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enjambment

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I am going to a psychiatrist for the first time next week and I need to know what I can and can't say in order to avoid going to a psych ward. Obviously I won't mention my plans to CTB, but is it safe for me to open up about feelings of hopelessness, not seeing a future for myself, feeling like a burden for my family and having no will to do anything?
 
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Just avoid telling that you already have a plan to ctb. I always mentioned that I have ideation of ctb. They asked what I will do, and I will just tell the most common thing; hanging and drowning. Once they asked if I have plans to do it, I firmly says no, even though I have plans. And the usual follow up is if you can keep yourself safe until next check up or therapy, just say yes. So just avoid telling that you have plans on hurting yourself or committing ctb.
I was opened to my psychiatrist and therapist about other things like being hopeless, loneliness, and feeling of being in the dark void.
This is just based on my experience.
 
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Willowmoon

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i guess the last five's are okay, i would state the same way if i were you...
poor English sorry
 
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randy

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Jan 6, 2023
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I've told my psych that I have "ideation" but no concrete plans, at least near term. I've also told him I've considered Dignitas. I've mentioned hopelessness, no joy in anything, no interest in anything, no reason to live. I didn't get locked up. YMMV
 
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You can talk about Suicide idealization to an extent. You can definitely feel free to open up about how you are feeling hopelessness, not seeing a future will not be an issue.

I've been very open with my Shrink since my suicide attempt, obviously not to the extent of telling her I have SN in my possession and plan to do it on X date.

I just tell a bit of a white lie - She knows I want to kill myself, but when she asks me I advise that I'm not planning to do it soon.
 
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randy

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Just avoid telling that you already have a plan to ctb. I always mentioned that I have ideation of ctb. They asked what I will do, and I will just tell the most common thing; hanging and drowning. Once they asked if I have plans to do it, I firmly says no, even though I have plans. And the usual follow up is if you can keep yourself safe until next check up or therapy, just say yes. So just avoid telling that you have plans on hurting yourself or committing ctb. This is just based on my experience.
personally, I avoid saying specifics about methods. When I've been asked, I just say that I didn't think it through that far
 
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goldengatebridgegal

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I am going to a psychiatrist for the first time next week and I need to know what I can and can't say in order to avoid going to a psych ward. Obviously I won't mention my plans to CTB, but is it safe for me to open up about feelings of hopelessness, not seeing a future for myself, feeling like a burden for my family and having no will to do anything?
Working as a peer specialist in the field, I'm pretty familiar with this. Don't disclose your plan, whether or not you have means, and don't make it seem like you have high intent to follow through or they may decide to put you on a hold.

The most challenging and frustrating part of the mental health system is that a mental professional's eagerness to put someone on a hold is completely dependent on their own bias/fear. I've opened up to one therapist before about hopelessness and they sat with me and talked to me about it. I've opened up to other therapists and they forced me to call the crisis line, put me on holds etc.

The best advice I could give- Try to get a feel for your psychiatrists personality and whether or not they hold bias before completely opening up
 
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Why do you guys go to psychiatrists? To test if you feel better with some pills?
 
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weightedrocks

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Trans Woman trying her best.
Jan 20, 2023
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Yeah I told my therapist I was suicidal, she asked if I had any plans to ctb, I tried to avoid the question but by not saying no she kinda caught on. Had to come up with this long winded shit to get around it fucking sucks. Even after that tho she recommended in-patient therapy, fuck that.
Like, try to be honest as best as you can I think.
 
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If you want to mention being suicidal put the topic on the table and be honest about your fears about hospitalization. Make it clear you want to avoid that outcome. Otherwise if you get asked about CTB strong deny that you have any intent to carry it out.
 
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wantittoendsoon

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Dec 11, 2022
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Why do you guys go to psychiatrists? To test if you feel better with some pills?
Yes, for years antidepressants helped me, unfortunately I now have a terminal disease. Would have CTB 30 years ago without them.
 
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Just avoid telling that you already have a plan to ctb. I always mentioned that I have ideation of ctb. They asked what I will do, and I will just tell the most common thing; hanging and drowning. Once they asked if I have plans to do it, I firmly says no, even though I have plans. And the usual follow up is if you can keep yourself safe until next check up or therapy, just say yes. So just avoid telling that you have plans on hurting yourself or committing ctb.
I was opened to my psychiatrist and therapist about other things like being hopeless, loneliness, and feeling of being in the dark void.
This is just based on my experience.
I've told my psych that I have "ideation" but no concrete plans, at least near term. I've also told him I've considered Dignitas. I've mentioned hopelessness, no joy in anything, no interest in anything, no reason to live. I didn't get locked up. YMMV
Exactly. Say you have thoughts of killing yourself but no real plans. They just want to know you're going to be safe. But you should let them know that you would very much like life to just end. Just say you just wouldn't know how to do it yet. And that if you did come up with a plan, you'd phone a crisis line or emergency services.
 
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lost&lonely

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When I was my teens my dad took me to a private hospital, and the psychiatrist was pleasant and seemed willing to help me. That is until I tried to CTB. Once I was discharged from the regular hospital I was taken to the psychiatrist refused to see me any more.
I quickly learnt how much information to disclose to future psychiatrists and psychologists.
 
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