Why did sasu got so anti social?

[Terrible_Life]

Why is there so less interaction as if 90% of the users who were here when I made my account have killed themself?

So many sad emotional posts from people in terrible conditions get ignored 0 responses nothing but then so often I see so stupid bullshit posts which get lots of attention.

When I joined here I thought this is the place you wanna be when you're suicidal instead of calling a suicide hotline where the person talks like a Roboter with the same phrases all the time I thought here people who understand the struggle with being suicidal help each other talk with each other but honestly its not like that. I tried to find help here or i should better say i tried finding a place where I'd feel better to be with people who go through the same but instead I realized even here I feel completely lonely.

All in all I regret spending so much time here I should've listened to first few users here who told me this place won't
Really help you or change anything for you. I would have also learned the information about hanging without an account. It was such a waste of time here really.

 

[itsgone2]

I consider you a friend. We dm a lot but just wanted to publicly put this here, maybe hope to spur some conversation.
I'm guessing some other users may feel the same.

 

[SpanishLullaby]

I personally think there are many "fake" posts getting ignored.

Yet the poster thinks theyre being smart and crafty enough to "fit in".

At least thats my take on it... so many "infiltrators"...

 

[Terrible_Life]

I personally think there are many "fake" posts getting ignored.

Yet the poster thinks theyre being smart and crafty enough to "fit in".

At least thats my take on it...

You know what I sometimes thought? That some pro lifers made some fake accounts here to make the site worse and worse so more and more people will log off…..

 

[SpanishLullaby]

You know what I sometimes thought? That some pro lifers made some fake accounts here to make the site worse and worse so more and more people will log off…..

YEP!!!!...you got it.

Destroy from the inside out!


I LITERALLY just mentioned this to the mods.


At least if they were gonna join. Be real and be a real friend to people. Instead of coming with a fake agenda. What a waste of someone's time. Both people.

 

[hopelessgirl]

You know what I sometimes thought? That some pro lifers made some fake accounts here to make the site worse and worse so more and more people will log off…..

I had this thought too

 

[Terrible_Life]

I consider you a friend. We dm a lot but just wanted to publicly put this here, maybe hope to spur some conversation.
I'm guessing some other users may feel the same.

You are definitely a good person and a friend for me too. You were there in some horrible moments and I am very thankful for that. You always did your best to help. I can put our conversations to the good aspects here.

 

[paradox_panic]

You know what I sometimes thought? That some pro lifers made some fake accounts here to make the site worse and worse so more and more people will log off…..

Sometimes I think the same thing. Some posts make me wonder lol.

 

[Terrible_Life]

I had this thought too

Yes I mean isn't it weird especially those who simply bully suicidal people or write bullshit like oh its just temporary or they movk people hey why didn't you stop him so many phrases I know from that suicidie hotline etc.
i mean one thing i was very sure about back when i found. Sasu and read those articles i am very sure that here are definitely undercover reporters etc who might just act friendly to find some "content" to write another article criticizing sasu or making a YouTube video about it and go viral….lots of humans suck they do think and handle like this unfortunately

 

[metfan647]

I personally think there are many "fake" posts getting ignored.

Yet the poster thinks theyre being smart and crafty enough to "fit in".

At least thats my take on it... so many "infiltrators"...

What do you mean by "fake" posts? As in posters who talk about plans without intention of ever carrying it out?

 

[SpanishLullaby]

There is one person I believe is a GOOGLE AI...I dare NOT say any usernames!!!

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What do you mean by "fake" posts? As in posters who talk about plans without intention of ever carrying it out?

As in NOT suicidal at all. A pretender... a fake person trying to entrap others or generate / coax conversations to get data so they can snapshot the post and say "AHA!!!" gotcha!!!

Many somehow think there is a fake back door and if they get cool enough, someone will start handing out SN packets to everyone like Ketchup and then they can report how HORRIBLE this site is.

 

[Terrible_Life]

As in NOT suicidal at all. A pretender... a fake person trying to entrap others or generate / coax conversations to get data so they can snapshot the post and say "AHA!!!" gotcha!!!

Absolutely I feel the same way but those I chatted with privately they all seemed to have a tough painful life so I believe them but then there were so weird responses sometimes when I posted here that I really thought okay its probably a dude from suicide hotline or maybe a psychology student who came here to "save" people but they don't know much worse they make everything with phrases like:

-its just a temporary problem
-get up go for a walk
-go seek "help" go to a therapist or hospital
-oh you suffer because of ocd and wanna ctb no no instead you need professional help

And so many other nonsense

 

[metfan647]

There is one person I believe is a GOOGLE AI...I dare NOT say any usernames!!!

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As in NOT suicidal at all. A pretender... a fake person trying to entrap others or generate / coax conversations to get data so they can snapshot the post and say "AHA!!!" gotcha!!!

Many somehow think there is a fake back door and if they get cool enough, someone will start handing out SN packets to everyone like Ketchup and then they can report how HORRIBLE this site is.

Pfft I couldn't care less. I mentally filter out two thirds of the content here in any case. I'm more bothered by the careless posts with mimimal effort put it. There are not enough dialogues here, just selfish disjointed monologues. The amount of people who are actually in crisis and share intimate and/or personal details in great length only to get a "I aM wOrSE BrUh".

 

[SpanishLullaby]

Absolutely I feel the same way but those I chatted with privately they all seemed to have a tough painful life so I believe them but then there were so weird responses sometimes when I posted here that I really thought okay its probably a dude from suicide hotline or maybe a psychology student who came here to "save" people but they don't know much worse they make everything with phrases like:

-its just a temporary problem
-get up go for a walk
-go seek "help" go to a therapist or hospital
-oh you suffer because of ocd and wanna ctb no no instead you need professional help

And so many other nonsense

Some are weird, etc. but I believe that many more are a faking. Hoping to become a trusted person in some larger suicide circle somewhere in their minds.

So many posts set off my radar when I read I dont even bother giving them an emoji.

I suspect the emoji givers are also leary and just being kind / giving the user the benefit of the doubt.



I remember one person saying thats why they hate emojis people should talk. But taking away the emoji doesn't solve that problem. Theres a trust issue here.


Im sure the enemies of the site are high-fiving as we type.




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The amount of people who are actually in crisis and share intimate and/or personal details in great length only to get a "I aM wOrSE BrUh".

I think thats youth and selfishness personally (which I affiliate with youth) If you havent fully grown up and experienced a balanced world its hard to be truly reciprocal.

 

[Gravand]

"You're all faking sadness and suicidal ideation" Idk, I kinda doubt there is a massive conspiracy going on here. Isn't it somewhat natural that people don't interact much but instead ramble into the void? Taking on more burden while you already feel like you can't carry the burdens you're already carrying is tough, helping others is often tough. Anyway I would be happy if there was more of a community thing going on but idk how to connect with anyone tbh, same as real life maybe haha

 

[Blueberry Panic]

This forum isn't supposed to change your life or magically make everything better , people come on here to find resources to be able to recover or to ctb. And yeah honestly I'd say about 70 to 90 percent end up ctb... it's a sad reality of what this forum is about.

 

[SpanishLullaby]

Everytime I imagine how prolifers view this forum this ridiculous Martin "cult" episode comes to mind.

 

[Terrible_Life]

This forum isn't supposed to change your life or magically make everything better , people come on here to find resources to be able to recover or to ctb. And yeah honestly I'd say about 70 to 90 percent end up ctb... it's a sad reality of what this forum is about.

but people here do postings where they write about their suffering and they want at least some sort of help by an interaction that takes place interaction they can't have with their family etc but instead so many people who wrrite about all their pain get fully ignored whilr other bullshit stuff gets attention. Then i wonder then what is the purpose of this place? When you wanna interact about nonsense go to a normal forum go to reddit or whatever.
Yes in case of finding. Information it helped me but otherwise sasu just let me feel even more lonely
I didn't expect a magic pill here but I thought when lots of people have this one things in common the wish to end their life they might feel
For each other and support each other but thats not the case

 

[YandereMikuMistress]

You know what I sometimes thought? That some pro lifers made some fake accounts here to make the site worse and worse so more and more people will log off…..

Fucking christ really, shit makes me upset like having religion shoved down are throats we also have PRO LIFERS

 

[badatparties]

A lot of people are emotionally exhausted and can't really console everyone who posts a sad story on here.

 

[SpanishLullaby]

but people here do postings where they write about their suffering and they want at least some sort of help by an interaction that takes place interaction they can't have with their family etc but instead so many people who wrrite about all their pain get fully ignored whilr other bullshit stuff gets attention. Then i wonder then what is the purpose of this place? When you wanna interact about nonsense go to a normal forum go to reddit or whatever.
Yes in case of finding. Information it helped me but otherwise sasu just let me feel even more lonely

I cant fully speak to this but I also think there is a small issue with personality type compatibility as well. Many people fall into the "misunderstood" category for some reason or other; and if someone has not had a similar life experience its hard to relate.


I rarely interact in regular "normal" social circles for this reason so I'd expect this problem to amplify on a small self selective suicide site. However maybe thats possibly a small minority of people here.

 

[Blueberry Panic]

but people here do postings where they write about their suffering and they want at least some sort of help by an interaction that takes place interaction they can't have with their family etc but instead so many people who wrrite about all their pain get fully ignored whilr other bullshit stuff gets attention. Then i wonder then what is the purpose of this place? When you wanna interact about nonsense go to a normal forum go to reddit or whatever.
Yes in case of finding. Information it helped me but otherwise sasu just let me feel even more lonely
I didn't expect a magic pill here but I thought when lots of people have this one things in common the wish to end their life they might feel
For each other and support each other but thats not the case

Not everyone is able to interact constantly with others when they know that one of them might try to ctb at anytime... people only have so much they can take mentally. I've lost so many friends on here and each time I see a post about someone wanting a interaction I do my best to help but I'm constantly ghosted or they end up ctb soon after.
Interactions with new users usually feel like a failed endeavor ... it's the people who stick around and actually communicate that make this forum run.
And just because people make post about something that you might see as "nonsense" doesn't mean they see it the same way. Not everyone knows every little thing about suicide or understand how this forum works fully until they've been on for a few months.

 

[SpanishLullaby]

A lot of people are emotionally exhausted and can't really console everyone who posts a sad story on here.

I definitely believe this to be the case where posters who actually ARE genuine are not getting a response. Thanks for this....

 

[Quietist]

There is also the issue of not knowing who actually wants help/advice, and who just wants to vent.

Sometimes people here just in the mindset of "misery loving company" - they want people to affirm what they already think, or commiserate.

Others, once in a while, want actual advice, and not everyone is equipped to give advice.

When everyone here is dealing with their own brand of suffering, you can't expect them to have the capacity of a therapist or a suicide hotline operator.

 

[whosready4tmrw]

I've definitely seen what you're talking about. I think it's in the nature of this site to eventually lose users.

This isn't a place for people to stick around, they talk until they get better or ctb; anything else would just be miserable.

 

[badatparties]

I've definitely seen what you're talking about. I think it's in the nature of this site to eventually lose users.

This isn't a place for people to stick around, they talk until they get better or ctb; anything else would just be miserable.

Lot's probably just stop posting and disappear without doing either.

 

[SpanishLullaby]

Then there is the ridiculous sensationalist post... made by some ridiculous tweener thats "just having fun."

 

[itsgone2]

this post got a lot of replies at least.
Maybe it can help to spare some more discussion when people are reaching out for help.

I do wonder about fake accounts sometimes, but I think you can usually tell who just wants someone to talk to versus who's looking for us to provide information. Or at least frame it as encouragement.

 

[Whale_bones]

There is also the issue of not knowing who actually wants help/advice, and who just wants to vent.

Sometimes people here just in the mindset of "misery loving company" - they want people to affirm what they already think, or commiserate.

Others, once in a while, want actual advice, and not everyone is equipped to give advice.

When everyone here is dealing with their own brand of suffering, you can't expect them to have the capacity of a therapist or a suicide hotline operator.

This. People are here for a huge amount of different reasons, there's many many different life factors that can lead someone to consider CTB. It's not a personality type, so people will inevitably have different styles of communication. A therapist is trained to only say certain things and respond in certain ways, but here, people are (for the most part) just being genuine in their responses.

That means they're not always going to give the "right" kind of response or support. Some people want others to affirm what they already think of themselves, even if it's negative. Then there's people who are the exact opposite, they want to hear reasons why they don't have to think of themselves this way.

Both types of people exist here, and there's often no way to know which is which beforehand. I've gotten snapped at for trying to be supportive/validating and just engaging with someone who asked for responses, and when that happens, I don't keep replying, I move on to something else.

I think the off-topic or fun posts get more responses because they're easy to engage with, you don't have to worry about saying the wrong thing. And when people are already feeling bad, sometimes a lighter subject is easier to handle. It doesn't mean people think those posts are more important.

 

[martyrdom]

I think the idea that there's some great conspiracy and people are infiltrating the site because they hate suicidal people and want them to suffer the horrible fate of potentially getting better is so out of touch with reality