Discussion What if suicide was just a part of life?

[Life_and_Death]

I'm not going to put my own thoughts. I'm want to leave a blank canvas. I'm curious how you guys feel about it. Hypothetically (so please don't go all "that will never happen" humour me please) what if everyone did stop being a dick to each other. There's no need for jails or anything. Everyone's just nice and honestly supportive of each other. Would suicide still be a thing? Or do you think that suicide is just a part of life and will always be whether there's a reason or not?

I do have my own opinion but like I said I want to leave a blank canvas. Thoughts?

 

[FarAcrossTheWater]

What do you mean? Do you mean if suicide was socially acceptable?

 

[Life_and_Death]

What do you mean? Do you mean if suicide was socially acceptable?

No. If being suicidal was just a part of life. The thought of suicide a disorder of itself the way one might be born without a leg. It's just a thing. It's there and that's its

Edit: I think I see what you mean. By leaving room for different options I clouded the question. I'll take that part out.

 

[DivineMedicus]

People with terminal illnesses might opt for suicide.

 

[Aloken]

Suicide will always be there as an option, thought and act. As long as pain exists, in all its forms, as long as people don't know how to solve all of their problems, as long as problems exist, suicide will be there. It's not only about people being nice to you. There's always going to be a valid reason, there are tons of valid reasons (disease, fear, anxiety, boredom, philosophical/existential choice, pain, abuse, literally everything). Rather, every reason is valid for the one considering suicide

 

[untimelydemise]

it kinda is as death but in the past like ancient it was seen a lot like in mythology and shakespear it was just looked at kinda normally. much easier if it was i mean we dont get ti control much in this life not our birth so surely we should control our death. it belonga to us there4 why should we be stopped from doing something from ourselves. its up to us. like we can choose to drink druga etc food so why not death

 

[GarageKarate07]

I'm not going to put my own thoughts. I'm want to leave a blank canvas. I'm curious how you guys feel about it. Hypothetically (so please don't go all "that will never happen" humour me please) what if everyone did stop being a dick to each other. There's no need for jails or anything. Everyone's just nice and honestly supportive of each other. Would suicide still be a thing? Or do you think that suicide is just a part of life and will always be whether there's a reason or not?

I do have my own opinion but like I said I want to leave a blank canvas. Thoughts?

I think sometimes happiness can make people sad because they might feel they don't deserve it themselves and this makes them lash out. I think we all have this. In a world where NO CHILDREN are abused or neglected AND treated with nothing but love through all of our adult lives? Yeah, I think suicide would take a huge drop. Loving each other the world over is not that damn hard. It's rediculous to me that no generation has done work to achieve that yet including ours. I think chasing down unneeded deaths (war and famine) and suicides and actually fixing those problems so people could heal would be a very easy endeavor.

 

[Superdeterminist]

Yes, I do think suicide would still be a thing. I can say that personally, I'm not really suicidal because of other people - most of the time I'm grieving instead about: why do we have to age? (which isn't any humans' fault), why do we have to work? (again, not humans' fault), why am I not the person I want to be? And other problems not caused by humans. Of course, there are still many horrors that are caused by humans that warrant suicide and cause some people to ctb.

 

[Life_and_Death]

why do we have to work? (again, not humans' fault

i kinda think this ones humans fault. i personally prefer the barter system. if everyone helped each other we wouldnt need to work. if the big wigs at the top werent money hungry, again, we wouldnt need to work. along with other examples like these

 

[Superdeterminist]

i kinda think this ones humans fault. i personally prefer the barter system. if everyone helped each other we wouldnt need to work. if the big wigs at the top werent money hungry, again, we wouldnt need to work. along with other examples like these

I gets tricky because you have to define 'work'. But in my head, I define it simply as the exertion of effort. And often, I'm not in the mood to exert effort, and very often, we are required to exert great amounts of it to get what we want. Why does it have to be like that? Why can't I always be in the mood to exert the required effort to achieve my goals? Instead I have to do stuff even when I don't feel like it, and that's painful to me.

 

[Life_and_Death]

I gets tricky because you have to define 'work'. But in my head, I define it simply as the exertion of effort. And often, I'm not in the mood to exert effort, and very often, we are required to exert great amounts of it to get what we want. Why does it have to be like that? Why can't I always be in the mood to exert the required effort to achieve my goals? Instead I have to do stuff even when I don't feel like it, and that's painful to me.

correct me if im wrong i might have misread but if i didnt this is my view on it. you cant just sit around and be expected to handed things on a silver plater, that means other people have to work for you and what about them? whos going to server them? it just becomes another big wig situation and youre back to working for people

 

[Superdeterminist]

correct me if im wrong i might have misread but if i didnt this is my view on it. you cant just sit around and be expected to handed things on a silver plater, that means other people have to work for you and what about them? whos going to server them? it just becomes another big wig situation and youre back to working for people

Yes, I agree with that. I do feel obliged to work because I absolutely don't want other people working for me as if they were my slave or something, because work isn't fun most of the time. I tell myself things similar to your post all the time. But why is reality such that working isn't fun? Considering we have to do so much of it, it ought to be enjoyable. But it's just not, for the most part. That is a big reason why I hate reality and want to die - it is struggle after struggle, nothing seems to come naturally (to me).

 

[Ardesevent]

There would definitely be a drop. If everyone was nice to each other, all suicide caused by some form of abuse would go poof, and people might be more inclined to stay because they have people who support them, even if they don't understand them. Suicide because of things like mental illness would still be pretty prevalent, though.

 

[oneanonymous]

It may go down, but it would still exist. Other people aren't the only reason people commit suicide.

 

[262653]

What are the odds of a human dying? 100%.
What are the odds of human (randomly selected from the pool of all living humans) dying slowly and painfully? Looking at the list of leading causes of human deaths so generously provided to us by World Health Organization (as well as my general understanding and intuition about those causes of death), must be pretty high.
What are the odds that a randomly selected living human will die slowly and painfully? Pretty high * 100% = Pretty high.

Even if one lives a good life, suicide is still an appealing back-up plan and an alternative for the most of the natural causes of death.

 

[Alec]

Suicide will always be there as an option, thought and act. As long as pain exists, in all its forms, as long as people don't know how to solve all of their problems, as long as problems exist, suicide will be there. It's not only about people being nice to you. There's always going to be a valid reason, there are tons of valid reasons (disease, fear, anxiety, boredom, philosophical/existential choice, pain, abuse, literally everything). Rather, every reason is valid for the one considering suicide

I like this answer.

 

[LastFlowers]

Life basically is suicide, to live is to die.
So anyone who is pro-life and pro-sentient existence is actually pro-death, but they will never see it that way, and that's why they continue to deny others the choice to take that inevitable death into their own hands.

 

[Aelana]

Suicide will always be a thing. Even if there was a cure for depression people would still kill themselves. :p

 

[eclipse]

If people stopped doing horrible things to each other, suicide would definitely go down. But that's not the only reason why some would want to die. Being mistreated is not the only reason.

 

[BluesRunTheGame]

As long as people recognise that life is meaningless, suicide will always be a thing. And my prediction for the future is that this recognition will only increase.

 

[WornOutLife]

I agree with @BluesRunTheGame. Even if this world was perfect and there were neither crime nor bad people, I would still be suicidal because I find existing ridiculous and nonsense.

The only thing which could make me want to stay in this world is if somehow, some scientists, a "god", or whatever, explained to me the true meaning of life and the origin of everything. I hate living in a world and universe which I can't understand.

 

[diyCTB]

@WornOutLife Exactly my friend! We don't know the true origin, we don't know what is on the other side, we don't know if there is true purpose and if there is then what is that true purpose. Is pain and suffering worth that true purpose?

 

[FuneralCry]

If everyone was nice to eachother and supportive, I think it would reduce suicides, but the way that others are acting is not the only reasons why people ctb. Some people are just not meant for this life and physical and mental illnesses for example can make people want to ctb. Suicide is a part of life, even if most of the problems in this world were solved people would probably still want to ctb because of the pointlessness of existence.