Discussion Why are people talking so much about methods and research?

[imissmycat]

I saw a post about someone being "embarrassed" that they haven't picked a method nor done any research about how to CTB. It made me feel like some people treat this forum, and the larger "pro-choice community", the same way they treat Instagram.

All over the place people are proclaiming their plans, methods, research, etc. I don't understand what good it does for them. A suicide note, a final angry rant at humanity, that I can understand.

When I first had the strong urge to CTB (as opposed to just thinking about it or planning it), now almost ten years ago, I picked a way based on my existing knowledge. I did look at a few studies later and found out that it's one of the most foolproof ways. Never thought about it again. It's there if I need it, never changed, never told anyone. Why would I tell anyone how I intend to CTB? Why do people talk about it so much? Is it posturing or cries for help?

I decided to put this in Recovery because I did not want to offend nor argue with the people in Suicide who are writing this kind of stuff. Also, I recovered from my urges some years ago, though slightly relapsing recently.

 

[Life_and_Death]

All over the place people are proclaiming their plans, methods, research, etc. I don't understand what good it does for them.

without reading any examples,
maybe sometimes it is something like Instagram where they feel they have to be "good enough". the way some people can be judgmental or its already engrained, i cant exactly blame them.
in other cases it might be stress. just trying to get the pressure off their chest and out of their head.
and probably some other things i didnt/cant think of.

 

[Grimpoteuthis]

There can be multiple factors. Sometimes it is the need for reassurance of the plan, sometimes it is the desire to connect to others with similar plans, and sometimes it functions as a formal announcement to yourself that you will finally carry it out.

 

[lita-lassi]

writing stuff down helps organize, validate and connect. it would be nice if people spent 3 seconds reading instead of posting the 50th sn thread of the day asking the same 3 questions thatve been answered endlessly, but i guess everyone wants their own thread about it

 

[skizm]

i think it has a lot to do with the giant risks that go with a failed attempt for example bodily harm like braindamage or social aspects like incarceration, so people want to hear other opinions on their chosen method.
from my own perspective, i have a lot of fear when i finally attempt that something goes wrong so i can understand why people want to get external input in their decision

 

[msesis]

I saw a post about someone being "embarrassed" that they haven't picked a method nor done any research about how to CTB. It made me feel like some people treat this forum, and the larger "pro-choice community", the same way they treat Instagram.

All over the place people are proclaiming their plans, methods, research, etc. I don't understand what good it does for them. A suicide note, a final angry rant at humanity, that I can understand.

When I first had the strong urge to CTB (as opposed to just thinking about it or planning it), now almost ten years ago, I picked a way based on my existing knowledge. I did look at a few studies later and found out that it's one of the most foolproof ways. Never thought about it again. It's there if I need it, never changed, never told anyone. Why would I tell anyone how I intend to CTB? Why do people talk about it so much? Is it posturing or cries for help?

I decided to put this in Recovery because I did not want to offend nor argue with the people in Suicide who are writing this kind of stuff. Also, I recovered from my urges some years ago, though slightly relapsing recently.

Well for me, the first two methods I thought of turned out to be ineffective once I learned more on Sasu. My first instinct was to go by VSED. I thought since being alive requires so much effort, if I stop putting in any effort, including eating, I must die, right? Turns out there's a really low success rate and apparently the SI is unbearable.

Then I thought about cutting, which apparently also is terrible.

So now I know about SN. Which means I need to find a source. Which they've made almost impossible in my country. But thanks to this site I did end up finding some sources. So it was helpful after all.

If VSED or cutting had been effective methods, I would not have needed to post anything, probably. Now I kind of enjoy conversing with others to pass the time as well.