Pro choice and antinatalism go hand in hand. Also wrong, it's not that SOME suffer. EVERY SINGLE LIVING BEING suffers at one point even though some have it better than others.
Also a point I forgot to mention in my first reply to you is that we got to the conclusion that some have happy, fulfilling lives that makes them wanna live and some who are the opposite. But isn't this unfairness enough reason to not procreate? You really want to bring let's say 5 beings into this world just for 1 to be possibly happy? Idk, I wouldn't take that gamble.
Also in a world where euthanasia would be available why would antinatalism be useless? Just so that someone who's born into this world do a lot of effort just to make themselves go back from where they came from?
Ah yes, it's only the modern times, because medieval times probably were some utopia shit. /s
Edit: how about adoption tho? Why take the gamble and bring more people into this world for a slight chance of turning out happy when you can take in your care someone who already exists and who'd be happy receiving love, warmth and care. Or maybe, something it's not the same something like with a biological child something something?
I think the difference here is that im thinking of it in the bigger picture. Antinatalism would essentially lead to extinction - it goes more in hand with promortalism than pro choice suicide. Further more it is the complete opposite of pro choice suicide.
To my understanding,
Antinatalism = everyone suffers so we must prevent all of this suffering by ending our species via ceasing to reproduce. Eliminating humanity over time to prevent any pain
Pro choice suicide = people do suffer and some suffer incredibly more than others so there should be the choice to opt out.
Also yes everyone suffers, but most people also have great experiences that they believe make it "worth" it. In general id say most people live to experience, to exist, to be conscious, and that is more important to them over their suffering. Many people live miserably but still dont want to kill themselves simply because of their survival instinct, which is the only objective goal of humans, not to end pain
It is an emotional perception to believe that because pain is bad everything should end - emotional perspectives are natural and i dont mean to shame them, but imo they shouldnt lead the world.
Personally looking out and seeing all the people in the world having fun and experiencing things while i cant makes me feel better about the world on a cosmic scale, as then i know how insignificant my pain really is and there is always something else going on.
I do believe more people should be adopting tho - for one we're overpopulated we can handle it, and for two all the kids in orphanages already exist