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Hi, Layla here. Currently contemplating suicide and wondering how to do this the easiest way because I'm tired of living through this difficult life. I just recently discharged from residential treatment and lied and told my therapist I was feeling safe and prepared to go home. Now that I'm out nothings locked up except medications and I'm ready for whatever methods you'll hit me with. I'm ready to leave this world peacefully with no difficulty. Thanks to the people that will support my choice and give me methods. I appreciate you.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

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Your choice is supported here, but according to the rules, we can't give you methods.

A good place to start is the Resource Compilation, where megathreads of various methods are listed, as well as a link to the PPH.
 
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a.n.kirillov

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I would look to the peacefulness rating table within the PPeH. Most people here would—for the most part—agree with it.
 
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Your choice is supported here, but according to the rules, we can't give you methods.

A good place to start is the Resource Compilation, where megathreads of various methods are listed, as well as a link to the PPH.

What about self-harm methods? That'll cut an artery?
 
TheGoodGuy

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Your choice is supported here, but according to the rules, we can't give you methods.
Yes we can

Rules:
Do not encourage, manipulate, coerce or help users carry out acts of any nature whatsoever, including suicide; only provide information and emotional support to those who ask for it. Do not try to get the community to tell you what to do, only you can choose your path and actions. Only request emotional support or factual information.
 
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Yes we can

Rules:
Do not encourage, manipulate, coerce or help users carry out acts of any nature whatsoever, including suicide; only provide information and emotional support to those who ask for it. Do not try to get the community to tell you what to do, only you can choose your path and actions. Only request emotional support or factual information.
Do you know how to cut an artery by cutting your wrists???
 
GoodPersonEffed

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What about self-harm methods? That'll cut an artery?

Use the site search with terms like bleeding out or artery. There are lots of threads about it.
 
HelensNepenthe

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The rule you referenced is perhaps a little ambiguous in your interpretation, yet I see it quite clearly. We can aid in helping forum members with accurate information in choosing their self-deliverance. We are also a supportive community in talking someone down, and helping someone exhaust every resource before they punch their ticket in. Yet where we draw the line is choosing their own method, because that is quite a legally grey area. There are potential risks of someone getting a charge of aiding in someone's suicide. While this is not the thread to discuss rules, because that is something that really should be talked in PM or in the feedback forum; I'm going to have to side with GoodPersonEffed here. To note: I do not speak on behalf of the forum or any of the staff actively running the site. This is simply only an opinion of mine.

This post reads to me someone desperately wanting a way out, and perhaps acting on compulsion and not in a sound mind. In which in no way do I feel comfortable besides telling someone that there are method threads where you could research on your own. There are also copies of the Peaceful Pill Handbook on the forum that you can discover peaceful methods under Nitschke and co.'s philosophy.
Do you know how to cut an artery by cutting your wrists???
Self deliverance through cutting an artery will most likely lead to you in a lot of agony in addition with your blood clotting. Leading to a lot worse situation where you will definitely end up in a psych ward.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

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Yes we can

Rules:
Do not encourage, manipulate, coerce or help users carry out acts of any nature whatsoever, including suicide; only provide information and emotional support to those who ask for it. Do not try to get the community to tell you what to do, only you can choose your path and actions. Only request emotional support or factual information.

Also from the rules:

Do not try to get the community to tell you what to do, only you can choose your path and actions.

A mod has also posted an elaboration of this several times on different new members' threads asking for methods:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/new-here-advice.36195/post-671657
 
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Do you know how to cut an artery by cutting your wrists???
Only that the artery in your wrist and arm should be cut vertically and not horizontally as you often see in movies. Although I think you should look at other methods since I´m sure cutting your wrist/arm will be very painful and agonizing.
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Also from the rules:

Do not try to get the community to tell you what to do, only you can choose your path and actions.

A mod has also posted an elaboration of this several times on different new members' threads asking for methods:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/new-here-advice.36195/post-671657
People ask all the time for methods and in all the time I´ve been here I haven´t seen anyone getting banned for helping people find the right method for them, I mean for god sake the forum´s name is even sanctioned suicide it´s a sanctuary for suicidal people to get the help they need to end their suffering.
 
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a.n.kirillov

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>>>There are potential risks of someone getting a charge of aiding in someone's suicide.

Well, at least not in Germany (anymore) :sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses:

But I agree with your sentiment. With very new members especially I think making sure they really want to do it implies letting them do the work of researching themselves.

Then, if they want to discuss minutiae of a particular method, you know they are serious and have been wanting to die or considering for a long time.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

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@iamlayla, I hope you don't feel negated by comments here. I noticed your label, didn't notice that when you first posted but maybe it was there and I overlooked it. You're not a stupid bitch, I don't think that of anyone even if they think it of themselves. I'm more likely to think that's something someone pretty shitty said about them in the past and that they took on.

Folks have conversations here, just because someone points out something that can't be done, or they believe shouldn't be done like a particular method, doesn't mean they're negating you or that it's a reflection of you. It's okay to ask questions, it's okay to ask for help, and it's equally okay to say why something can't be done or is inadvisable. Occasionally someone here may be negating, but that's a reflection of them, not of you.

I hope you're starting to figure out the site, and finding that there are lots of resources here and different ways of finding them. Sometimes answers to questions point in those directions, don't be afraid to speak up if you need help figuring it out.
 
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Like your avatar imlayla.
 
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@iamlayla, I hope you don't feel negated by comments here. I noticed your label, didn't notice that when you first posted but maybe it was there and I overlooked it. You're not a stupid bitch, I don't think that of anyone even if they think it of themselves. I'm more likely to think that's something someone pretty shitty said about them in the past and that they took on.

Folks have conversations here, just because someone points out something that can't be done, or they believe shouldn't be done like a particular method, doesn't mean they're negating you or that it's a reflection of you. It's okay to ask questions, it's okay to ask for help, and it's equally okay to say why something can't be done or is inadvisable. Occasionally someone here may be negating, but that's a reflection of them, not of you.

I hope you're starting to figure out the site, and finding that there are lots of resources here and different ways of finding them. Sometimes answers to questions point in those directions, don't be afraid to speak up if you need help figuring it out.
Haha. It wasn't because of the replies on this post, it was something I saw on instagram. Thanks tho.
 
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a.h

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>>>There are potential risks of someone getting a charge of aiding in someone's suicide.

Well, at least not in Germany (anymore) :sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses:

But I agree with your sentiment. With very new members especially I think making sure they really want to do it implies letting them do the work of researching themselves.

Then, if they want to discuss minutiae of a particular method, you know they are serious and have been wanting to die or considering for a long time.

I bet that those people who are afraid to speak openly live in USA where the laws are pretty crazy.

Though if I wanted to get more info about easiest, fastest and painless euthanasia methods I would ask theoretically that which ways are most humane ways to do euthanasia (like one person in other thread did recently). I would not ask to help me decide a way for myself to ctb.

As most here know anyone can order Peacefull Pill handbook, to home or ebook, which has the most painless and fast euthanasia ways described (surely there are other really fast and painless ways but they would need products only few could get so they are not listed in there). Few years ago there was free ebook copy of the older version of pph book in Exit that people could download. Here people have discussed about those same euthanasia ways in more detail in methods threads.
 

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