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Justwannbehappy

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Aug 1, 2020
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I have been struggling with depression since I was 13 and I realized the only things I saw when I looked around me were sadness and despair. I forgot the last day I did not have to convince myself to get out of bed and do something productive. I keep telling myself that one day it will all magically get better, but when is that day really going to come? Will I even see that day?

Apart from that, knowing that I cannot express my feelings to anyone in my life is tearing me apart. I tried to confess my thoughts to my best friend, the only person that I truly loved in my entire life, and he just shrugged it off like it was none of his business. He always used to tell me that he'd always be by my side, but I now realize that it all was just a sick fucking joke.

Is this all life has to offer?
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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Your post reminded me of Gautama Buddha, who looked around and saw suffering, and devoted his life to seeking an end to suffering, and that's what his enlightenment was about, the four noble truths of suffering. Enlightenment doesn't mean getting high and happy, it means full understanding, which is grounding, not "out there."

I'm not a Buddhist but I study Buddhism and there is much that makes sense, and I also think Gautama was somewhat of an ass, which is actually quite helpful and keeps me out of an unquestioning cultlike mentality. Sometimes making sense of things releases unnecessary suffering caused by illusions and attachment to them. I highly recommend reading about the four noble truths, and if you want to go further, the book In the Buddha's Words, which is based on the earliest written records to get as close as possible to Gautama's original foundational teachings. I also recommend reading about the eight wordly winds or vicissitudes of life.

From a philosophical perspective, there's a lot of good stuff in Buddhism. Along with Stoicism, which has a lot of overlap and is, to me, more practical to practice than meditation, they are complementary philosophies that help me to manage with my eyes open the shit of life you talk about, because it's not going to go away. It's always been around. Mindfulness, awareness, whatever you want to call it, it's not a high, it's not woo-woo, it's recognizing the shit as well as the good, which is temporary (and therefore bound up with suffering), being mindful through all of it and not clinging to any of it, and therefore having a level of well-being and equanimity throughout both the highs and the lows so that neither throws one off balance. I prefer Buddhism as a philosophy rather than a religious community or practice, just as I enjoy Stoicism as a philosophy. As the Stoic philosopher Epictetus said, one goes to philosophy as one goes to the hospital when one is ill. That's also why one goes to religion, which is also a philosophy. Both religion and secular philosophy bring healing and guidance for the spirit, which experiences all as well as provides a compass, only with religion there is the illusion that a deity is on one's side, which can help with feeling supported but can also harm. Philosophy has soothed me and helped me to maintain and fortify my grounding after realizing there are no higher beings supporting me, but there is something higher in everyone that they can connect with; in Stoicism, it is one's virtues.

Let me know if you want any resources, I'm happy to share, but don't want to push if you're not interested. My thing may not be your thing. You may seek different answers, or different paths to finding answers. Every path can directly and indirectly reveal much just for having engaged with it. That's also what philosophy is about, besides medicine and guidance -- it's about seeking answers, seeking truth or, really, Truth. That activity is something life has to offer.
 
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Belit667

Belit667

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Aug 2, 2020
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Sheeple cannot offer any advice. Decide what your sense of life is or succumb into darkness and despair.
Sorry.
 
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Bruces

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May 11, 2020
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I wish I knew what the point was,I'd have been quite happy not existing then all this shit was heaped on me!!
 
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Belit667

Belit667

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Aug 2, 2020
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Are you going to ctb right away or giving life another chance?
 
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timeisnigh

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Jul 30, 2020
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You're in good company, with Camus. There is only one serious philosophical question, and that is suicide. "Myth of Sisyphus"
 
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Deleted member 17949

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May 9, 2020
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Same bro ngl. Been stuck like this since 14 and it only gets worse and worse. I honestly really thought I could manage but what's the point, if it's just going to be an endless chain of convincing myself to do simple things so that I can become organised enough to do other things then I don't want to live. Also definitely sucks not having anyone irl I can ever speak to about this. Dying defeated and alone is kinda depressing, big sad hours.

I do hope something can get better for you though, sucks seeing people like this.
 
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Living_Hurts_so_Much

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I wish I knew what the point was,I'd have been quite happy not existing then all this shit was heaped on me!!
Me exactly. If I was asked if I wanted this, I'd be like NFW
 
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Leshen

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There is absolutely no point.

One night in times long since vanished, man awoke and saw himself. He saw that he was naked under the cosmos, homeless in his own body. Everything opened up before his searching thoughts, wonder upon wonder, terror upon terror, all blossomed in his mind.Then woman awoke, too, and said that it was time to go out and kill something. And man took up his bow, fruit of the union between the soul and the hand, and went out under the stars. But when the animals came to their water-hole, where he out of habit waited for them, he no longer knew the spring of the tiger in his blood, but a great psalm to the brotherhood of suffering shared by all that lives.That day he came home with empty hands, and when they found him again by the rising of the new moon, he sat dead by the waterhole.
 

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