Method What is the best gun of the following for ctb through either temple or mouth?

[KillingPain267]

1. Taurus 605 i.38 cali
2. Glock 43 9mm
3. Sig Sauer P238 i .380
4. Kimber Crimson, 45 cali
5. Walter PPS
6. Springfield XD 9mm
7. Spanish Llama Maximax ,45 cali
8. S&W 9MM,
9. S&W model 36 J fram ,38

 

[ParalyzedVeteran]

Every one of those will get the job done. Since the pistol's next destination is the big grinder you might as well donate the cheapest. The Llama and the Taurus would be best.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

None of the above. You said "best", right?

 

[KillingPain267]

None of the above. You said "best", right?

Best of the following in the list

 

[HereWeGo!]

Just give me one of those and I would be very satisfied!

 

[L'absent]

If you're evaluating effectiveness based on lethality and penetration, the .45 ACP (Kimber Crimson or Spanish Llama) and the 9mm (Glock 43, Springfield XD, S&W 9mm, Walther PPS) are the best choices. The .45 has more stopping power and transfers more energy, but the 9mm has more reliable penetration. The .38 Special and .380 ACP are weaker and might not guarantee an immediate effect, especially with a temple shot, where trajectory matters a lot. With an intraoral shot, both the .45 and 9mm have a very high probability of being instantly lethal, while smaller calibers may have more variable outcomes. If you want scientific precision, you also need to consider ammunition type and distance, but in practical terms, the 9mm and .45 ACP are statistically the ones that leave no way out.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

#4 seems to me cause it's 45 caliber.

if it's similar to this one it's a hand cannon



but if i were doing it i would prefer a 12 gauge shotgun breneke slug , or .300 or 338 win mag rifle to the head or inside mouth , all these 3 can take down a 1000 pound 10 foot tall grizly bear so i think my head won;t have a chance if i hit my head but how can i miss if i put it against my head.

look at this . they shot bears from a distance from a helicopter. the breneke slug ruined too much meat which means a lot of the insides were destroyed . a contact shot touching the head impacts orders of magnitude more power than from a distance

Brenneke slugs and bears?

Picked up a 500a this weekend and my mind started to wander. Brenneke are supposed to be the medicine for bears. Any experience 50 yards and closer in a defense situation? Specifically looking at the Green Lightening for a 12 gauge. I'm not trying to start a debate on shotgun, rifle, pistol...

rokslide.com

"ADFG did an extensive bear control near a village a few years back. Shooting from a heli, they killed 80+ in a few days....black and grizzly. Many of the bears were recovered for villagers to process meat. Villagers complained that the Brenneke slugs ruined too much meat. When the shooter switched to the old Foster slugs, it took more shots to down the bear but they could "eat right up to the hole". IIRC, they did another shoot the next year, with similar results, and moose numbers rebounded."

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Best of the following in the list

I saw that. I heard you. My answer is still none of them.

 

[KillingPain267]

Do you guys think this is legit? Lol. He sells these off Telegram, in groups where I also buy my drugs. The price is less than 700 USD.

 

[Endofpain]

I would never trust a 9mm

 

[KillingPain267]

I saw that. I heard you. My answer is still none of them.

Why is that?

I would never trust a 9mm

Care to elaborate?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

Why is that?

Because if I resort to using a firearm, I'm going to use the one with the least chance of failure and that is a 12ga shotgun. If by some chance I can't carry out my ctb via CO, such as for physical reasons, my 12ga is my backup plan to get out quickly.

 

[KillingPain267]

Because if I resort to using a firearm, I'm going to use the one with the least chance of failure and that is a 12ga shotgun. If by some chance I can't carry out my ctb via CO, such as for physical reasons, my 12ga is my backup plan to get out quickly.

I have no way of getting anything bigger than what is on the list. Is the chance of failure really that high? My other choice is SN.

 

[ForeverLonely82]

most say mouth because the goal is the destroy the brain stem. That will do it. however I am sure if you use the proper bullet to the temple that would suffice, but I imagine suffering for a few seconds (or heaven forbid minutes or hours!) is a high probability.

 

[KillingPain267]

most say mouth because the goal is the destroy the brain stem. That will do it. however I am sure if you use the proper bullet to the temple that would suffice, but I imagine suffering for a few seconds (or heaven forbid minutes or hours!) is a high probability.

Between these guns and SN, what do you think is the best bet?

 

[tpboy]

without a doubt the smith j frame 38 revolver. you want a double action revolver because of the nice light crisp trigger pull and the fact it's going to fire 100 percent of the time when the hammer drops. just make sure that you have a good aiming point,

 

[ForeverLonely82]

Between these guns and SN, what do you think is the best bet?

that's a double edged sword. I want to say gun because it's instant if done right, but if not you'll end up far more fucked afterwards. SN on the other hand is a waiting game and (I could be wrong) if you screw up on SN there isn't any lasting damage in the same vein as a fail gun suicide. If it were me. I'd choose the gun, the waiting for the SN to kick in would cause me to psyche myself out into a major panic attack.

 

[KillingPain267]

without a doubt the smith j frame 38 revolver. you want a double action revolver because of the nice light crisp trigger pull and the fact it's going to fire 100 percent of the time when the hammer drops. just make sure that you have a good aiming point,

This one?

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I have no way of getting anything bigger than what is on the list. Is the chance of failure really that high? My other choice is SN.

Most gunshots to the head are fatal. I don't know what the chance of failure would be. I guess, obviously, stay away from the smaller calibers. Certainly no .22s. Me, I'd rule out .380s, too. SN, imo, has an even higher chance of failure. Again, as far as guns go from your list, if I had to choose, it would certainly be one of the 9mm guns or one of the .45. Really, they're about the same. Yes, the .45 is a larger bullet, but it's slower than the 9mm, which will penetrate more. I'm not sure that matters with a point blank shot, though. With hollowpoint ammo, they both do devastating damage.