Why do so many fail using SN method?

[ihatepain]

Were there people here that successfully died using SN method? Any confirmed deaths? Just wondering because I see so many failed attempts using SN.

 

[Thanatos]

Hard to confirm but yes theres been likely deaths from SN. Most failures are a result of vomiting or being found

 

[MeltingHeart]

From the reaction of the ambulance people on the phone and in person-when mine got taken -it must be pretty frickin dangerous-they made me go to the hospital and have all these tests just from opening the packet and lightly smelling it and saying it is dangerous to everyone in the house!- where i had opened it ( though I of course I think that was a slight over reaction) but I did over heard them describing to my to my step mum-how it reacts in the body if ingested-and I did think f**kin hell this shit is for real-for some reason it was the first time-i realised how this stuff works- IRL- not just reading things online but hearing a paramedic describe what it does to the body. They all freaked out around me so much-that gave me palpitations as it was!

Many people do it and are found early like 15 mins after

what peeps on here you mean?

 

[JimFord99]

Were there people here that successfully died using SN method? Any confirmed deaths? Just wondering because I see so many failed attempts using SN.

The SN method is likely to fail if -as said above - the person taking it is being found or if the method is used incorrectly. Most makes mistakes choosing the most suitable location or leaving unnecessary hints behind where they are going to do it. SN method is not a rush job.

 

[welshie84]

The failures are from being found , not the method itself.

 

[blackflag1]

The SN is guaranteed if you do not not throw up and if you are not found. If you are not found for over an hour, it will succeed. I personally do not know of anybody being revived past 45 minutes after consumption.

 

[ihatepain]

The SN is guaranteed if you do not not throw up and if you are not found. If you are not found for over an hour, it will succeed. I personally do not know of anybody being revived past 45 minutes after consumption.

Has anybody ever thrown up the SN even after taking meto?

 

[woxihuanni]

Has anybody ever thrown up the SN even after taking meto?

Well, if somebody throws up to the degree of failure even after the meto regimen, then they'd fail with N as well. Since the risk of failure with SN at least does not involve shooting face off, breaking your back, etc., I suppose it is optimal anyway. There is of course also the hanging variants, but they have more failure rate and damage possibility.

 

[Belter]

The SN is guaranteed if you do not not throw up and if you are not found. If you are not found for over an hour, it will succeed. I personally do not know of anybody being revived past 45 minutes after consumption.

Well you havent looked hard enough there is quite a few medical papers with a quick google search that reveals a few people surviving greater than a hour after ingestion

 

[Neville1]

Were there people here that successfully died using SN method? Any confirmed deaths? Just wondering because I see so many failed attempts using SN.

According to EI six deaths have been monitored. Among forum members there are half dozen confirmed with obits and news reports and a few more by second hand accounts. Many more have said to be taking it and not returning. There's a list in the thread below. It's very lethal.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/members-attempting-with-sn-success-failure.22018/#post-409199

Has anybody ever thrown up the SN even after taking meto?

Two taking stat dose of meto vomited violently.

Edit: Some are prone to vomiting for whom no oral method is appropriate.

 

[ihatepain]

According to EI six deaths have been monitored. Among forum members there are half dozen confirmed with obits and news reports and a few more by second hand accounts. Many more have said to be taking it and not returning. There's a list in the thread below. It's very lethal.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/members-attempting-with-sn-success-failure.22018/#post-409199

Two taking stat dose of meto vomited violently.

Why did they vomit? Did they do anything wrong?

 

[snowman626]

If You vomit do you need to go to hospital or will you recover on your own automatically? Also is there a way to ger that meth blue antidote thing and have it by your side while taking sn just in case you change your mind if it gets painful

 

[blackflag1]

Well you havent looked hard enough there is quite a few medical papers with a quick google search that reveals a few people surviving greater than a hour after ingestion

Personal experience only. Definitely not all inclusive. I do deal with a field where I see the cases at times. It is becoming more common.

If You vomit do you need to go to hospital or will you recover on your own automatically? Also is there a way to ger that meth blue antidote thing and have it by your side while taking sn just in case you change your mind if it gets painful

You still may pass if you vomit. It depends on how much of a dose reaches your bloodstream and begins converting your hemoglobin. Methylthionium chloride will kill you in the same way if you get the antidote dose wrong. The best bet is not to take SN unless you are sure you want to CTB. Everyone I know of that was successfully revived due to being found reported seeing everything going blacker until they were out. Reported feeling peaceful and without pain. The pain comes after being revived. Headache and lack of energy for a bit.
Before anybody asks, yes you can purchase methylene blue, but it costs more than sodium Nitrite. Sodium Nitrite also works better as well. Even the dose used to revive an SN victim changes there sclera from white to a light blue. It is not a permanent affliction. I imagine that if somebody used it to commit suicide at the dose required, they may be quite discolored beyond the usual pallor and cyanotic look of death.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

Well, if somebody throws up to the degree of failure even after the meto regimen, then they'd fail with N as well. Since the risk of failure with SN at least does not involve shooting face off, breaking your back, etc., I suppose it is optimal anyway. There is of course also the hanging variants, but they have more failure rate and damage possibility.

Wait, does N make you throw up?

Personal experience only. Definitely not all inclusive. I do deal with a field where I see the cases at times. It is becoming more common.

You still may pass if you vomit. It depends on how much of a dose reaches your bloodstream and begins converting your hemoglobin. Methylthionium chloride will kill you in the same way if you get the antidote dose wrong. The best bet is not to take SN unless you are sure you want to CTB. Everyone I know of that was successfully revived due to being found reported seeing everything going blacker until they were out. Reported feeling peaceful and without pain. The pain comes after being revived. Headache and lack of energy for a bit.
Before anybody asks, yes you can purchase methylene blue, but it costs more than sodium Nitrite. Sodium Nitrite also works better as well. Even the dose used to revive an SN victim changes there sclera from white to a light blue. It is not a permanent affliction. I imagine that if somebody used it to commit suicide at the dose required, they may be quite discolored beyond the usual pallor and cyanotic look of death.

Do you happen to know how painful the urge to vomit after taking SN is? I hate the feeling of having to throw up

I probably can't get meto due to logistical constraints I'm under, so my plan is to take a "lesser" anti-emetic in the hopes that it will at least do something

I will fight the urge to vomit for as long as possible (not interested in doing that to a torturous amount), and have a second glass handy in case I do throw up

My hope is that enough gets absorbed by that time that I'll die

I hope also it's not a brutal urge to throw up because that sort of defeats much of the purpose of it being a painless method

 

[Lastsauce]

Do you happen to know how painful the urge to vomit after taking SN is? I hate the feeling of having to throw up

There are several cases of vomiting even on the recommended anti-emetics reported on the forum so you might want to reconsider sn.

 

[Ἡγησίας]

Wait, does N make you throw up?

Do you happen to know how painful the urge to vomit after taking SN is? I hate the feeling of having to throw up

I probably can't get meto due to logistical constraints I'm under, so my plan is to take a "lesser" anti-emetic in the hopes that it will at least do something

I will fight the urge to vomit for as long as possible (not interested in doing that to a torturous amount), and have a second glass handy in case I do throw up

My hope is that enough gets absorbed by that time that I'll die

I hope also it's not a brutal urge to throw up because that sort of defeats much of the purpose of it being a painless method

If you suffer from emetophobia or simply you dislike very much the act of vomiting (like I do) I strongly recommend you to search for a different method. Even if you take antiemetics meds there is a big chance to throw up. I know this information first hand because I was talking with a friend during her attempt (successful) and despite doing a 72 hours regimen she vomited violently 20 minutes after drinking the SN solution. And it's not the only known case in the forum.

This is just some info you should take in consideration, I don't pretend to scare you.

 

[afabulous40]

What if you take way over the recommended end of life dose? I would think if you vomited then you'd still be successful in ending your life?

 

[Ἡγησίας]

What if you take way over the recommended end of life dose? I would think if you vomited then you'd still be successful in ending your life?

if you manage to keep it down enough time to incorporarte into your blood stream (15 minutes approx) it wouldn't matter if you throw it up, the poison will make its work. That's the point of using antiemetics, to avoid gauge reflex after drinking SN. No need to increase the dose over the recommended (20-25gr), it would be counterproductive.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

If you suffer from emetophobia or simply you dislike very much the act of vomiting (like I do) I strongly recommend you to search for a different method. Even if you take antiemetics meds there is a big chance to throw up. I know this information first hand because I was talking with a friend during her attempt (successful) and despite doing a 72 hours regimen she vomited violently 20 minutes after drinking the SN solution. And it's not the only known case in the forum.

This is just some info you should take in consideration, I don't pretend to scare you.

My ideal method would have been a gunshot but that's out for me now

I guess a more truly ideal method might be N or an overdose on some extremely pleasurable drug but that's not exactly in the cards for me

If I had a lot of money and a better awareness of how to acquire certain things (without going to prison) I might plan a more pleasant release for myself but this'll have to do

The rebreather seems okay, if I could prevent the bag on my chest from feeling like an incubus or something

The Sarco seems cool enough

I think actually carbon monoxide poisoning seems pretty cool, if dangerous to others, and otherwise not practical to me in my current situation

Cyanide perhaps although I hear very mixed things about that (never sure how much to believe or what is meant to scare me, and obviously a diffused/diluted gas of hydrogen cyanide over like 18 minutes a la WWII seems infinitely harsher than a capsule)

 

[S1mpleme]

Were there people here that successfully died using SN method? Any confirmed deaths? Just wondering because I see so many failed attempts using SN.

As I can see they failed just because someone found them and called 911 (or they called themselves). SN itself is dangerous and without ambulance you can't save your life.