Method Why aren’t opioids/nitazenes talked about more?

[justwannadip]

So I know that its not the most accessible method, as one would have to either go on the DNM or streets to get it, but why isn't fentanyl and other synthetic opioids like proto talked about more on here? At this point its much easier to get than N, but N is still talked about more here. From what I've read, it seems F and nitazenes are peaceful and lead to rapid unconsciousness and at high doses are almost certain to cause respiratory failure and death. Is there something I'm missing? Is it just that there's not a lot of research on it being used to ctb? Or is it just the lack of accessibility? If it was as accessible as SN, would it have the same appeal?

 

[UKscotty]

Not much more to add on the subject I guess?

You inject enough opioids and you die. There is not much more to it than that is there?

 

[vitbar]

Suspect legality. Don't completely get it myself. Always known people involved in the scene. Makes the idea less daunting.

 

[m4rius]

In short, because people don't want to go on WhatsApp and message Chinese sellers for nitazenes. A person may be afraid of customs too, although it's quite rare and you can easily dismiss it from my experience.

Still, I agree since it's not that much different from buying SN off a site. I got a bunch of stuff from Chinese sellers off Chinese websites you can access. Sometimes it's a scam, sometimes it's real. So that's another concern, scamming.

No need to go to any dark web market tho.

 

[vitbar]

Having thought more it's also because of needles I think. The whole process puts some off I'd bet. It's why you get so many messages asking about snorting, eating, and boofing. People wanting to know why they aren't seen as good methods.

 

[Not A Fan]

I looked into various RCs for awhile but I'm not apt with the darkweb, and too afraid of getting scammed, packages intercepted, etc. It seemed like it would have been cool a few years before so much stuff started getting banned. The RC reddit is full of people complaining about how much the market sucks now. It seems like that ship has sailed. Instead I'm stuck with a pile of deadly street drugs that I'm totally immune to... the irony. If these nitazenes were more accessible to a US purchaser, I'm sure we would be interested.

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

there isn't any where i currently live. at least none i know of. i'd have to take a long flight back to the states and hobble past all the zombies and figure out which one the dealer is. then there is the question of how much to buy (they don't really know what they're selling). saw a lot of videos on it though... so many different reports. some said that it was 5 bucks a pill and others say that their habit costs 1200 per day. do i really want to whip out a grand in front of all the criminals? hoping for liver failure and/or lung cancer. plus i wouldn't know how to iv it either.

anyone know someone in china? that'd be a much shorter flight. are there any opioid problems there?

 

[Not A Fan]

there isn't any where i currently live. at least none i know of. i'd have to take a long flight back to the states and hobble past all the zombies and figure out which one the dealer is. then there is the question of how much to buy (they don't really know what they're selling). saw a lot of videos on it though... so many different reports. some said that it was 5 bucks a pill and others say that their habit costs 1200 per day. do i really want to whip out a grand in front of all the criminals? hoping for liver failure and/or lung cancer. plus i wouldn't know how to iv it either.

anyone know someone in china? that'd be a much shorter flight. are there any opioid problems there?

I heard China just passed, or is about to pass, a large blanket ban on several research chemicals. Might become a lot harder to source anything there now. List of Chems Banned in China on July 1st 2024

 

[ham and potatoes]

So I know that its not the most accessible method, as one would have to either go on the DNM or streets to get it, but why isn't fentanyl and other synthetic opioids like proto talked about more on here? At this point its much easier to get than N, but N is still talked about more here. From what I've read, it seems F and nitazenes are peaceful and lead to rapid unconsciousness and at high doses are almost certain to cause respiratory failure and death. Is there something I'm missing? Is it just that there's not a lot of research on it being used to ctb? Or is it just the lack of accessibility? If it was as accessible as SN, would it have the same appeal?

yeah, i agree with ya. SN seems like a pain to get anyways, probably no harder than using the DNM to get something like F thats actually not going to be miserable.
good write up on DNM access here

 

[Justnotme2]

There is absolutely no fentanyl in my country.
And I will not buy nitesens from Chinese sellers. I do not know any reliable Chinese sellers and I do not want to receive rat poison or anything else in the mail that will make my death painful, since I do not know at all what nitazenes actually look like and how they should feel in the body

 

[Fakefriendhate_Maxx]

Tried it with high purity heroin no4. Didn't work, even with big amounts and without having opioid tolerance... (I snorted it.)
I asked the same question to me before i tried it...
Conclusion: Opioids and Opiates ae dangerous and can lee to death. But they're not as reliable as other methods/as one might think.
Dunno how the case is with highly potent opioids like Fent or Nitazenes... ?!

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

awww no fenny in portugal yet and they are re criminalizing drugs in portland. never good news.

 

[sash]

Instead I'm stuck with a pile of deadly street drugs that I'm totally immune to... the irony.

Yeah, same here except prescribed...

 

[justwannadip]

I looked into various RCs for awhile but I'm not apt with the darkweb, and too afraid of getting scammed, packages intercepted, etc. It seemed like it would have been cool a few years before so much stuff started getting banned. The RC reddit is full of people complaining about how much the market sucks now. It seems like that ship has sailed. Instead I'm stuck with a pile of deadly street drugs that I'm totally immune to... the irony. If these nitazenes were more accessible to a US purchaser, I'm sure we would be interested.

So the DNM is unreliable now? So nitazene method is off the table? Ig theres rlly nothing peaceful i can try. Maybe the nitrogen method but the setup seems too complex. I was rlly hoping nitazenes was possible. I mean what are the odds u get booked for it? Dont dnm sellers take careful care in sending these things so they don't get caught?

 

[Not A Fan]

So the DNM is unreliable now? So nitazene method is off the table? Ig theres rlly nothing peaceful i can try. Maybe the nitrogen method but the setup seems too complex. I was rlly hoping nitazenes was possible. I mean what are the odds u get booked for it? Dont dnm sellers take careful care in sending these things so they don't get caught?

I can't provide any direct testimony regarding the dark web. I've never tried to use it. I'm sure there are still vendors, but it will probably be much harder to find what you want, the price will be much higher, and if the wrong product arrives (or doesn't) you have no recourse. Since I am the guy who "never expects anything to work out," the dark web just always seemed like a good place to get scammed. But this view could be the result of my complete ignorance! Who knows. I don't gamble either, even if the odds seem good.

Not to mention you have to wait anxiously for 2 months to see if anything even shows up, then the whole process of getting everything lab tested, etc etc. Big old tank of N2 and classic bag setup are much easier to obtain here, and for an opioid-tolerant person, I feel much more confident about than using a drug.\

There are others who may swear by the dark web. I've just never known anyone personally have success there. check out the research chems reddit. ALOT of information on there. but they don't help with sourcing. no one does. thats kinda the problem, though I understand why they dont obviously.

 

[Esokabat]

I would certainly buy some nitazenes if there would be a known reliable online seller. However with no solid reputation built up, it is currently impossible to tell scam from real.

 

[Cress]

So I know that its not the most accessible method, as one would have to either go on the DNM or streets to get it, but why isn't fentanyl and other synthetic opioids like proto talked about more on here? At this point its much easier to get than N, but N is still talked about more here. From what I've read, it seems F and nitazenes are peaceful and lead to rapid unconsciousness and at high doses are almost certain to cause respiratory failure and death. Is there something I'm missing? Is it just that there's not a lot of research on it being used to ctb? Or is it just the lack of accessibility? If it was as accessible as SN, would it have the same appeal?

Primarily speaking you have to inject it In high amounts into your bloodstream to have any type of Realistic chance of it working. I suspect This isn't very appealing to a lot of people the idea of using needles in their method unless they were already familiar with doing drugs like that. There is also the issue of trying to acquire it as it's closely monitored as people do all sorts of drugs recreationally. People don't generally do suicide recreationally though.

Also getting prescribed Opioids in pill and oral From a doctor or something Which is the legal way to acquire it dramatically drops your chance of success. Even if you drink a bunch of alcohol and take opioids the chance of success is probably two or three percent. It's not a very reliable method orally.

 

[justwannadip]

Primarily speaking you have to inject it In high amounts into your bloodstream to have any type of Realistic chance of it working. I suspect This isn't very appealing to a lot of people the idea of using needles in their method unless they were already familiar with doing drugs like that. There is also the issue of trying to acquire it as it's closely monitored as people do all sorts of drugs recreationally. People don't generally do suicide recreationally though.

Also getting prescribed Opioids in pill and oral From a doctor or something Which is the legal way to acquire it dramatically drops your chance of success. Even if you drink a bunch of alcohol and take opioids the chance of success is probably two or three percent. It's not a very reliable method orally.

Isn't only a small amount of fentanyl enough to die? How much would you need to inject?

 

[Cress]

Isn't only a small amount of fentanyl enough to die? How much would you need to inject?

The amount you would need to inject depends on your tolerance and height and body weight. However I'm talking about there being a low chance when you take it orally because you can only take so much before your stomach gets upset and you vomit it all up. None of that really matters if you inject it.