Who’s watching this site?👀

[prbreese01]

So I'm guessing there are people scrolling through this site who aren't depressed or suicidal. There's probably people who are looking for red flags or some other reason for being here. But I'm wondering if there are any clinical professionals out there who have really taken the time to read some of these threads. And if there are, is there any insight that you've gained from this website? I feel like this community really helps in providing a closer and REAL look into the struggles of depression and suicidal ideation….I don't know what my point is or where I'm going with this.

 

[FuneralCry]

No I'm sorry but our suffering isn't something for people to analyse. People here just want to die and others should just get over that fact. It's not a good idea encouraging people to do what you mentioned, it's disrespectful and also it's not a good look posting a clickbait thread title to purposely make others feel more paranoid. I understand that some people really want some attention, but still, my point remains.

 

[Rational man]

You make interesting points. I believe the authorities, media monitor us. I also believe that i have been in contact with religious representatives through this site. I would like to think that responsible observers depart their ' ivory ' towers and see how life is a struggle in so many ways. I dont necessarily connect depression to ctb feelings. For example, im physically ill and im looking to the authorities to help me die in the end, by way of compassion and not persecution which is how i feel now.

 

[UKscotty]

I am sure many people read the page all day, police, social workers, students, doctors, psychiatrists, reporters etc

We are approaching 2m posts and are one of the three main suicide sites globally, its bound to get a lot of attention from many people. I think its only a good thing, we raise awareness of consent for adults to decide their own fate.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I expect there are people looking at sites like this. I actually hope there are therapists etc. reading posts here. If I were in that profession- I would see places such as this as a good resource for seeing how people REALLY feel and talk uninhibited.

I personally believe that not ALL people who have suicidal ideation are destined to go through with it. I also get the impression that a lot of the 'help' out there isn't very effective. Partly because suicide isn't talked about openly. I think at least seeing sites like this might make them think about how they would engage with people if there was enough freedom to be as open as we are here. Preferably not with a bunch of platitudes! That's assuming they care... I suppose my fear is that the ones who are (perhaps) the most ineffective likely don't care all that much. So- why would they take their work home with them?

As for journalists and research students- I would LOVE it if some took a different type of approach rather than: Take down this dangerous death cult website immediately.

I suspect law enforcement are on here to watch for any coercion. (Which mercifully- there is next to none.) You wanna try mainstream media for that guys! Far more bullying goes on on those platforms. Still- I expect they are looking to shut down illegal sources too.

I don't personally see it as a bad thing that non members can lurk. Still- to be honest (and I know this isn't a popular opinion,) it does trouble me that very young children might be able to access a site such as this. I know that's the nature of the internet and I know the information is available elsewhere though.

 

[western_heart]

Recent thread- 'They have done a thesis talking about this forum'
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/they-have-done-a-thesis-talking-about-this-forum.106893/

I wonder if any of the researchers secretly have accounts on this site. It would probably be against their rules to participate even to the extent of signing up though? Just guessing

 

[http-410]

I don't think "normal" people like doctors, therapists or authorities have the time and interest to be here. Why should they? Legally, their hands are tied. What do they care what any random suicidal people write in a forum? I certainly think that some police have become aware of this site as a result of suicides that have taken place, but I doubt very much that there is any task force anywhere that consists of reading along in this forum. The way I've met therapists, they pay a lot of attention to their mental hygiene, and wouldn't hang out on sites like this.

Since results in search engines have been censored more and more often I suspect that people are specifically looking for suicide topics in the search engines. Most who come here will probably have a valid reason.

I assume that most lurkers are sufferers themselves, looking for methods, topics about their illness/symptoms or treatment options. Some people wait a long time before registering, if at all. Among the lurkers there may be relatives, as well as people who are here for a voyeuristic reason. Certainly there are also journalists and readers of their articles. Not to forget the numerous search engine bots (which is ironic when the search results are censored).

 

[Wannagonow]

I expect there are people looking at sites like this. I actually hope there are therapists etc. reading posts here. If I were in that profession- I would see places such as this as a good resource for seeing how people REALLY feel and talk uninhibited.

I personally believe that not ALL people who have suicidal ideation are destined to go through with it. I also get the impression that a lot of the 'help' out there isn't very effective. Partly because suicide isn't talked about openly. I think at least seeing sites like this might make them think about how they would engage with people if there was enough freedom to be as open as we are here. Preferably not with a bunch of platitudes! That's assuming they care... I suppose my fear is that the ones who are (perhaps) the most ineffective likely don't care all that much. So- why would they take their work home with them?

As for journalists and research students- I would LOVE it if some took a different type of approach rather than: Take down this dangerous death cult website immediately.

I suspect law enforcement are on here to watch for any coercion. (Which mercifully- there is next to none.) You wanna try mainstream media for that guys! Far more bullying goes on on those platforms. Still- I expect they are looking to shut down illegal sources too.

I don't personally see it as a bad thing that non members can lurk. Still- to be honest (and I know this isn't a popular opinion,) it does trouble me that very young children might be able to access a site such as this. I know that's the nature of the internet and I know the information is available elsewhere though.

I would also be very okay with therapists lurking around here. I agree that therapists and mental health professionals might see how well it can work when people are free to express their true feelings, thoughts and fears without consequences. Do I think therapists lurking here will change the face of healthcare for us- unfortunately no. But it may cause some of them to reflect and in the future possibly help a few of us, and that would be progress. I share your thoughts on very young children (not young adults folks) having access to this site. I don't really share that opinion much here. I have a hard time with confrontation- especially on this site which is supposed to be a safe place to express feelings. Thanks for your post.

 

[martinso67]

I am sure many people read the page all day, police, social workers, students, doctors, psychiatrists, reporters etc

We are approaching 2m posts and are one of the three main suicide sites globally, its bound to get a lot of attention from many people. I think its only a good thing, we raise awareness of consent for adults to decide their own fate.

TIL there are other boards like this site. I hope I can find them. I like pro choice or suicide sites that are not that mainstream like this one.
But I still appreciate this site thought, it shows more people that having suicide wishes is not because of being only mentally ill and you solve that by therapy.

 

[blackwidow]

I think it would be a blessing if they analyse this site. Maybe one day they will gain an understanding into people that just want to die.. And give us the tools so to speak to peaceful do so.

 

[resolutory]

I am sure many people read the page all day, police, social workers, students, doctors, psychiatrists, reporters etc

We are approaching 2m posts and are one of the three main suicide sites globally, its bound to get a lot of attention from many people. I think its only a good thing, we raise awareness of consent for adults to decide their own fate.

Out of curiosity, are you able to say what the other two are? (I'd like to know just in case SS goes down somehow.) It's okay if not though, I understand.

 

[ImpairedLowlife]

We are approaching 2m posts and are one of the three main suicide sites globally, its bound to get a lot of attention from many people.

What are 2 other sites? Can you dm them to me?

 

[tchaik18401893]

Not sure, but there might be. Even if there are, I doubt they make accounts.

 

[prbreese01]

No I'm sorry but our suffering isn't something for people to analyse. People here just want to die and others should just get over that fact. It's not a good idea encouraging people to do what you mentioned, it's disrespectful and also it's not a good look posting a clickbait thread title to purposely make others feel more paranoid. I understand that some people really want some attention, but still, my point remains.

I'm sorry you feel that way and I definitely did not intend to make anyone feel paranoid with the thread title. You're definitely entitled to your opinion but i don't appreciate your tone. I come here to feel understood and to learn and possibly find something that helps me crawl out of this hole that I've been stuck in for years. I don't know you and you don't know me but I'd say that you're the one who really wants attention. I'm just here seeking support whether I'm having a good or bad day.

 

[Shu]

No I'm sorry but our suffering isn't something for people to analyse. People here just want to die and others should just get over that fact. It's not a good idea encouraging people to do what you mentioned, it's disrespectful and also it's not a good look posting a clickbait thread title to purposely make others feel more paranoid. I understand that some people really want some attention, but still, my point remains.

In your mind and idea of reality people here "just want to die" but not everybody that visits SaSu just "wants to die"

For example, @Rational man forgot to mention Scammers & Predators
I was actually told I needed to stop "making people paranoid"
It's hilarious because not everyone has our best interest in mind and I think that people should be aware of that, especially in a place like this.
This is a terrible example but if one of my friends were selling weed or something and I knew that the cops were watching him I'm going to tell him. I'm not just going to be like "well that might make him paranoid, maybe I shouldn't tell him"
Just like coming across the guy who was trying to meet up with people to shoot them in the head. Hadn't we investigated a little further, people could have potentially got hurt. They still could have got hurt we have no idea. He could have made another account. Has nothing to do with trying to make people paranoid. It has to do with trying to make people aware, just in case

 

[hellispink]

Believe me when i say, no one cares about us. No one cares about what we do or need. If they did we wouldn't be here. Even if we dissapear no one will notice here or elsewhere. They will post it in news and hold a funeral but two days later its over for them. So no need for paranoia. Of course there is gossipers and judgers everywhere in the internet but its not because they care, they just lack a hobbie

 

[FuneralCry]

I'm sorry you feel that way and I definitely did not intend to make anyone feel paranoid with the thread title. You're definitely entitled to your opinion but i don't appreciate your tone. I come here to feel understood and to learn and possibly find something that helps me crawl out of this hole that I've been stuck in for years. I don't know you and you don't know me but I'd say that you're the one who really wants attention. I'm just here seeking support whether I'm having a good or bad day.

I don't really understand this comment, it doesn't make much sense in the context of the thread. My comment wasn't about you but just the content of your original post, there is just the fact that if people create threads like this they will likely receive criticism. I get that some people are fixated on how other people view this site, but the fact is that not everyone does and some people don't want to encourage non suicidal people to come on here to analyse the site.
The thought of that I can imagine will be off putting for many who just want somewhere to vent and be open about being suicidal.

If you are here to seek support then I doubt that you are going to receive it in a thread like this, I think that most people who want support usually make threads venting about their suffering and things like that. And also if you want to find something that helps you then you are better off asking about it in the recovery section, rather than posting in the suicide one, I don't think that you will find what you said that you are looking for by posting threads like this.

And also, I'm only here just as a way to pass the time for my own sake, not 'attention'. You are clearly very ignorant and I know that you are just bitter because you received criticism on a public forum, but you don't really have any right to say things like that, you know nothing. I don't care about what others write on here, it means nothing to me and my posts are usually just venting and sharing my views, I'm not looking for support or some kind of reaction, and I just meant that it seems attention seeking when people create threads with titles like that, I never said that you are not a genuine member here for genuine reasons, and I never claimed to know anything about you. But the fact is that this particular thread isn't really 'seeking support' and I was just commenting honestly on a public forum.

 

[Rainy_days]

Them.

 

[prbreese01]

I don't really understand this comment, it doesn't make much sense in the context of the thread. My comment wasn't about you but just the content of your original post, there is just the fact that if people create threads like this they will likely receive criticism. I get that some people are fixated on how other people view this site, but the fact is that not everyone does and some people don't want to encourage non suicidal people to come on here to analyse the site.
The thought of that I can imagine will be off putting for many who just want somewhere to vent and be open about being suicidal.

If you are here to seek support then I doubt that you are going to receive it in a thread like this, I think that most people who want support usually make threads venting about their suffering and things like that. And also if you want to find something that helps you then you are better off asking about it in the recovery section, rather than posting in the suicide one, I don't think that you will find what you said that you are looking for by posting threads like this.

And also, I'm only here just as a way to pass the time for my own sake, not 'attention'. You are clearly very ignorant and I know that you are just bitter because you received criticism on a public forum, but you don't really have any right to say things like that, you know nothing. I don't care about what others write on here, it means nothing to me and my posts are usually just venting and sharing my views, I'm not looking for support or some kind of reaction, and I just meant that it seems attention seeking when people create threads with titles like that, I never said that you are not a genuine member here for genuine reasons, and I never claimed to know anything about you. But the fact is that this particular thread isn't really 'seeking support' and I was just commenting honestly on a public forum.

I'm ignorant? Honestly, I think you should take a long hard look at yourself because it sounds like you're projecting. Like I said, you don't know me, don't know what I've been through and how I feel on a constant basis.
Why are YOU here? What brought you to such despair and why the need to comment on other peoples posts if you're just going to be nasty? I'm all for venting but do it on your own posts.

 

[Anonymus]

To answer the question, in my case I've never wished to be here at all, and I've always found the thought of non existence to be something comforting and ideal, even when I was very young. And I believe that once I got a bit older, I started to think about suicide in response to these feelings. In my case wishing for suicide is the natural and expected reaction to just existing in this world and being aware of what life is. Life really isn't for me in any way, I don't see such a thing as being beneficial, instead it's only something harmful and tiring and I simply don't want to suffer at all.

How far do you remember from your childhood? I ask because I made a very big change from the age of 5 to 6, that's when I decided, voluntarily, to isolate myself socially (although I had schoolmates and talked to them normally).

It's not that I want to psychoanalyze you, forgive me if you feel it's an intrusion on my part. It's just that it suddenly occurred to me at school that once we reached the age of 14 many people in my class did not remember the day we entered when we were 5 years old, nor did they even remember "things" that had happened and that they had changed their way of being (just as it happened to me).

I've always been worried about where my fear of everything comes from, because when I was two years old I had it every day (and my mother says that when I was born I didn't have it). But I don't remember what happened to me that made me so afraid as a child, before the age of two.

//

Fins quan recordes de la teva etapa de la infància? Ho pregunto perquè jo vaig fer un canvi molt gran dels 5 als 6 anys, va ser llavors quan vaig decidir, voluntàriament, aïllar-me socialment (tot i que tenía companys d'escola i parlava amb ells amb normalitat).

No es que et vulgui psicoanalitzar, perdona'm si sents que és una intrussió per part meva. És només que em va sobtar a l'escola que un cop arribats als 14 anys molta gent de la meva classe no s'enrecordava del día que vem entrar quan teniem 5 anys, ni tan sols s'enrecordaven de "coses" que havien passat i que havien fet modificar la seva manera de ser (al igual que em va passar a mi).

A mi sempre m'ha preocupat d'on em ve la por a tot perquè amb dos anys recent complerts ja la tenía present cada día (i ma mare diu que quan vaig néixer no la tenía pas). Però no m'enrecordo que em va passar que em fes agafar tanta por de ben petit, abans dels dos anys.

 

[thereisthemist]

mist
pffff obviously


funny how you mentioned those with actual powers can be lurking here at this moment, for them, mist huggies ~
genuine seeking for truth and order eliminate the need to have "a purpose" to join a suicide forum, but those who do come here just because of jobs or ideologies, mist feel sincerely sorry

 

[prbreese01]

How far do you remember from your childhood? I ask because I made a very big change from the age of 5 to 6, that's when I decided, voluntarily, to isolate myself socially (although I had schoolmates and talked to them normally).

It's not that I want to psychoanalyze you, forgive me if you feel it's an intrusion on my part. It's just that it suddenly occurred to me at school that once we reached the age of 14 many people in my class did not remember the day we entered when we were 5 years old, nor did they even remember "things" that had happened and that they had changed their way of being (just as it happened to me).

I've always been worried about where my fear of everything comes from, because when I was two years old I had it every day (and my mother says that when I was born I didn't have it). But I don't remember what happened to me that made me so afraid as a child, before the age of two.

//

Fins quan recordes de la teva etapa de la infància? Ho pregunto perquè jo vaig fer un canvi molt gran dels 5 als 6 anys, va ser llavors quan vaig decidir, voluntàriament, aïllar-me socialment (tot i que tenía companys d'escola i parlava amb ells amb normalitat).

No es que et vulgui psicoanalitzar, perdona'm si sents que és una intrussió per part meva. És només que em va sobtar a l'escola que un cop arribats als 14 anys molta gent de la meva classe no s'enrecordava del día que vem entrar quan teniem 5 anys, ni tan sols s'enrecordaven de "coses" que havien passat i que havien fet modificar la seva manera de ser (al igual que em va passar a mi).

A mi sempre m'ha preocupat d'on em ve la por a tot perquè amb dos anys recent complerts ja la tenía present cada día (i ma mare diu que quan vaig néixer no la tenía pas). Però no m'enrecordo que em va passar que em fes agafar tanta por de ben petit, abans dels dos anys.

I've been trying to figure out what may have caused my suicidal ideation as well. For a long time I thought I was depressed due to a chemical imbalance because that's what I was told. I actually now think all my issues are due to emotional neglect and lack of socialization as a kid.

 

[lionetta12]

I expect there are people looking at sites like this. I actually hope there are therapists etc. reading posts here. If I were in that profession- I would see places such as this as a good resource for seeing how people REALLY feel and talk uninhibited.

I personally believe that not ALL people who have suicidal ideation are destined to go through with it. I also get the impression that a lot of the 'help' out there isn't very effective. Partly because suicide isn't talked about openly. I think at least seeing sites like this might make them think about how they would engage with people if there was enough freedom to be as open as we are here. Preferably not with a bunch of platitudes! That's assuming they care... I suppose my fear is that the ones who are (perhaps) the most ineffective likely don't care all that much. So- why would they take their work home with them?

As for journalists and research students- I would LOVE it if some took a different type of approach rather than: Take down this dangerous death cult website immediately.

I suspect law enforcement are on here to watch for any coercion. (Which mercifully- there is next to none.) You wanna try mainstream media for that guys! Far more bullying goes on on those platforms. Still- I expect they are looking to shut down illegal sources too.

I don't personally see it as a bad thing that non members can lurk. Still- to be honest (and I know this isn't a popular opinion,) it does trouble me that very young children might be able to access a site such as this. I know that's the nature of the internet and I know the information is available elsewhere though.

My therapist go on suicide forums sometimes he told me and he's familiar with the nature of it due to his clients.

 

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

For example, im physically ill and im looking to the authorities to help me die in the end, by way of compassion and not persecution which is how i feel now.

I understand the persecution - despite obvious physical illness. It's barbaric- I'm so sorry.

May I ask— Is palliative care an option you are seeking?

UK seems to reserve that for prognosis of terminal of 6 months or less ?

 

[Rational man]

I understand the persecution - despite obvious physical illness. It's barbaric- I'm so sorry.

May I ask— Is palliative care an option you are seeking?

UK seems to reserve that for prognosis of terminal of 6 months or less ?

The problem is im in uncharted territory due to autoimmune dysfunction. The rarity means research about something that hasnt been labelled is limited and time scales have.limited data. The best.way to describe my disease is degenerative, failing nerve system. I take a new medication that reduces painful neuropathy . So im not palliative.but nether is someone with cancer unless timescales we more understood. Thanks for your concerns, as you too live with pain too.

 

[TimetoGo!]

I am sure many people read the page all day, police, social workers, students, doctors, psychiatrists, reporters etc

We are approaching 2m posts and are one of the three main suicide sites globally, its bound to get a lot of attention from many people. I think its only a good thing, we raise awareness of consent for adults to decide their own fate.

One of three main sites? What are the other two?

 

[rationaltake]

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/prepare-to-be-on-youtube.107459/

This site is definitely watched. He says on the video that he set up an account got information from the site and purchased a certain substance.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Rest assured, all postings are being watched and read. Depending on where you are from, and what you say in posts, by saying too much, or going over the line, you could put yourself in legal jeopardy. Giving a little too much "assistance" to others could get you there. Just throwing that out there FWIW.