Whats wrong with drinking a heroic opioid dose.

[heyismeman]

Assuming you were able to source fent or whatever, let's assuming it's not pure at all, so you simply drink a huge amount, I'm talking a huge glass. Is this seriously not considered a likely to succeeded method. Are you truly more likely to just through up

 

[Peter Skellern]

Assuming you were able to source fent or whatever, let's assuming it's not pure at all, so you simply drink a huge amount, I'm talking a huge glass. Is this seriously not considered a likely to succeeded method. Are you truly more likely to just through up

Opiod nausea is a concern yes. I'm presuming you mean crushed tablets in water.

 

[heyismeman]

Opiod nausea is a concern yes. I'm presuming you mean crushed tablets in water.

Yea crushed up tablets in a shot glass. It's amazing man everyone is talking about opioid deaths, but when you actually want to use to to die it's rather hard. Is there no dose or antiemetic that if you combine you can have a close to 100% chance

Opiod nausea is a concern yes. I'm presuming you mean crushed tablets in water.

Assuming you source it from a reputable dw source, no it likely won't be pure but by reputation you know it's close to being good, better then anything off the street. Would one really struggle still to off themselves but crushing up a huge amount, taking the precautions such as empty stomach, anti ematic, build up a small tolerance etc

 

[dontwakemeup]

The media has done a great job of making people believe that if you take heroin or fentanyl, you will immediately drop died. This is partly true but there are a few factors with this ideology people miss! If you have a clean system, your 1st relationship with this drug will be a beautiful one.(I hate to describe it like that but it's true). If you are lucky to OD, your natural instincts will kick in and you will vomit Since this a suicide forum I'm assuming death is your goal. Well, all you can do at this point is hope your vomit cause you to aspirate (choke on your vomit) and die!

I don't think this is a reliable method and I personally think you'll turn into an addict before you die from the 1st dose. Just my opinion, take it for what it's worth.

 

[heyismeman]

The media has done a great job of making people believe that if you take heroin or fentanyl, you will immediately drop died. This is partly true but there are a few factors with this ideology people miss! If you have a clean system, your 1st relationship with this drug will be a beautiful one.(I hate to describe it like that but it's true). If you are lucky to OD, your natural instincts will kick in and you will vomit Since this a suicide forum I'm assuming death is your goal. Well, all you can do at this point is hope your vomit cause you to aspirate (choke on your vomit) and die!

I don't think this is a reliable method and I personally think you'll turn into an addict before you die from the 1st dose. Just my opinion, take it for what it's worth.

Idk I've taken opioid before I don't have an addictive personality, are there medications or perhaps a tolerance building ritual one can do first to minimize the chance of throwing up

 

[Peter Skellern]

Yea crushed up tablets in a shot glass. It's amazing man everyone is talking about opioid deaths, but when you actually want to use to to die it's rather hard. Is there no dose or antiemetic that if you combine you can have a close to 100% chance

Assuming you source it from a reputable dw source, no it likely won't be pure but by reputation you know it's close to being good, better then anything off the street. Would one really struggle still to off themselves but crushing up a huge amount, taking the precautions such as empty stomach, anti ematic, build up a small tolerance etc

In all likelihood you'll throw it back up.

 

[heyismeman]

In all likelihood you'll throw it back up.

Anti throw up medication?

 

[Peter Skellern]

Anti throw up medication?

I doubt will help in the amounts you're suggesting.

 

[heyismeman]

I doubt will help in the amounts you're suggesting.

I'm assuming injection is a whole different deal, can you inject intramuscular instead of direct in vein as I have a huge phobia of this.

 

[dontwakemeup]

Idk I've taken opioid before I don't have an addictive personality, are there medications or perhaps a tolerance building ritual one can do first to minimize the chance of throwing up

I take opiods daily and I'm not addicted either. My post wasn't to offend you, if I did I'm sorry. I was speaking only on heroin in my post. By you already taking opiods like myself we already have a tolerance to opiods. I can take my whole bottle and just sleep a few hours or days and I probaly wouldn't die.

I don't advise this method because if you are found no doctor will sign their name for narcotics for you again, and if they do you will be closely monitored! But to answer your question, I don't think there is any prep needed. If I were to do this method, this is what I would do. Just shoot heroin in your vein and wait. I would lay on your side with pillows behind my back so I won't choke if I had to vomit. The problem becomes, did I buy enough grams to kill me? Was this heroin a pure forrm or cut with other fillers? If I don't get this right this time, then will I try again? I can almost guarantee if I don't get it right, I will want another dose because heroin will take you to a place you will want to go again, and again.

Drinking it. I wouldn't suggest because it will take too much time to digest and your body will have too much time to decide what to do to protect you.

Hopefully, that helps. I'm here of not.

I'm assuming injection is a whole different deal, can you inject intramuscular instead of direct in vein as I have a huge phobia of this.

I'm assuming injection is a whole different deal, can you inject intramuscular instead of direct in vein as I have a huge phobia of this.

Heroin should be injected via the veins so it's gets in your blood faster. You can inject muscular but it will take too long to get into your system. I'm sorry

 

[heyismeman]

I take opiods daily and I'm not addicted either. My post wasn't to offend you, if I did I'm sorry. I was speaking only on heroin in my post. By you already taking opiods like myself we already have a tolerance to opiods. I can take my whole bottle and just sleep a few hours or days and I probaly wouldn't die.

I don't advise this method because if you are found no doctor will sign their name for narcotics for you again, and if they do you will be closely monitored! But to answer your question, I don't think there is any prep needed. If I were to do this method, this is what I would do. Just shoot heroin in your vein and wait. I would lay on your side with pillows behind my back so I won't choke if I had to vomit. The problem becomes, did I buy enough grams to kill me? Was this heroin a pure forrm or cut with other fillers? If I don't get this right this time, then will I try again? I can almost guarantee if I don't get it right, I will want another dose because heroin will take you to a place you will want to go again, and again.

Drinking it. I wouldn't suggest because it will take too much time to digest and your body will have too much time to decide what to do to protect you.

Hopefully, that helps. I'm here of not.

I don't have any tolerance myself cause it's been many many years. I know this sounds crazy but I have a massive phobia of vein injections. If one found pure fent or very high quality, could you instead inject intramuscular a large enough dose to be off. Something like 5 times what normally would kill a man

 

[dontwakemeup]

I don't have any tolerance myself cause it's been many many years. I know this sounds crazy but I have a massive phobia of vein injections. If one found pure fent or very high quality, could you instead inject intramuscular a large enough dose to be off. Something like 5 times what normally would kill a man

I have thought of this methods several months ago and declined. When you inject heroin IM, the route is slower! Nobody ever chooses this method for that reason. I guess if you must try then I can't stop you. I personally wouldn't take the risk. And even if you inject 5 x the normal dose you may pass out on 1 dose. Your body isn't guaranteed to wait and be patient while you keep injecting heroin into your muscles. You body will immediately recognize it as a foreign object as must decide what to do. You may not have enough time for even 2 doses.

 

[heyismeman]

I have thought of this methods several months ago and declined. When you inject heroin IM, the route is slower! Nobody ever chooses this method for that reason. I guess if you must try then I can't stop you. I personally wouldn't take the risk. And even if you inject 5 x the normal dose you may pass out on 1 dose. Your body isn't guaranteed to wait and be patient while you keep injecting heroin into your muscles. You body will immediately recognize it as a foreign object as must decide what to do. You may not have enough time for even 2 doses.

Than what if one ignores heroine, and instead fent.

 

[Peter Skellern]

The problem is (with heroin) you'll need a considerable amount - say 2 to 3 grms. Even then is it going to be enough? I'm not sure because of cutting. Then that's a LOT of Heroin. How are you going to get that into you as its a big syringe?

 

[heyismeman]

The problem is (with heroin) you'll need a considerable amount - say 2 to 3 grms. Even then is it going to be enough? I'm not sure because of cutting. Then that's a LOT of Heroin. Howcate you goibg to get that into you as its a big syringe?

Right but heroine isn't what I was considering i was thinking fent. Which I would assume not nearly as much material would be required and honestly probably easier to source

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

Yea crushed up tablets in a shot glass. It's amazing man everyone is talking about opioid deaths, but when you actually want to use to to die it's rather hard. Is there no dose or antiemetic that if you combine you can have a close to 100% chance

Assuming you source it from a reputable dw source, no it likely won't be pure but by reputation you know it's close to being good, better then anything off the street. Would one really struggle still to off themselves but crushing up a huge amount, taking the precautions such as empty stomach, anti ematic, build up a small tolerance etc

I tried to get heroin, my dad said he would get it for me, and then he backed out. I'm not sure I could steady my hand enough to get the injection in though if it was actually given to me. I guess my only concerned for you drinking it would be that you would throw it up? But I don't know. Good luck

 

[dontwakemeup]

Than what if one ignores heroine, and instead fent.

Then that's a decision one has to make People aren't out here selling fentanyl pills, they are lacing then inside drugs. You must not know any drug addicts or drug dealers. I doubt any drug dealer would feel comfortable selling drugs to you if you walk up asking for fentanyl Please look for another method. I can see this isn't going to work. I'm sorry.
A normal dose is 2-3 grams with a syringe, like an insulin syringe fyi friend

 

[Peter Skellern]

Then that's a decision one has to make People aren't out here selling fentanyl pills, they are lacing then inside drugs. You must not know any drug addicts or drug dealers. I doubt any drug dealer would feel comfortable selling drugs to you if you walk up asking for fentanyl Please look for another method. I can see this isn't going to work. I'm sorry.
A normal dose is 2-3 grams with a syringe, like an insulin syringe fyi friend

Can you get 2-3 grms into an insulin syringe?

 

[dontwakemeup]

Can you get 2-3 grms into an insulin syringe?

I'm never done heroin so I don't know. I just know that's the usual dose. I never seen higher or lower. You can try an tuberculosis syringe too

 

[Peter Skellern]

I'm never done heroin so I don't know. I just know that's the usual dose. I never seen higher or lower. You can try an tuberculosis syringe too

I think the OD amount is likely to be 12x the normal dose so a commensurately bigger syringe will be needed. Think 10ml.

 

[dontwakemeup]

I think the OD amount is likely to be 12x the normal dose so a commensurately bigger syringe will be needed. Think 10ml.

You mean the OD amount is 12 times the regular dose?? OMG, that's a high dose! Insulin syringe can hold up to 60 mL, but most are usually smaller. This why I said the media lies and spread this false idea that taking fentanyl and heroin will be an instant death. I understand why they do it of course, but it's lies!

 

[Peter Skellern]

You mean the OD amount is 12 times the regular dose?? OMG, that's a high dose! Insulin syringe can hold up to 60 mL, but most are usually smaller. This why I said the media lies and spread this false idea that taking fentanyl and heroin will be an instant death. I understand why they do it of course, but it's lies!

I put up a thread re that earlier. Yes a person would need 2g - to- pick a number to ensure a fatal dose. So even if you cook it concentrated its going to be a lot more than usual - you'll want to be sure. In the Pinned Heroin thread the guy used 5.25grams. It thetefore isn't going to be a small syringe. Can you get that 'in you' before passing out? Even IM? Hence I was looking for informed opinions

 

[heyismeman]

I put up a thread re that earlier. Yes a person would need 2g - to- pick a number to ensure a fatal dose. So even if you cook it concentrated its going to be a lot more than usual - you'll want to be sure. In the Pinned Heroin thread the guy used 5.25grams. It thetefore isn't going to be a small syringe. Can you get that 'in you' before passing out? Even IM? Hence I was looking for informed opinions

But everyone when talking about this method assume heroine, isn't fent a much better choice for something like this.

 

[Peter Skellern]

My aforementioned thread

Thread 'HEROIN OD questions' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/heroin-od-questions.195213/

 

[dontwakemeup]

I put up a thread re that earlier. Yes a person would need 2g - to- pick a number to ensure a fatal dose. So even if you cook it concentrated its going to be a lot more than usual - you'll want to be sure. In the Pinned Heroin thread the guy used 5.25grams. It thetefore isn't going to be a small syringe. Can you get that 'in you' before passing out? Even IM? Hence I was looking for informed opinions

That's a lot to take! I doubt that would be a pleasant way to go! To get that much in you would have to push it very fast! I stated earlier, that method have crossed my mind months ago but I decided not to use that method.

 

[Peter Skellern]

It is. Hence my looking for informed opinions. Is yours informed re this?

 

[dontwakemeup]

It is. Hence my looking for informed opinions. Is yours informed re this?

I just know someone that knows someone that knows someone I have never tried heroin or fentanyl, so my opinions are simply those composited from those someone's into my own informed opinion.

 

[Peter Skellern]

I just know someone that knows someone that knows someone I have never tried heroin or fentanyl, so my opinions are simply those composited from those someone's into my own informed opinion.

Like I said, I'm looking for ACTUAL informed opinions. The very fact that you think that a heroin OD isnt a good way to go indicates that yours isn't.

 

[dontwakemeup]

Like I said, I'm looking for ACTUAL informed opinions. The very fact that you think that a heroin OD isnt a good way to go indicates that yours isn't.

I'm sorry you're having a tough time I truly hope you find what you're searching for! Unfortunately, you couldn't read between the lines. So, I'll end this dialgoue here. Good day my friend.