Fragile

Fragile

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I've seen a lot of discussion about this topic lately on this forum, and i'm sure that the vast majority of us agree that some form of assisted death should absolutely be legal. but what we seem to disagree on is who should be able to access it, some say that it should only be for people over 18, some argue that only people with terminal illnesses can have it and no for people with mental health issues.

so what are your thoughts on it? i know that this is a very complicated subject and we all have different opinions on it, but i'm curious as to what regulations will members of this forum put on assisted suicide if they had the authority to do so.
 
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lostangel

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I've seen a lot of discussion about this topic lately on this forum, and i'm sure that the vast majority of us agree that some form of assisted death should absolutely be legal. but what we seem to disagree on is who should be able to access it, some say that it should only be for people over 18, some argue that only people with terminal illnesses can have it and no for people with mental health issues.

so what are your thoughts on it? I know that this is a very complicated subject and we all have different opinions on it, but i'm curious as to what regulations will members of this forum put on assisted suicide if they had the authority to do so.

Over 18 unless it's a terminal illness. I think everybody with a terminal illness should be allowed to do it. For mental illness, I am on board for that but maybe the person looking to die can be made to do therapy or at least has tried to get help from professionals just so that people don't make impulsive decisions over a small thing.

Even if it does become legal, not many people would be able to afford 10k to die. But that's just my take on it.
 
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OneBigBlur

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An age limit and a waiting period because there are some people who are actually impulsive about suicide.
 
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Fragile

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Even if it does become legal, not many people would be able to afford 10k to die. But that's just my take on it.

i think that the 10k are just for the private sector of euthanasia, they need that money because you are paying for the hard to acquire and expensive drugs and other stuff that is not provided by anyone else. in an ideal world it would be at least partially covered by the state or your healthcare.
 
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Erdapfel

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Why regulations? I would give that stuff out for free. Nobody regrets their suicide when they are already dead, right?
 
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Onomotopoeia

Experienced
Feb 8, 2019
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1. Over 25 barring something terminal. Prior to this your brain is still developing and much more importantly your life is going to change drastically from even 18 to 25.
2. Any reason is an acceptable one assuming you are of age, that said 2 year waiting list with mandatory therapy in the interim
3. You must prepay your funeral expenses, prepare a will etc. A legal right to CTB will save a ton of money related to attempted and successful suicides but we need this to not put undue hardship on your loved ones, and to help sell it to the public.
4. Your death is a medical procedure and needs to be covered as such
5. During your waiting period you cannot spend excessively on credit to remain eligible (again need to sell to the public)

I think that would about cover it
 
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Feb 10, 2020
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1. Over 25 barring something terminal. Prior to this your brain is still developing and much more importantly your life is going to change drastically from even 18 to 25.
2. Any reason is an acceptable one assuming you are of age, that said 2 year waiting list with mandatory therapy in the interim
3. You must prepay your funeral expenses, prepare a will etc. A legal right to CTB will save a ton of money related to attempted and successful suicides but we need this to not put undue hardship on your loved ones, and to help sell it to the public.
4. Your death is a medical procedure and needs to be covered as such
5. During your waiting period you cannot spend excessively on credit to remain eligible (again need to sell to the public)

I think that would about cover it

In the US, where treatment isn't available to everyone, I think that the two years of treatment should be provided at no cost to the person. Additionally, they should be expedited in the process of applying for disability, if they want to take time off work to focus on health, and be assigned a caseworker to assist with the entire process.

(Maybe get some churches involved in collecting donations to pay for mental health care for those who can't afford it. Churches are *big* on living humans and bring in a TON of money.)
 
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Onomotopoeia

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In the US, where treatment isn't available to everyone, I think that the two years of treatment should be provided at no cost to the person. Additionally, they should be expedited in the process of applying for disability, if they want to take time off work to focus on health, and be assigned a caseworker to assist with the entire process.

(Maybe get some churches involved in collecting donations to pay for mental health care for those who can't afford it. Churches are *big* on living humans and bring in a TON of money.)

if you live in the US i'm sure you understand why i didn't add that. It will simply not happen in my lifetime, but then neither will any of this so I digress, I could have added it to my imaginary scenario but I still felt i needed to be realistic.

Churches are only big on things that increase their wallet, not lower it, plus suicide being a sin and all
 
ghostspace

ghostspace

ghost space, ghosts pace
Feb 10, 2020
410
if you live in the US i'm sure you understand why i didn't add that. It will simply not happen in my lifetime, but then neither will any of this so I digress, I could have added it to my imaginary scenario but I still felt i needed to be realistic.

Churches are only big on things that increase their wallet, not lower it, plus suicide being a sin and all

Yeah, I feel u. I was just being idealistic bc my imagination is very 'go big or go home'.

Maybe bc they'd want to save the suicidal? And would invest in treatment to keep people alive and healthier? Haha, they'd be doing that now if they wanted to; you're so right. :/

edit: also, I like your username
 
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faraway_beach

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Dec 30, 2019
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1. Over 25 barring something terminal. Prior to this your brain is still developing and much more importantly your life is going to change drastically from even 18 to 25.
2. Any reason is an acceptable one assuming you are of age, that said 2 year waiting list with mandatory therapy in the interim
3. You must prepay your funeral expenses, prepare a will etc. A legal right to CTB will save a ton of money related to attempted and successful suicides but we need this to not put undue hardship on your loved ones, and to help sell it to the public.
4. Your death is a medical procedure and needs to be covered as such
5. During your waiting period you cannot spend excessively on credit to remain eligible (again need to sell to the public)

I think that would about cover it
With a two year waiting list, my pancreatic cancer is likely to kill me in a very unpleasant manner first, which is the thing I'm trying to avoid (the unpleasantness) by ctb.
 
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SuiSqueeze92

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Jan 15, 2020
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I'm just gonna throw in with a wait period (not 2yrs) I'd impose volunteer work during that time as a possible way to make a connection within the community, or a person, that might make the person considering CTB change their decision.