whats the difference between us and who catch the bus

[pua]

İn this forum everybody want to die. Some of them can do it,some of them can't. What is our difference from them? Are we not ready, whats the problem? Why can't we die?

 

[Antiquated]

I wish I knew man...I wish I knew

 

[Mm80]

İn this forum everybody want to die. Some of them can do it,some of them can't. What is our difference from them? Are we not ready, whats the problem? Why can't we die?

Imo it's on a sliding scale of hope.
You can be suicidal but have a tiny bit of hope. Once that goes, that's it I think.

 

[Mr2005]

We don't want to die, it's that simple. I doubt even the people that died wanted to. This is a horrible place to be. Clinging on for dear life hoping beyond hope there'll be some way out of it until eventually people cave in

 

[TotalPOS]

It's about what you desire most. The pain of this life vs the unknown of the next. I believe I have damnation awaiting me so there is some hesitance. But the circumstances of my life here push me ever closer.

 

[MiseryLovesMyCompany]

It depends. Not everyone reached their final breaking point, so you might say that some are not ready yet in the sense that their survival instinct and hope was not outweighed by their sadness.
Some are waiting for an opportunity or have obligations that bind them to this world.
Finally, we can't forget that there are people with beliefs that make them afraid of what lies beyond the other side. For example a fear of hell.

 

[pua]

Imo it's on a sliding scale of hope.
You can be suicidal but have a tiny bit of hope. Once that goes, that's it I think.

Something is stopping me but its not SI or hope .i cant figure it out,maybe my mental pain is not enough to die

 

[Mr2005]

Something is stopping me but its not SI or hope .i cant figure it out,maybe my mental pain is not enough to die

Attachment?

 

[Meditation guide]

ready, whats the problem? Why can't we die?

Well first you have to do something to make it happen. It takes some initiative. Some effort.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

I think it's a narrow window.
Too depressed, and you lack the will power and initiative. Too hopeful, and you lack the resolve and determination.
People who ctb are probably not so depressed that they can't even function, yet not so hopeful that they can imagine a better future.

 

[Acopia]

I don't necessarily want to die, but unfortunately my illness gets so bad that the suicidal thoughts are not only intrusive but get very loud. When my MH gets bad it causes a lot of physical problems/pain.
It's hard to carry on living like that, death is the only way out.

Until the day I die I have that little sliver of hope that maybe I'll be helped, even saved. But if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen.

I'm also certain (and have been since I was very young) that I will become so ill that one day I'll ctb. That day is just not today.

-Acopia

 

[Mercury6737]

I think it's the difficulty of overcoming the survival instinct, which requires a degree of impulse. You need something to produce that impulse. Simply wanting to die is not enough. If there were suicide clinics (think Dr. Kevorkian), I think things would play out a lot differently.

 

[LastFlowers]

No Access to a successful method, still things left to prepare and destroy before death. If death was a guarantee when one ctbs, then I wouldn't have to worry about botching the attempt and ending up far worse. I could have some peace of mind and just focus on getting ready. I am tired of being stuck, I truly want to disappear and for it all to be over but I can't shake the possibility of it failing. Because when I try, I will try for real and so if I fail, there will be heavy consequences.

 

[BPD Barbie]

I wish I knew man...I wish I knew

This. I wish I had answers. I go back and forth between living and dying, over and over again. I've tried several times before, I don't know why this time it's proving so hard to do. I'm just stuck in this never ending limbo.

 

[SadGuyWannaDie]

I convinced myself of the right date and a meticulous plan and for whatever reason I'm still here. I'm not just here on this planet I'm here on this site and I read almost every post. I am very much in limbo.

I had much of my survival instinct conquered the last time but I was thrown a curve ball completely unanticipated confliction. Now a part of me feels like I don't even want to go through all that again I just want the instantaneous end result of being gone. There doesn't really seem to be a choice though because my life is unlivable.

 

[Leshen]

Overthinking.
They just fucking do it and we're here twiddling our thumbs waiting for god knows what.

 

[SadGuyWannaDie]

Overthinking.
They just fucking do it and we're here twiddling our thumbs waiting for god knows what.

I think there is something huge to be said for overthinking. I often wonder how many people found out about a method and didn't do deep research on it. Were simply able to have the confidence to try and succeed without ever having a long drawn out battle with their survival instinct.

 

[Shiv15]

It's about what you desire most. The pain of this life vs the unknown of the next. I believe I have damnation awaiting me so there is some hesitance. But the circumstances of my life here push me ever closer.

Is there a reason you believe you have damnation awaiting you?

If you haven't killed people, than to be honest, you don't need to worry about it. There is no damnation awaiting you. It's all Christian bullshit.

 

[TotalPOS]

Yes. I have done bad things. One day, this life or the next you'll know there is a God. He expects a lot. If he doesn't get it - wrath. If you ever get into the bible at all you don't have to get too far before understanding how far removed most of are from living as he wants. I would say covit 19 is a biblically predicted indication of Gods wrath and how he feels about the human race currently.

 

[Deleted member 22624]

I just want to say: If there is a god, he can fuck himself.

This is a cruel paradox of an existence. Fuck him for this evil game he forces us to play. I wonder if nature without God could be as unintentionally cruel as this world, enslaving consciousness so genes can compete at our expense: big stick, little carrot. Consciousness seems like a cheap means for some twisted end.

Lots of differences, many types of people here, some wildly different situations. But I think what it boils down to is imagining going through suicide is enough for some people to switch off the worrying. "I don't need to do X because I could CTB". So the self-neglect is enough for the SI to kick in, suicidal ideation seem to have performed a task as designed, even if it is dysfunctional? Nature's round about way of making us do less?

 

[k75]

We don't want to die, it's that simple. I doubt even the people that died wanted to. This is a horrible place to be. Clinging on for dear life hoping beyond hope there'll be some way out of it until eventually people cave in

Yes.

I'd prefer to not have these urges, but they're strong and persistent. I remember how it was to be ok, and it's difficult to accept I'll truly never be ok again. My life isn't inherently bad, and so I keep giving it chances and trying and hoping there's some way to save myself. It's like slowly drowning with a life jacket just out of reach. The problem is I know it can't get better and the ideation gets stronger all the time. When I stop trying, that'll be the end.

 

[RedFoxSwims]

I think that those that ctb are very brave and very strong willed. I will join them one day my plan requires a lot of will power I know I have it.

 

[albino_elk]

Go to offtopic to talk about god.;)

 

[esse_est_percipi]

One day, this life or the next you'll know there is a God. He expects a lot. If he doesn't get it - wrath. If you ever get into the bible at all you don't have to get too far before understanding how far removed most of are from living as he wants

The 'God' of the old testament isn't God, it's a satanic demiurge.
It would be best to stay away from such a being.

 

[Zzzzz]

My problem isn't hope. I have zero hope that my life will ever be anywhere near where I want it to be. I 100% don't want to be alive. I despise living life, but I also don't want to kill myself either. I don't want to accept death in just any form . It might be that my suffering is not yet greater than my powerful survival instincts. If I could will myself to die in my sleep, that would be what I want. I really wish I never existed in the first place. I wish my mother had an abortion.

 

[Shiv15]

Yes. I have done bad things. One day, this life or the next you'll know there is a God. He expects a lot. If he doesn't get it - wrath. If you ever get into the bible at all you don't have to get too far before understanding how far removed most of are from living as he wants. I would say covit 19 is a biblically predicted indication of Gods wrath and how he feels about the human race currently.

Look bro, I have more insight into the spiritual realm that most people. Heed my words. What I am saying isn't some religious bullshit. It's the truth. The following knowledge isn't aquired through weird cults on the internet. This is the real deal but I won't go into how I have learned all this.

God is Real. Yeah he is. And he is one of the most powerful beings out there. Bible is legit. It has many potent words and the book must be respected. For example, if you read the Psalms out loud, it attracts angels to you. But most of the things in the bible that says how you should live your life is bullshit and you won't be put into damnation for that.

There is actually no particular "GOD" that is going to judge you. It's the Lords of Karma that does that. Nothing bad is going to happen if you don't believe in God or reject his teachings. Nothing bad will happen if you DO participate in adultery. If you kill someone, then it depends. But forget about all that. It's complicated.

If you don't do harm, nothing bad is going to happen to you. If you do harm, something bad "MAY" happen to you.

And I know for a fact I won't get through to you. But anyhow, I tried.

Oh and about the covid-19. No it isn't God's wrath. It's some demonic shit that has been conjured.

If you want some real knowledge about the spiritual world, read the hindu scriptures. Yes sometimes the Gods can be glamorised a bit but not as much as the bible and it's a lot more potent than the teachings of the bible. In fact, there are literally no useful teachings in the bible. Though have respect for the Christian God and the bible. It's very potent.

You can still go the angels and other Abrahamic beings (like Jesus Christ) for help even when one doesn't like God.

 

[pua]

I think that those that ctb are very brave and very strong willed. I will join them one day my plan requires a lot of will power I know I have it.

i have no will power and i dont know what i am going to do

 

[Rn110bg101]

I'm just waiting for the right time.

 

[MichaelNomad123]

It doesn't matter. Your experience is your own.

 

[Painless_end]

According to me , these 3 things

1. They are at peace with the finality of their decision

2. They accept the pain/discomfort in their chosen method.

3. They manage to suppress survival instinct at the final moment.

Once you have all these 3 checked, you are good to go.