVandelay

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Apr 15, 2019
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Lots of household items can be used to make explosives. And It's not like it's going to combust if you just expose it to heat...it requires some in-depth preparation.

My question is did someone buy it and it arrived even if it's prohibited in their country?

What countries is it prohibited in? I thought it was legal everywhere.
 
Hydrokhoos

Hydrokhoos

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My question is did someone buy it and it arrived even if it's prohibited in their country?
You're asking several different questions, not one of them asking something that would give the same answer. Your post is asking "why is it easy to order SN?" and I answered - it's not commonly used as an explosive, but commonly used to cure meat.
 
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Mizzmini45

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you can say that about a lot of things
 
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Thatdude

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Sep 26, 2019
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It's used to make explosives so why customs aren't strict with it? Is it legal to import in your country?
you can say that about a lot of things

bleach + ammonia = chlorine gas
gasoline + soap/oil + optional aluminum = napalm
aluminum + magnesium + optional iron rust to make it burn hotter = thermite
gasoline + soap/oil + aluminum + magnesium + iron rust = napalm thermite mix
pretty much any battery is a bomb.

Should I keep going?

My point is, there is a lot of things that are legal but can take out a ton of people. The reason why it is legal is 99.999999% of people don't use it for such things. And believe it or not, it isn't actually illegal to make bombs in most places in the world. It's only illegal to use them on property you don't own, within distance of homes, or against other people. Like making them will 100% get eyes on you.
And to be honest, if you want to ban everything that can be used as a weapon. Then the only answer to that is to take out everyone in the world. Everything can be a weapon if you're creative enough. Believe it or not, a spoon can be used as a weapon.
 
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MidLifeCrisis

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Sep 21, 2019
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Are you confusing Sodium Nitrite with Sodium Nitrate?
 
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Lotus1818

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Nov 4, 2019
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No he's confusing sodium azide. That can be used to make explosives. Dr p said so multiple times in his workshops. That's why he says SN is better then sa because SN can't be outlawed that quickly
 
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TowerUpright

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May 26, 2019
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Nitrates of different kinds are used as a base in explosives. Ammonium Nitrate is common in homemade bombs.

Nitrites , though, are not explosive. Well, I suppose Amyl Nitrite is "explosive" in its own way....
 
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Sunset Limited

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Jul 29, 2019
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Nitrogenous compounds are used to make explosives. However, there are cheaper and more easily accessible ones, such as fertilizer. It is even referred to as fertilizer bomb. A stable explosive. It is produced in very high quantities and can be easily transported. Not as sensitive as TNT. TNT is used to detonate the fertilizer bomb. For example, car bomb in the middle east.
 
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TimeToBiteTheDust

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Nov 7, 2019
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I didn't have any trouble in my country to get it. I bought it from a local seller.
 
NitriteAnatomy

NitriteAnatomy

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Nov 21, 2019
450
bleach + ammonia = chlorine gas
gasoline + soap/oil + optional aluminum = napalm
aluminum + magnesium + optional iron rust to make it burn hotter = thermite
gasoline + soap/oil + aluminum + magnesium + iron rust = napalm thermite mix
pretty much any battery is a bomb.

Should I keep going?

My point is, there is a lot of things that are legal but can take out a ton of people. The reason why it is legal is 99.999999% of people don't use it for such things. And believe it or not, it isn't actually illegal to make bombs in most places in the world. It's only illegal to use them on property you don't own, within distance of homes, or against other people. Like making them will 100% get eyes on you.
And to be honest, if you want to ban everything that can be used as a weapon. Then the only answer to that is to take out everyone in the world. Everything can be a weapon if you're creative enough. Believe it or not, a spoon can be used as a weapon.
Not sure it's safe to be listing bomb recipes.
 
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Thatdude

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Not sure it's safe to be listing bomb recipes.
These are well known, and under the law in the USA I'm protected through the first amendment. Even more since it can be viewed as educational material. Plus none of them are bombs but the last.
As far as I understand it, I'm OK to say what I said as long as I'm not telling people to go out there and use the stuff in an illegal way. I think a big reason why this is the case is so you don't go "inventing" the next cleaning or whatever product, and gassing yourself or blowing yourself up.

The first one is something taught to almost everyone in the USA at a young age since those are common cleaning products. Napalm and thermite burns stuff. Napalm is something that will keep burning even if you put water on it. Thermite burns at I think 4,000 degrees. It is used to cut through metal because it just melts it quickly. But I use it personally if I have things like oak wood that needs to burn in a burn pile. Otherwise it takes literally 3 or 4 days, and even then it's iffy if it will completely burn.
Now as far as the last one, I think this should be taught. Batteries are very dangerous and they can burn at very high temp. It can blow up if made wrong, damage, or used wrong.


But what I listed can be consider a joke compared to what real damage can happen with what can be mixed in your cleaning cabinet. Bar soap is used in many many many highly explosive and deadly bombs. My point to the OP is practically everything around you would have to be ban if you are to ban anything that can be used as a weapon.


NOTE: things like fertilizer that is known to be made into some really nasty bombs, that can get some eyes on you. Like farmers need to buy large amounts of it, and this is a major reason why buying huge amounts is legal. But a lot of that is tracked. So even if you can buy it, it doesn't mean you didn't bring up some red flag somewhere.
It is the same when you go to drug stores and buy a high amount of stuff. This automatically brings up a red flag, and potential eyes could go on you for a bit.
 
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NitriteAnatomy

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Fine, have it your way. If some stupid shit comes of this, it's on you guys. Doesn't matter if this shit is searchable online or not. Does no one take into consideration this is a fucking SUICIDE forum? Bombs aren't meant to kill just an individual, but whatever, do what you want. I voiced my opinion on the matter.
 
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Santiago

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Mar 25, 2018
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FBI if you're reading this. I had nothing to do with it, ok?

:halo:
 
MeltingHeart

MeltingHeart

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Sep 9, 2019
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Seems to be getting harder in some places
 
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Thatdude

Life is temporary, death is permanent
Sep 26, 2019
481
Does no one take into consideration this is a fucking SUICIDE forum?
I understand what you're talking about, but again what I listed wasn't bombs. I mean the gas can hurt multiple people at once, but it actually is a horrible way to go and it might not work. Like that gas makes it where you drown in your own liquids. But unless if you do it right, then it's pretty easy to mess it up where everyone will be ok.
As far as napalm and thermite, that has to be on contact. Napalm is like a sticky syrup, and thermite is a powder. Both just burn and not explode. That's obviously a horrible way to go since you would be putting yourself on fire.

The batteries I didn't list how you can damage them or mess with them to get whatever result. Mostly because I don't know it off the top of my head, but still. None of the methods is anymore dangerous than burning down a building while you're in it.

Now you might argue that people on here might do exactly that (burn down a building with them in it). From what I seen on here, people are on here for a few reasons.

  1. Attention
  2. To find out a peaceful method that works
  3. To find a reason to not off themselves
  4. Research

I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone here wants to hurt/take innocent out when they go. In fact, I think many take great care in making sure that doesn't happen.


Lastly, if you don't know the ratio or how to mix it properly. Then it's worthless info.
 
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NitriteAnatomy

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I already wiped my hands clean of this. I want nothing else to do with it, stop messaging me with details I didn't ask for. You guys do what the hell you want without consideration of consequences.
 
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Roger

Roger

I Liked Ike
May 11, 2019
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Nitrates of different kinds are used as a base in explosives. Ammonium Nitrate is common in homemade bombs.

Very common in commercial explosives too, as ANFO - Ammonium Nitrate Fuel Oil.
 

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