dandan

dandan

One more attempt on life.
Feb 18, 2019
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I am holding N that expires on March 2020

I am going through recovery, with help of testosterone and dianabol I feel great.

But I lack almost-completely the ability to make money.

I have a decent paying job, but Im still living paycheck to paycheck.

I am not good at my job, and I will keep trying to get better, but in case I dont, I dont know what else I would do.

What im trying to say, is even I do "feel" fine, I lack the ability to make a living, therefore I am still considering using N.

I wanted to ask, who holds N that expires on March?

Are many people using it? Would many people use it?

I dont know what I could do to earn a living, living paycheck to paycheck is not very comfortable.... specially when you are afraid of loosing to a job...and not getting a future decen paycheck.... dammm

any comments, suggestions are welcomed!!
 
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Oyoy

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At least you work I am not getting out of bed or using punctuation
 
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dandan

dandan

One more attempt on life.
Feb 18, 2019
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At least you work I am not getting out of bed or using punctuation
oh yes Oyoy,
plus I feel good, thanks to TEsto and Dianabol
dont get me wrong. I am superb, better than ever I could say,
except the fucking fear about my economic future is very very dark
because how could I survive? how do you feed yourself?
I wont go back home with my parents.

So, yes I work, and I have a very good job actually, if I could be certain I would keep it for the rest of my life good, but my inferior capacity is starting to showoff, and we know what happens to poor performance employees....

I dont want to live paycheck to paycheck.... specially when I couldve been a fucking multi-millionaire easily....

from what I read: you say something like: "hey at least you are not as fucked up, as I am"
and I can reply: Why are you still alive? what are you holding on too?
I was holding on to the idea that if I get better I could make a good life, but I am starting to contemplate the idea that I might be fucked up and wont make it, even feeling good.
So im contemplating suicide. (but I will stop contemplating it soon, i only need to find a way to make money, but I have been searching and I really dont know how I will do it)
 
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Oyoy

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Feb 2, 2020
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oh yes Oyoy,
plus I feel good, thanks to TEsto and Dianabol
dont get me wrong. I am superb, better than ever I could say,
except the fucking fear about my economic future is very very dark
because how could I survive? how do you feed yourself?
I wont go back home with my parents.

So, yes I work, and I have a very good job actually, if I could be certain I would keep it for the rest of my life good, but my inferior capacity is starting to showoff, and we know what happens to poor performance employees....

I dont want to live paycheck to paycheck.... specially when I couldve been a fucking multi-millionaire easily....

from what I read: you say something like: "hey at least you are not as fucked up, as I am"
and I can reply: Why are you still alive? what are you holding on too?
I was holding on to the idea that if I get better I could make a good life, but I am starting to contemplate the idea that I might be fucked up and wont make it, even feeling good.
So im contemplating suicide. (but I will stop contemplating it soon, i only need to find a way to make money, but I have been searching and I really dont know how I will do it)
Your smarty pants will get you far. I don't mind living off a small amount of cash. Having money is no guarantee for a good life. Be proud of yourself cuz you care if your "good"a your job. Xoxo
 
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dandan

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Your smarty pants will get you far. I don't mind living off a small amount of cash. Having money is no guarantee for a good life. Be proud of yourself cuz you care if your "good"a your job. Xoxo
I dont know if I'll get far... its nice of you to say it though.... thanks...
im contemplating suicide and you speak the polar opposite..... =D thanks man... makes me doubt, which is good...
 
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Oyoy

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Feb 2, 2020
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I dont know if I'll get far... its nice of you to say it though.... thanks...
im contemplating suicide and you speak the polar opposite..... =D thanks man... makes me doubt, which is good...
You have no idea how special you are. Don't deprive others of your intelligence!
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
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I would use it after the expiration date for sure. A doctor told me years ago that many medications are good years after the expiration date, with only small changes in chemical composition. Perhaps you could google the breakdown/composition change of N?
 
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needaplan

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Jan 31, 2020
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I read here that it is good for 2 years after expiration, when sealed and in a dark place as well as that it is a stable chemical.
If you don't want it anymore, I'll take it :hug:
 
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NextBusLeaving

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Jun 24, 2019
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I have heard it is good much longer too. As long as theres not crap floating in it you should be OK
 
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calendulo

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Jun 13, 2019
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I am not sure about my data expiration, email says may 2021 but actually If I was a prudent person, I should think that it is untrue, however I am not worry about two or three months or one year later.
Do not take off the seal and whether anyone wants to do a test......just using a syringe the problem is solved.
 
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dandan

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I surely believe it's good after expiration, but years??
And yes, its sealed in a black box in the fridge for optimum storage in my opinion, but lasting years after expiration?

I've read about if crap stars to float or crystalize or something then its losing its effect, but I wont open the sealed box to check...

I just dont know ....
I dont know if life is gonna work out (laughing and whinnin* at the same time)
*from "stop whining", like making a complaining sound,
Damm I hate it
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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Dude, if there were a way that I could buy it from you and each of us guarantee we wouldn't get scammed, I'd be on it. And if after that I waited another four years before I decided? I'd gladly slug that shit.

You do you! Laugh and whine! (Whaugh?) Just by posting, we get to whaugh, too! Or I'll just speak for me and say thanks for the....N-uckle.



P.S. The doc said some medicine is better than no medicine and to take it. Hasn't hurt me yet.
 
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Mud.

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Oct 27, 2018
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I surely believe it's good after expiration, but years??
And yes, its sealed in a black box in the fridge for optimum storage in my opinion, but lasting years after expiration?

Pentobarbital is a very stable chemical compound.
Liquid N. will remain lethal for at least 2/3 years after its expiry date.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
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Pentobarbital is a very stable chemical compound.
Liquid N. will remain lethal for at least 2/3 years after its expiry date.

Curious: How do you know?
 
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Mud.

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Oct 27, 2018
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Curious: How do you know?
I've talked to consultants and doctors of Dutch euthanasia organizations.
I've read books, articles and I've been a member of this board for over a year.
'The 2/3 years' is what most 'experts' agree upon when it comes to liquid N.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

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I've talked to consultants and doctors of Dutch euthanasia organizations.
I've read books, articles and I've been a member of this board for over a year.
'The 2/3 years' is what most 'experts' agree upon when it comes to liquid N.

Thank you!
 
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Quarky00

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I have a decent paying job, but Im still living paycheck to paycheck.
except the fucking fear about my economic future is very very dark
because how could I survive? how do you feed yourself?
Shared literally by trillions on this planet. Yeah, trillions :|

( not disregarding your personal pain/fear/despair -- just saying it's an epidemic. )
 
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ViroMajor

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Derek Humphry claims in a comment that sealed guenine bottles should be good for 5 years past their expiry date when stored properly.
Past versions of the PPH used to mention a lifespan of 10+ years ...however, more recently, these clearly defined estimate mentions were deteled everywhere from the revised book for something vague : "many years". Not sure if an event happened explaining the extra caution going backwards ? In all cases, if doubtful, it's better to send a sample to test out at the lab for peace of mind
 
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liverpoolfan

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Jun 10, 2019
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I have one bottle of sealed pisabental in a, box in the fridge. Expiry date (its, not mine) was 2019.
I don't know when I'm GTFO (almost certainly not this year) but it does weigh on my mind that I have only one bottle and it's going to be at least a year or two past its expiry date before I take it.
Ark made a very helpful megathread on the merits of 1 bottle vs 2 and has proved conclusively that 1 bottle was sufficient for them. However, what they didn't provide is info on their physical health, weight, age, medical condition etc and their N was in date.
As someone who is in their 50s with no medical condition, large and with an unusually strong constitution augmented by regular cardio and powerlifting, I'm still concerned that 1 bottle of expired pisabental won't be enough to kill off this stubborn old body of mine.

That's why I'm very interested in the debreather invention that's been discussed recently. No expiry date and one's physical size and strength are irrelevant.
 
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ViroMajor

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Re the debreather, if you read carefully the PPH chapter, it is unclear that there's any documented success it being used on its own regarding the new device at the moment. However, with the prior version of the device years ago, it gives an external link documenting 10 cases including 1 failure. The worrying part for me is that most volunteers accompagnied their Debreather exit with the ingestion of quite many meds aside, including two cases with 4g of N + misc for instance, which by itself is a non-unsignificant amount. As much as this machine looks appealing on paper, I'm left wondering about the blurry parts and unknowns about putting it into practice. Back then, it seemed Debreather + drugs was rather common. Is that part relevant ? because it's not talked about in the update
 
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liverpoolfan

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Re the debreather, if you read carefully the PPH chapter, it is unclear that there's any documented success it being used on its own regarding the new device at the moment. However, with the prior version of the device years ago, it gives an external link documenting 10 cases including 1 failure. The worrying part for me is that most volunteers accompagnied their Debreather exit with the ingestion of quite many meds aside, including two cases with 4g of N + misc for instance, which by itself is a non-unsignificant amount. As much as this machine looks appealing on paper, I'm left wondering about the blurry parts and unknowns about putting it into practice. Back then, it seemed Debreather + drugs was rather common. Is that part relevant ? because it's not talked about in the update
Interesting. I have to confess I don't know much about it other than what was linked here from EI. What I can say is that if I were to use one, I'd take care to be blissed out to fuck on benzos before I even started.
Then again l love benzos so any excuse...:)
 
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ViroMajor

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At the bottom, there are 2 boards describing 9 cases, out of 8 took a combination of N / morphine / benzos / sleeping pills / alcohol
Yet, the PPH overrides this aspect, making it look like it could/should be used on it's own.
 
dandan

dandan

One more attempt on life.
Feb 18, 2019
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I do also remember theres a cheap medicine that potentiates N effect, I think its name started with D... sold in mexico over the counter , I should buy and store it too.

I am confused what to do, I did spend a nice afternoon evening dinner with my roommate talking about his girlfriend and the girl I am/was dating and the new girl I've met. Plus I bought 4 Jean's, 7usd each LOL , I went to the most humble poor zipcodes in town , and fear I might end up there ,,, I gotta do something
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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Plus I bought 4 Jean's, 7usd each LOL

PACA HUNTING!!!! So awesome! I don't know if they call them that there, they did in Guatemala and Oaxaca. I cracked up when I found clothes with Goodwill tags. Great cheap way to replenish one's wardrobe. In Guatemala they had shoe stores with rejects from American factories for cheap. And I've heard such countries are where the loser team preprinted clothes go for college and professional sports championships. Gotta love Central America deals.

Sounds like you still have quality of life. I wouldn't take you to the vet yet to have you put down. :) I bet you'll know when and if it's the time to go. I think it's fortunate you have the N on hand if you decide it's time, even if it occasionally calls from its box in the fridge.

Wishing you all the best no matter what you do or decide, ladies' man. ;)
 
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faust

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Most of the expiry dates has nothing with a real expiry date. Except for some types of food, of course. If the bottle is not open, it should be fine after a few years.
Concerning wages/salaries. I think you have to create something like "safety pillow" and try to save 5-10 percent of your wages. Once when you lose job, you will be able to use that money and won't stress about what to prepare for dinner today.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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Most of the expiry dates has nothing with a real expiry date. Except for some types of food, of course. If the bottle is not open, it should be fine after a few years.
Concerning wages/salaries. I think you have to create something like "safety pillow" and try to save 5-10 percent of your wages. Once when you lose job, you will be able to use that money and won't stress about what to prepare for dinner today.

Spoken like a true European! German?* I love that! Wish it was like that in America.

No need to answer. Please forgive I overstepped, please PM me if you're uncomfortable and I'll delete that part of the comment or have it removed. :)
 
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faust

lost among the stars
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Spoken like a true European! German?* I love that! Wish it was like that in America.

No need to answer. Please forgive I overstepped, please PM me if you're uncomfortable and I'll delete that part of the comment or have it removed. :)
No worries, I understand that in some parts of the world it can be hard. But if there is no other choice, why not give it a try?
 
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