Why do people feel threatened by suicidal people?

[gloriatrillo]

It has happened two times in my life that when I was at my absolute worst and about to ctb that people told me they felt "threatened" by me. I didn't even voice being suicidal to them, so it was no emotional blackmail or anything like that. They felt the energy and projected it upon themselves, even though it was all about what I want to do to myself. This accusation makes me so angry because when I ask them what they felt threatened by or what it is that I said that constitutes a threat, they can't give me an answer. I never said anything threatening or that was shifting blame towards them, I was just in my feelings and they probably anticipated my desperation.
But it's totally unfair to establish this whole threatening narrative when there never was an outspoken threat. It just makes me sound dangerous and manipulative, when I really wasn't.

How is being in severe pain a threat to others?

 

[OnlyTheWind]

A sudden disturbance in their delusion of what life is meant to be. They don't want to be in any kind of proximity to a potential suicide. Not even knowing someone who is suicidal. They'll probably have nightmares now.

 

[slyna]

They don't feel threathened. They feel scared.
Your behaviour and thoughts about killing yourself scares people shitless.

You wanna know why? Because it automatically makes them endangered. THEY risk falling in the same thought patterns.
Thats what they're scared of. So they ostrasize you. They make the easiest choice for themselves. Cut you off. Cause you are a hindrance to THEIR survival.

You're welcome.

 

[quakociaptockh2]

Because they know you're right.

I noticed it when I spoke with all the people I asked.

If it happened to them, they wouldn't make it. They're just glad that it happened to you, now they want you go away so they can enjoy their lives.

 

[KuriGohan&Kamehameha]

Chuds like that might as well be wearing permanent blinders. I'm sorry you have to deal with these people who are trying to twist your pain into something malicious.

I think they have a very warped perception of what a suicidal person is like. I blame the health industrial complex for acting like the solution to suicidality is locking suffering individuals away in the psych ward as if they are prisoners, infantalizing them and depriving the individual of all bodily autonomy and freedom.

Often time violent criminals do get institutionalized if they plead insanity or have history of mental ailments. Getting lumped in with those people in a mental hospital only reinforces the cultural stigma that "suicidal people are crazy evil insane and are the same as those who intentionally cause others harm, because they wish to harm themselves."

It's like they see you as a deranged person who can no longer think clearly or make autonomous decisions once you unveil your disdain for life. It's irrational, but it is a conviction that a good number of normies possess. This belief only serves to further harm suicidal people though.

By creating these outlandish stereotypes like "the impulsive, mentally ill person who isn't thinking clearly" and the "emotionally manipulative attention seeking BPD woman" they wash their hands of all responsibility in their maltreatment of the suicidal. They think they are justified, because now you've been demonized and pathologized simply for sharing your pain. Especially if you are chronically suicidal.

I think deep down many of them are just scared and don't know what to say or do. So it is easier for them to make wild accusations like labelling suicidal people as dangerous rather than stop and think about the suffering that person must be enduring. Contemplating that life can truly be horrendous for so many is a pill that most are unwilling to swallow.

I hope you have better people in your life now who will not treat you this way.

 

[FuneralCry]

I think it is because of the stigma towards those who are suicidal. Those who haven't been through it themselves will never be able to comprehend what it is like. I think many people dismiss suicidal people as always being irrational as they are in denial of the fact that life can get that bad that people want to leave this world.

 

[settheory]

They are trying to manipulate you, abuse you, playing the victim, lying. Classical tactic. Better not fall for it.
They are doing it because of their evil abrahamic (judeo-islamo-christian) cultural superstitions. Even most irreligious people (at least in abrahamic cultural sphere) are still shackled by them because it is so deep in culture.

 

[nopointofliving]

Once I told someone I'm suicidal, he started distancing himself from me. it hurts me a but when I thought about it deeply , I realized that I reminded him of his dark side , that's why he ran away.

 

[slyna]

Once I told someone I'm suicidal, he started distancing himself from me. it hurts me a but when I thought about it deeply , I realized that I reminded him of his dark side , that's why he ran away.

Lol. That's not why he left you.. Read my comment..

Also, it's about fear of "defeat" and fear of "being lesser" than everyone else.. We are a herd animal, RULED by group mentality.

Anything that goes against LIFE and LIVING is DETRIMENTAL and the herd/group WILL eradicate this behavior...

LIVING THINGS LIKE TO LIVE.

(except enlightened people realize life is ihenerently wrong and that suicide ultimately, is a logic move)

 

[nopointofliving]

Lol. That's not why he left you.. Read my comment..

Also, it's about fear of "defeat" and fear of "being lesser" than everyone else.. We are a herd animal, RULED by group mentality.

Anything that goes against LIFE and LIVING is DETRIMENTAL and the herd/group WILL eradicate this behavior...

LIVING THINGS LIKE TO LIVE.

I shared what I thought, and you did share how you viewed it. That's good.

 

[slyna]

I shared what I thought, and you did share how you viewed it. That's good.

Each to their opinion, I'm just trying to open your eyes because I know you don't want to see it.

 

[nopointofliving]

Each to their opinion, I'm just trying to open your eyes because I know you don't want to see it.

It's good your eyes are opened, and this is enough! wish you the best!

 

[Pure]

Nobody likes or cares about suicidal people until after we suicide. In life it's like "" we're bringing darkness to other people!!" even if we're just existing. I guess that makes sense, nobody likes depressed people as we inevitably end up draining happiness from the room if we're not good at pretending to be normal.

I wouldn't mind the social exclusion if they weren't so hypocritical about it. It's "I can't be with you because you're too depressed and it makes me anxious" and then when we kill ourselves it's "such a tragedy. She/he had such a promising life. How selfish of them to hurt their family and friends". Fuck off.

I have more respect for social darwenists who'll just admit they see life suricial of the fittest, just the mentally upset kill themselves and stop draining resources vs the fake woke signaling libs and leftists like to do.

 

[sadbadpsychogirl]

a lot of "normal" people associate suicidality with being homicidal.

 

[slyna]

It's good your eyes are opened, and this is enough! wish you the best!

Now I understand your friend. Nvm

 

[Deepjoy]

Great thread everyone loved reading it and sooooo many truths.I can relate to that behaviour this evening just 30 mins ago.well done people

 

[pole]

like others have said, i think people get overwhelmed when dealing with someone that has mental health troubles.

they never know how to approach and handle the situation, don't know what's best to say, and then feel it's best to refrain from and keep distance from the person, not knowing that's the worst thing you can do to someone wanting to kill themselves.

 

[fox_wannabe]

You wanna know why? Because it automatically makes them endangered. THEY risk falling in the same thought patterns.
Thats what they're scared of. So they ostrasize you. They make the easiest choice for themselves. Cut you off. Cause you are a hindrance to THEIR survival.

They might even have had thoughts like these on their own, deeply buried in denial. But yeah survival is the top priority. To survive is to lie to oneself.

 

[slyna]

They might even have had thoughts like these on their own, deeply buried in denial. But yeah survival is the top priority. To survive is to lie to oneself.

Exactly. Living is perverse.

 

[OnlyTheWind]

This is why surviving an attempt scares me. I don't want to make my existence even more awkward around the normies.

 

[mossyfox]

because if you tell people, now they think if they say or do something wrong and you happen to kill yourself around that time, that they were the one who caused your suicide. they are terrified of being the one who 'pushed you over the edge'. And because they are afraid of feeling that way and afraid of potentially feel guilty if that did happen, they push out those feelings onto you and blame you for making them feel that way.