Why fear something that is Natural?

[lonerclown666]

Death is Natural, happens to every thing in this universe People die Animals die Stars die and someday this Planet will die too why fear something that is Natural? it will happen anyways we did not exist 200 years ago and we will stop existing someday my death is close and im not longer in fear i want to experience the next level soon

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I'm not really afraid of a natural old age death. I'm afraid of choosing my own death, for some reason.

 

[Ta555]

Death is Natural, happens to every thing in this universe People die Animals die Stars die and some day this Planet will die too why fear something that is Natural? it will happen anyways my death is close and im not longer in fear i want to experience the next level soon

We fear it because we can't conceptualise it. Because we don't know what it's like to be unconscious we imagine death to be like you're conscious but trapped somewhere, or conscious but not allowed to participate in the world. We don't know what it's like being unconscious. Like anesthetic, you remember falling asleep and you remember waking up, but you don't remember being out. So we don't know what it's like...impossible to imagine not having consciousness when we've always had it.
So I think the problem is our brains can only imagine death as being conscious but not here and we don't know where or what will be done to us. That's why it's scary I think.

 

[Foresight]

We fear the natural occurance because natural evolution made us fearful of it. Nature's kind of a bitch.

 

[Ta555]

I'm not really afraid of a natural old age death. I'm afraid of choosing my own death, for some reason.

Because we've been conditioned by society and religion that it's wrong. That your life came from some entity beyond you and you're breaking some sort of rule by taking it it into your own hands.

 

[hopelessgirl]

Death is Natural, happens to every thing in this universe People die Animals die Stars die and someday this Planet will die too why fear something that is Natural? it will happen anyways we did not exist 200 years ago and we will stop existing someday my death is close and im not longer in fear i want to experience the next level soon

I totally agree with you on this :-) helps me a lot to accept ctb

I'm not really afraid of a natural old age death. I'm afraid of choosing my own death, for some reason.

Me too. But if you think of it the other way: if you're not scared of your natural death, why should you be scared of your chosen one? What's the difference really? A natural death might also be painful, someone pointed out to me. And that helped me accept ctb more. So choosing your own death can even be less painful than a natural one, and at least you can control it.

 

[Ta555]

I totally agree with you on this :-) helps me a lot to accept ctb

Me too. But if you think of it the other way: if you're not scared of your natural death, why should you be scared of your chosen one? What's the difference really? A natural death might also be painful, someone pointed out to me. And that helped me accept ctb more. So choosing your own death can even be less painful than a natural one, and at least you can control it.

I agree with you. Natural death can definitely be horrible and painful but at a certain point assured and if you're terminal, more and more countries are starting to legalise assisted suicide so you know you'll definitely die. With CTB, there's so much fear (especially on this forum) about things going wrong and you ending up worse off than you were. That's the difference I think. You're doing it yourself and afraid you'll botch it. A natural death you can't escape, only speed it up if you've got a terminal illness and can be assured you will definitely die especially if you have access to assisted suicide.

 

[Dr Iron Arc]

Fear of the unknown. I bet a lot fewer people would be scared of death even if we knew for sure that there was nothing to experience after death. Nobody alive today can actually say for sure what actually happens to your consciousness and so the fear that the process itself could hurt or that our individual minds will be judged based on how we lived can be enough to create fear in most people.

Oh yeah, and our DNA is screaming at us to survive because otherwise it won't be as likely to get the chance to spread itself.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

Me too. But if you think of it the other way: if you're not scared of your natural death, why should you be scared of your chosen one? What's the difference really? A natural death might also be painful, someone pointed out to me. And that helped me accept ctb more. So choosing your own death can even be less painful than a natural one, and at least you can control it.

True. I guess I'm just afraid I'll end up in a hell-type place. I've never been religious but standing at the edge of my life really has my brain working overtime about this stuff.

 

[Hercules]

People fear death because, they fear the unknown. No one knows for certain what happens after we die. We don't know if death is really the end, or if there is some type of afterlife. No one who has died has ever come back to tell us what happens. If we knew for certain that death was really the end, or that our consciousness can survive, and we knew what the afterlife was like, we probably wouldn't fear death so much. We might even look forward to it. Most likely, death is nothing to fear, but because we don't know what happens after death, our mind starts imaging the worse case scenieros.

 

[hopelessgirl]

I agree with you. Natural death can definitely be horrible and painful but at a certain point assured and if you're terminal, more and more countries are starting to legalise assisted suicide so you know you'll definitely die. With CTB, there's so much fear (especially on this forum) about things going wrong and you ending up worse off than you were. That's the difference I think. You're doing it yourself and afraid you'll botch it. A natural death you can't escape, only speed it up if you've got a terminal illness and can be assured you will definitely die especially if you have access to assisted suicide.

Yeah that's true. Also when you're terminally ill you probably have people around you to help you through your death...

True. I guess I'm just afraid I'll end up in a hell-type place. I've never been religious but standing at the edge of my life really has my brain working overtime about this stuff.

For our sake... I just don't think that's very plausible. But we all need to figure out how to rationalise the thought of death.

 

[Darkover]

at best we have 190 years to get off this planet or be left in the ruins of civilization due to resource depletion, most people want to live forever but unfortunately most likey end up as nothing forever, hence why all the religions in the world promising eternal afterlife.

 

[raghu1977]

Everyone wants to go to heaven. Just not today.

Or tomorrow for that matter

 

[Darkover]

Everyone wants to go to heaven. Just not today.

Or tomorrow for that matter

not me i just want to be nothing for all time

 

[Kristicide]

I'm not really fearful. While I'm alive I'm in physical pain. When I sleep, for example, I don't feel my physical pain bc I'm not conscious of it. So death brings me some relief from that.

 

[AtlasMik12]

Because we've been conditioned by society and religion that it's wrong. That your life came from some entity beyond you and you're breaking some sort of rule by taking it it into your own hands.

You just really opened my eyes with your comment ❤

 

[Seiba]

It would be natural for me to get my balls sliced open by a lion and then eaten. I'm still not exactly fond of that happening. It's natural to have protective instincts towards yourself even if you logically disagree with them. I also don't generally fear being dead, it's the dying process and committing that is hard.

 

[FuneralCry]

I do not fear death personally, in my case, I only fear this life. When you are dead you are incapable of suffering and it is the end to all pain. I actually look forward to death and of course there is no point to fearing death as it is inevitable. All we are doing is waiting around to die anyway, life is just a pointless experience that we go through for the sake of it. I believe that many people fear death as this existence is all we know and we cannot comprehend what it would be like to be dead. All I want is to fall into an eternal dreamless sleep, being alive hurts me.

 

[whatevs]

Fear of death is what we are at an essential level as living organisms. But it can be overcome, some people have proven it

 

[justtiredofit]

Part of me used to be afraid of death thanks to religious nutters when I was young. Now, I'm not afraid of death, but am afraid of failing another attempt. Especially when by all accounts, my attempt 2 months ago should have worked.

 

[Eternity]

Yes death is natural, but suicide isn't. Humans are programmed to survive (SI). Therefore it's natural to fear ctb/death, I think.

 

[Death is beautiful]

Part of me used to be afraid of death thanks to religious nutters when I was young. Now, I'm not afraid of death, but am afraid of failing another attempt. Especially when by all accounts, my attempt 2 months ago should have worked.

may I ask what the method it was

 

[Gustav Hartmann]

Death is natural, fear of death is natural too, but I am not sure whether suicide is natural. On the other hand, everything that happens is natural. But this truth dosn´t help me to overcome my fear of death and my survival instinct.

 

[Ta555]

You just really opened my eyes with your comment ❤

Eey, glad to help. And I'm still in the process of getting rid of this conditioning myself!

 

[Dear Agony]

Survival instinct. You do not fear it, your body does. It's your most essential and strongest instinct.

 

[MyStateKilledMe]

Survival instinct. You do not fear it, your body does. It's your most essential and strongest instinct.

I never had it. Not as a child, not now. In fact, I wanted to die since I was 6. When bullies said to me "I'm going to kill you!", my immediate thoughts were "can I trust you to do it instantly?", as opposed to "please don't".

What I did fear was pain while CTB'ing and punishments for failing to do so. My methods of choice as a child consisted of knives, bleach, and high-rise buildings or bridges; but those are painful methods with a probable survival rate. Which means two things: (1) pain, and (2) getting in trouble with my super-strict parents. I was more scared of pain and punishments than I was of death. I was left with no choice but to wait until adulthood, when I'd have access to firearms and such.

 

[Shu]

I'm not sure if killing ourselves is considered natural...

 

[AnestheticVoid]

I'm not sure if killing ourselves is considered natural...

I think animals do commit suicide. For example this quote on why animals don't commit suicide in and of itself proves it is suicide.

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However, that's not to say animals do not, on occasion, die in mysterious ways that may appear to mimic suicide. If an aquatic animal extricates itself from its watery environs, for example, that can look an awful lot like suicide to the untrained eye.


But experts tend to attribute such strandings to factors like sickness, injury, old age or loss of navigation."

So when an animal does seem to die because of its own actions it seems to be attributed to the very reasons humans seem to ctb. Hmm.

 

[YourNeighbor]

We fear all sorts of things that are natural, there is nothing illogical in that. Ebola is natural--who wants it?

And we only have one life to live, so most fear losing it. It's all we have after all, and without it there is no chance of experiencing any of the wonders of the universe. I could see accepting death after a full life, but it doesn't seem I will get that far--all that's left in the meantime is to cherish every moment as much as possible, and be grateful for it. I expect to end it when things get unbearable, but I dread that moment.

 

[Chiisai]

I'm not really afraid of a natural old age death. I'm afraid of choosing my own death, for some reason.

I find this relatable.