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lynnschronicles

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For those of us who can't access SN (anymore) or don't want to, what method(s) are you considering instead?

I know brain damage is a risk with SN too, but with hanging it just seems complicated to get right. Physical injuries could also occur. Even if I knew the set up was perfect, I don't know if I can bring myself to do it, knowing that I could still be alive with a worse life.

I don't want to traumatize any train driver or passenger. Though I have thought about using this method only due to lack of options. But even with my head on the rails, I'd have to make sure there's no cowcatcher at the front of the train. Then get an idea of what speed is fast enough. It's too scary. I won't do it unless I have no other way. I care about people. I don't want them to be affected. The restrictions on suicide are to blame for me even considering it.

Jumping? Maybe if I'm not sober, but then you gotta make sure you don't hit anything while you're falling. Any recommendations near or in Ontario? Preferably something that is a clear landing (and the right height ofc). Please inform me on if there's any suicide patrols. I wonder how much alcohol would actually help with the fear. How much would I drink?

Guns? Even if I pass the process of obtaining one, knowing that gunshot survivors exist is enough to deter me completely. I could point it right at my brain stem and still be terrified that I'll jerk my hand or it'll miss somehow.

Drowning? Absolutely NOT because of the agonizing pain.

Inert gas and charcoal? I'll have to look more into both of them.

Please message me if you can give me clues to access DMC again. Does the link keep changing? A wellness check is no worry of mine. I think that if I'm determined enough to go through with it, my lie of meat curing will be convincing. Thank you so much for your time. I wish the best for all of you 💙
 
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Forveleth

I knew I forgot to do something when I was 15...
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I have a rope for partial/full hanging. I also have sodium azide but that is not as documented as I would like so it is my emergency backup.
 
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Jadeith

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Aiming for inert gas method as primary method. SN as backup should primary fail.
 
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loader133

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Apr 30, 2025
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The 5-drug cocktail, as this one is stated to be the most reliable by PPeH
 
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khek0_

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Oct 28, 2024
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Partial hanging is probably it for me since I can't or moreso don't know how I would obtain SN. From what I've read it's mostly peaceful and knocks you out in seconds if you know what you're doing. But there's still the risk of being brain dead if things go wrong which is what I'm scared of.
 
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polm

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May 3, 2025
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The 5-drug cocktail, as this one is stated to be the most reliable by PPeH
I picked up on this from the podcast. Do you know where I can find the dosage of each?
Partial is the only option I can manage due to physical limitations.

I would go for SN if I could get it. I'd rather die in my bed.
 
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loader133

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Apr 30, 2025
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I picked up on this from the podcast. Do you know where I can find the dosage of each?
Partial is the only option I can manage due to physical limitations.

I would go for SN if I could get it. I'd rather die in my bed.
It's been discussed on this forum e.g.


Also
 
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polm

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It's been discussed on this forum e.g.


Also
Thanks so much. My options are v limited this just might be for me
 
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gooblet

nocturne op. 9 no. 2
Apr 13, 2025
28
For those of us who can't access SN (anymore) or don't want to, what method(s) are you considering instead?

I know brain damage is a risk with SN too, but with hanging it just seems complicated to get right. Physical injuries could also occur. Even if I knew the set up was perfect, I don't know if I can bring myself to do it, knowing that I could still be alive with a worse life.

I don't want to traumatize any train driver or passenger. Though I have thought about using this method only due to lack of options. But even with my head on the rails, I'd have to make sure there's no cowcatcher at the front of the train. Then get an idea of what speed is fast enough. It's too scary. I won't do it unless I have no other way. I care about people. I don't want them to be affected. The restrictions on suicide are to blame for me even considering it.

Jumping? Maybe if I'm not sober, but then you gotta make sure you don't hit anything while you're falling. Any recommendations near or in Ontario? Preferably something that is a clear landing (and the right height ofc). Please inform me on if there's any suicide patrols. I wonder how much alcohol would actually help with the fear. How much would I drink?

Guns? Even if I pass the process of obtaining one, knowing that gunshot survivors exist is enough to deter me completely. I could point it right at my brain stem and still be terrified that I'll jerk my hand or it'll miss somehow.

Drowning? Absolutely NOT because of the agonizing pain.

Inert gas and charcoal? I'll have to look more into both of them.

Please message me if you can give me clues to access DMC again. Does the link keep changing? A wellness check is no worry of mine. I think that if I'm determined enough to go through with it, my lie of meat curing will be convincing. Thank you so much for your time. I wish the best for all of you 💙
hanging 100%
 
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Romanticize

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Aug 22, 2024
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I picked up on this from the podcast. Do you know where I can find the dosage of each?
Partial is the only option I can manage due to physical limitations.

I would go for SN if I could get it. I'd rather die in my bed.
in PPeH handbook, but in case you dont have it, here it is. It is called DDMAPh because of drug names. Here are the dosages:
D - Digoxin - 100mg
D - Diazepam - 1g
M - Morphine- 15g
A - Amitriptyline - 8g
Ph - Phenobarb - 5g.


Now my comments on that: those drugs work jn different wsys. Excrpt Diazepam, M and Ph which are CNS depressants and actually enhance each other
Actually, it would be very difficult for you to obtain Phenobarbital as it's a barbiturate, same as our beloved N. Also the dosages are way overshoot, i take opioids and benzos daily for years, and for example Morphine 1gram with 1g of Diazepam would kill 98% opioid naive (non-tolerant) people. So 1g is a really high, lethal dose. And 3-5g is ultra high. And they casually recommend 15, and as a part od a 5drug mix(!!l). Its really a not necessary overkill, they tried too hard searching for something similar to N. ODs are tricky because its not always about the dose, its often sbout the mechsnisn, or the synergy, or speed of absorption. Such massive drug dose is a huge amount of pills/powder to swallow and it will lay there in your stomach,.slowing absorption and increasing risk of vomiting. if you dont have access to one or two drugs, or you have smaller dose, please consult before going with it.
 
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IndictEvolution

VegAntinatalist
Jun 28, 2024
54
Mixing formic acid and sulfuric acid to produce CO in my car, then after 20 minutes a device next to my head will obliterate me.
 
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polm

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May 3, 2025
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in PPeH handbook, but in case you dont have it, here it is. It is called DDMAPh because of drug names. Here are the dosages:
D - Digoxin - 100mg
D - Diazepam - 1g
M - Morphine- 15g
A - Amitriptyline - 8g
Ph - Phenobarb - 5g.


Now my comments on that: those drugs work jn different wsys. Excrpt Diazepam, M and Ph which are CNS depressants and actually enhance each other
Actually, it would be very difficult for you to obtain Phenobarbital as it's a barbiturate, same as our beloved N. Also the dosages are way overshoot, i take opioids and benzos daily for years, and for example Morphine 1gram with 1g of Diazepam would kill 98% opioid naive (non-tolerant) people. So 1g is a really high, lethal dose. And 3-5g is ultra high. And they casually recommend 15, and as a part od a 5drug mix(!!l). Its really a not necessary overkill, they tried too hard searching for something similar to N. ODs are tricky because its not always about the dose, its often sbout the mechsnisn, or the synergy, or speed of absorption. Such massive drug dose is a huge amount of pills/powder to swallow and it will lay there in your stomach,.slowing absorption and increasing risk of vomiting. if you dont have access to one or two drugs, or you have smaller dose, please consult before going with it.
Absolutely thanks so much doing my homework now
 
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UserFromNowhere

Member
May 4, 2025
29
If not SN, I imagine my best bet will be charcoal. I don't want anything that will be too painful, so I'm not sure about partial hanging, and the inert gas method seems rather expensive. I haven't looked in to the cocktail yet, but I imagine it wouldn't be easy to obtain.
 

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