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asleepforever

asleepforever

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Sep 16, 2024
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i've been seeing a psychologist and a psychiatrist for three years now, i also have tried lots of meds and been to a mental hospital, anyways i think i haven't change nothing, i even feel more and more anxious and depressed and i've tried everything to "feel better" like going to the gym, sleep well, go out, meet more people, etc, i decay more every day, idk if therapy its a waste of time and money or if i don't have a cure
 
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Apr 28, 2024
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I think a large part of it depends on whether someone's depression is chemical vs situational, with the latter being further complicated by whether it's been a few isolated bad situations vs constant ones. No treatments work for me because horrible things continually happen in my life, despite all the treatments I have tried. None of them can prevent constant new trauma occurring.
 
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L9 CHOCOIRL

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i've been seeing a psychologist and a psychiatrist for three years now, i also have tried lots of meds and been to a mental hospital, anyways i think i haven't change nothing, i even feel more and more anxious and depressed and i've tried everything to "feel better" like going to the gym, sleep well, go out, meet more people, etc, i decay more every day, idk if therapy its a waste of time and money or if i don't have a cure
some poeple dont like therapy for obvious reasons (i personally wouldnt like talking about my personal situations to someone one on one)
and medications dont work for everyone either coz everyone experiences meds in a different way and have preferences to feelings that they like. most meds will make you feel weird for quite a while until you get used to it and as you said sometimes can make you feel worse
 
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I agree with other people- that therapy may not be able to change a person's situation enough. Can we really learn to just accept all the bad stuff? Plus, it can't give a person purpose. Other than some vague hope they'd like to feel better. That feels too vague to work towards, to me.

Sometimes, I wonder if our negative coping mechanisms are also just too compelling to release entirely. Take someone who self harms. Presumably, if they are going to therapy, it means they recognise that is probably not the best coping mechanism. So, if they continue to still do it- why? It surely must be because it still gives them something that therapy doesn't. The same goes I suppose for ideation and negative thinking. I suppose it just feels more comforting to some of us. So, do we trap ourselves sometimes? A diet won't work if we refuse to stop eating chocolate cake.

Plus conversely, it can't make us enjoy an activity. I got the impression during my brief stint with therapy and meds that- they were there to get me back on track. The meds would hopefully raise my mood and energy enough for me to engage with nicer life stuff or at least, endorphin producing life stuff, which would then- in theory, take over. I guess that in theory, ought to be happening with your gym sessions. It sounds like you're doing it all right. I can understand the frustration when it doesn't work.

For me, my 'saving grace' was always being creative. I went to a few therapy sessions and did one course of fluoexetine- to no effect. The moment I received a new creative project to do, I felt much better and, dropped both!

I think probably both therapy and meds are copes, rather than cures. For a cure, I suppose we genuinely need to want to engage with (healthy) things in life (again.)

I suppose individually though, we can only know ourselves. What is it you want in life? Have you felt unhappy for a long period or, is it recent? Did things bring you joy in the past? When and why do you think it changed? I think we probably need to use therapy to reach a further goal of some sort- rather than it being the destination itself. That's my feeling anyway.

I feel it wouldn't work for me because I've lost faith/ enthusiasm/ interest in my goals. Plus, I'm not willing to put myself through a whole bunch of discomfort to (only possibly) reach a better place. It hasn't worked in the past. Why would it work this time? I think that's another reason too. Repeated failures can mean we have less faith in it to begin with.
 
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May 31, 2024
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It's flawed to think that there's always a solution, i guess.
 
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karakoltriste

I hate psychiatry
Apr 30, 2025
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Because they treat collective problems (poverty, trauma from violence, discrimination, etc) as individual problems. Medication, in my opinion, isn't there to help us, but to silence us or make us fit into society. For example, the theory that a lack of serotonin causes depression is unproven (in fact, it was invented by a pharmaceutical company), yet they still prescribe medications that end up harming our bodies. The same thing happens with theories about dopamine deficiency (ADHD) or excess, and all that "chemical imbalance" talk; simply nothing is proven, no one tests us for serotonin or whatever. What needs to change is the system; they need to stop abusing us; it's not us who need to change.

For more information on this, I recommend reading Focault, Antonucci (these two also talk about our right to suicide/euthanasia), and Jud Chamberlin. I also recommend reading about mad pride.
 
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