Imhopeless

Imhopeless

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Jul 24, 2023
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This is the only thing that makes me hesitate, what if God exists and will punish me for trying to take away the precious life he gave me in the first place?

I'm not catholic, my family isn't strongly catholic either and I dont know where this fear came from. I'm not only talking about christian God, it can be any. What if there is a higher entity(honesty no idea if I spelled it right) and it will punish those who dare to commit such a sin?

I know I'm not the only one who's scared of such outcome. I wonder why people believe in this after becoming atheist or even when they are born into atheist families. Its really interesting how some can't find comfort in any religion but at the same time their fear is strong enough to make them hesitant
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I agree, it's a nagging fear for me also- even though I lean more towards atheism now. Still- what makes people believe they've done enough to get into heaven after natural death? I don't think I've lived a terrible life but I've more than likely already done enough to piss God off! Maybe the worst sin of all- the 'unforgiveable sin' to denounce or at least- strongly question the existence of God. Weird priorities though huh? That the gravest sin is not to be part of the fan club. Nevermind about murder, theft, adultery, rape- you say you're sorry, you're sound.

The other way I look at it though is- in my personal experience, I've much prefered the atheists I've come across in life. Not to say this is a general thing but in my life anyhow- they've been a lot kinder. A lot more caring towards others. I've known some fairly unpleasant (in my opinion) religious people. So- sometimes, I comfort myself with that. Why would I want to go to heaven anyway? It will be full of religious people! Not trying to insult the religious members here. I'm sure you're all very decent people. It isn't fair to generalise I realise. That's just been my own personal experience.

I kind of loved that interview by Freddy Mercury where he said he actually wanted to go to hell! Lol. I also really used to love 'dark rides' (indoor rollercoasters that travel through scenes.) There was once a proposal for such an attraction in a shopping centre in the UK which would have been called 'The Ride of Life.' They proposed an additional charge of 30p to see hell! They reckoned that would be more popular. Lol.

Personally, I hope there's neither a heaven or a hell now. I'm done with living full stop.
 
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ZeroM24

ZeroM24

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Oct 31, 2024
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I dont understand how anyone can even think God exists. Where does this fear come from? For me its like someone telling me he talks to people who are not there, its schizo behaviour. Religion is a mental illness.
 
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kuchenn1238

Draw a dog
Oct 2, 2023
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This is the only thing that makes me hesitate, what if God exists and will punish me for trying to take away the precious life he gave me in the first place?

I'm not catholic, my family isn't strongly catholic either and I dont know where this fear came from. I'm not only talking about christian God, it can be any. What if there is a higher entity(honesty no idea if I spelled it right) and it will punish those who dare to commit such a sin?

I know I'm not the only one who's scared of such outcome. I wonder why people believe in this after becoming atheist or even when they are born into atheist families. Its really interesting how some can't find comfort in any religion but at the same time their fear is strong enough to make them hesitant
I personally believe that if God actually exists, he would never punish someone who had to take the own life just to end their suffering, God isn't the one pastors tell you about.
 
ElVato

ElVato

Life is absurd.
Nov 9, 2024
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Arguably, god is not very forgiving when living is a torture on its own.

!!!What Is written next is not a fact and I'm not trying to get people to believe it is; this is just what I think/believe!!!

Due to our level of consciousness, we humans inevitably start wondering about two big questions: Why are we here and is there something else/after this. It's pretty sad to think that such great minds and souls just disappear into nothingness when we die; I think some intellects should be allowed to continue existing. However, the evidence seems to point that there is really nothing there.

This triggers a very powerful fear, the fear of trying to imagine what is like to not exist, because it's so abstract and alien that it feels like it burns your very soul just from thinking about it. This very fear is what has stopped me from ctb in previous attempts. This existential fear, I think, has lead humans to create a mythology of what might or even must be after all this. Why would there be suffering in this life if not because there is something greater afterwards, why wouldn't I, a sentient, sapient being deserve that.

Mythology and belief eventually becomes dogma a system, and it becomes a tool of control. Of course the church won't tell you ctb is fine: they need to keep the believers together and alive. Even ancient, more "primal" religions like, say, shinto, don't exactly bat an eye to this. As far as I've read, the most "positive" attitude you will find towards this will be stuff like "it's unfortunate but it was the person's destiny/free will".

For me, the greatest despair comes from the promise that life is eternal and that you will live again/forever. I really think that's horrible.
 
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pthnrdnojvsc

Extreme Pain is much worse than people know
Aug 12, 2019
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I dont understand how anyone can even think God exists. Where does this fear come from? For me its like someone telling me he talks to people who are not there, its schizo behaviour. Religion is a mental illness.
I don't see how anyone could believe in something there is no evidence for.

I think if someone really reads a book about molecular cell biology. you can see where life originated. how it all fits together. it's just a piece of chemistry.

Also add to that a book about the Brain one can see how it all fits together works and has to be true. the more you read the more certain it becomes this is what i am a brain , cells , how life started etc.
 
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vitbar

Escaped Lunatic
Jun 4, 2023
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Nobody has managed to convince me we can know what god wants from us. Maybe she hates blind faith for being unreasonable, maybe she only created us as somewhere interesting for bacteria to live, maybe anything. This all asuming there is god. I can only really do what seems right, or at least acceptable to me, while being open to changing my mind. Trying to please one of the possible forms of the fundamentally incomprehensible seems mental.
 
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Wonhun

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Nov 5, 2024
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Do enough research and you will find there is no god. Knowledge conquer fear.
 
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