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TinySlitsThatScream

TinySlitsThatScream

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Jan 28, 2025
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Never in my life I would have ever thought that BPD could one day actually concern me. But here I am, reading DSM-5, fitting through an alarming amount of criterias.

I know BPD is different for everyone, so if anyone diagnosed is willing to share their experiences :
What does BPD look like for you, on a daily basis, and during episodes ?
(Please keep anything related to self harm as SH, with no details, I am very sensitive to SH topic)
 
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It's hard to summarize to be honest.

I'll just skip entirely SH, you already know it's an usual behaviour from BPD.

Nowadays I'm a quiet BPD, but that was an evolution of BPD itself so I would be more likeable, have more people around and help (slightly, or just sometimes) to fill a little the void.

Guess that brings up one of our main stars. "The void". That sensation you have on your chest, like a black hole was eating you bit by bit, always there for you to feel anguish. It's usually more noticeable when you're alone or you're trapped in a thought loop.

So.. 2 main characters now mentioned, loops and loneliness.

Loneliness is always with you. It makes you feel like you're not worth, that you deserve to suffer, that no-one wants to be around you (that leads to another entire rabbit hole).. Many people would do insane things just to not feel lonely and help to fill the void, hence why the slightest thing on relationships... Explodes easily (Again.. more rabbit holes).

About loops. It's usual to get stuck on a thought again, and again and again. "Noone wants to be nearby me" for example. And obsess with that, leading to a crisis.

About exploding... Oh boy. Main characteristic of BPD is... Just having all your feels cranked to 11 out of 10. It's easy to control yourself if you twist your ankle right? But if you just shattered your bone... You'd scream, cry, beg... That's why on usual, we tend to overeact compared to other people, we simply feel more intensely.

If my wife just uses a "slightly" wrong word, I usually end up in a loop. "She chose that especially instead of..." That leads to "In reality she hates me" to "I'll always be completely alone in this world in the end" to worse ideas in my head.

One vantage point of being quite BPD is... I use all that anger, hate and bad emotions.. on myself. Which leads to worse mental health but...

It's less scary to others that when I was a teen and I used to hit the walls with all my force until I bled, badmouthing others when I was overwhelmed, doing risky things every damn second... And so on. As you can imagine... Pretty toxic to be around.

Also, gaslighting yourself is pretty usual, objectifying you, trying to fill the void with sex, or drugs..

I could go on and on and on... But I'm guessing that summarises it for me.
 
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TinySlitsThatScream

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It's hard to summarize to be honest.

I'll just skip entirely SH, you already know it's an usual behaviour from BPD.

Nowadays I'm a quiet BPD, but that was an evolution of BPD itself so I would be more likeable, have more people around and help (slightly, or just sometimes) to fill a little the void.

Guess that brings up one of our main stars. "The void". That sensation you have on your chest, like a black hole was eating you bit by bit, always there for you to feel anguish. It's usually more noticeable when you're alone or you're trapped in a thought loop.

So.. 2 main characters now mentioned, loops and loneliness.

Loneliness is always with you. It makes you feel like you're not worth, that you deserve to suffer, that no-one wants to be around you (that leads to another entire rabbit hole).. Many people would do insane things just to not feel lonely and help to fill the void, hence why the slightest thing on relationships... Explodes easily (Again.. more rabbit holes).

About loops. It's usual to get stuck on a thought again, and again and again. "Noone wants to be nearby me" for example. And obsess with that, leading to a crisis.

About exploding... Oh boy. Main characteristic of BPD is... Just having all your feels cranked to 11 out of 10. It's easy to control yourself if you twist your ankle right? But if you just shattered your bone... You'd scream, cry, beg... That's why on usual, we tend to overeact compared to other people, we simply feel more intensely.

If my wife just uses a "slightly" wrong word, I usually end up in a loop. "She chose that especially instead of..." That leads to "In reality she hates me" to "I'll always be completely alone in this world in the end" to worse ideas in my head.

One vantage point of being quite BPD is... I use all that anger, hate and bad emotions.. on myself. Which leads to worse mental health but...

It's less scary to others that when I was a teen and I used to hit the walls with all my force until I bled, badmouthing others when I was overwhelmed, doing risky things every damn second... And so on. As you can imagine... Pretty toxic to be around.

Also, gaslighting yourself is pretty usual, objectifying you, trying to fill the void with sex, or drugs..

I could go on and on and on... But I'm guessing that summarises it for me.

Thank you for answering, because it's easier for me to understand experiences rather than plain explanation.

As I was reading, I related to you in some of yours feelings, whether it was in other situations or directly. I'm considering going on therapy again, at best with a psychiatrist, to at least get some valid answers.

Again, thank you for sharing, you helped me a lot.
 
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Thank you for answering, because it's easier for me to understand experiences rather than plain explanation.

As I was reading, I related to you in some of yours feelings, whether it was in other situations or directly. I'm considering going on therapy again, at best with a psychiatrist, to at least get some valid answers.

Again, thank you for sharing, you helped me a lot.
You're more than welcome, I'm happy to help, feel free to reach if you have more questions or things I can help with.

If it helps... I always thought therapy was a waste of time since I did not have a lot of luck with the therapist I had.

But recently (few months ago) I started with another one which seems to be at least... Useful. I'm not "fine" as you'd imagine, but at the very least she helps me understand why I think the way I think and tricks to, slowly, get it a bit under control.

So good luck and well done, going to therapy is pretty much the only way to fight against this, I'm happy you took that route.
 
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futurecorpse

Aren't We All?
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What does BPD look like for you, on a daily basis, and during episodes ?
(Please keep anything related to self harm as SH, with no details, I am very sensitive to SH topic)
On a daily basis, I feel incredibly alone, lonely, angry, and depressed. With bpd those feelings are heightened x100. I always feel rejected, abandoned, and ignored. Even when people are busy with their own lives, I still feel that way. I just want someone to pay attention to me.

When I have a romantic favorite person (fp), all hell breaks loose. I immediately become attached to him and see him as this wonderful man who might be able to fulfill my needs - love me, hold me, pay attention to me, spend quality time with me - all things I didn't really receive as a child and teenager. The attachment turns to limerence and I'll find myself obsessing over him. Looking past his red flags and the fact that he's emotionally unavailable. He'll be on my mind constantly and yet I doubt I'm on his. That's usually how it goes. And if he's not able to meet my needs, I'll take it out on myself by SH-ing. A lot of my symptoms are internalized and the only external symptom is yelling. I'll have a full mental breakdown and spiral out of control. But when he sends me a text out of the blue, all is right again. But only for a while. Then the cycle repeats.
Having a fp triggers my episodes. Feeling rejected and abandoned, even if it's not really happening, triggers me. It's hell on earth living with this disorder. How can I live a quality life with bpd? I'm in therapy, did dbt, and do emdr. But nothing's helping. I've had the same fp for almost 2 years and the last time I had one was 5 years ago. I'm restraining myself with this one, but I've already done some toxic shit. He doesn't want date me because of what I (secretly) did. He only wants one thing from me anyway. But at least I get to spend some time with him.
Having a diagnosis helped me because no sane person would be acting like this, let alone to this extremity.
If you plan on getting a diagnosis, I hope it can help you on planning your course of treatment if that's what you'd like to do. Bpd is so misunderstood, but those who have it, understand each other.
 
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TinySlitsThatScream

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On a daily basis, I feel incredibly alone, lonely, angry, and depressed. With bpd those feelings are heightened x100. I always feel rejected, abandoned, and ignored. Even when people are busy with their own lives, I still feel that way. I just want someone to pay attention to me.

When I have a romantic favorite person (fp), all hell breaks loose. I immediately become attached to him and see him as this wonderful man who might be able to fulfill my needs - love me, hold me, pay attention to me, spend quality time with me - all things I didn't really receive as a child and teenager. The attachment turns to limerence and I'll find myself obsessing over him. Looking past his red flags and the fact that he's emotionally unavailable. He'll be on my mind constantly and yet I doubt I'm on his. That's usually how it goes. And if he's not able to meet my needs, I'll take it out on myself by SH-ing. A lot of my symptoms are internalized and the only external symptom is yelling. I'll have a full mental breakdown and spiral out of control. But when he sends me a text out of the blue, all is right again. But only for a while. Then the cycle repeats.
Having a fp triggers my episodes. Feeling rejected and abandoned, even if it's not really happening, triggers me. It's hell on earth living with this disorder. How can I live a quality life with bpd? I'm in therapy, did dbt, and do emdr. But nothing's helping. I've had the same fp for almost 2 years and the last time I had one was 5 years ago. I'm restraining myself with this one, but I've already done some toxic shit. He doesn't want date me because of what I (secretly) did. He only wants one thing from me anyway. But at least I get to spend some time with him.
Having a diagnosis helped me because no sane person would be acting like this, let alone to this extremity.
If you plan on getting a diagnosis, I hope it can help you on planning your course of treatment if that's what you'd like to do. Bpd is so misunderstood, but those who have it, understand each other.
Thank you for your answer, a lot.
Unfortunately I do feel the same, but sometimes I wonder if it's not being a HSP (highly sensitive person) speaking.
Though, could you tell me what FP, DBT and EMDR mean ?
 
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My dad is likely the type of borderline who after a chaotic hectic life reforms and quiets down in old age, from discipline and a committed effort to do so
 
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futurecorpse

Aren't We All?
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Thank you for your answer, a lot.
Unfortunately I do feel the same, but sometimes I wonder if it's not being a HSP (highly sensitive person) speaking.
Though, could you tell me what FP, DBT and EMDR mean ?
You're welcome :) There's def a difference between the two, and being a hsp doesn't necessarily mean someone has bpd. The two can coexist though. I'm also a hsp. I think having the proper diagnosis would help things make more sense if there's still some confusion and uncertainty
FP = favorite person
DBT = dialectical behavior therapy
EMDR = eye movement desensitization and reprocessing. A therapy technique used to treat trauma
 
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JoysoftheEmptiness

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I was diagnosed with EUPD with borderline traits?????? Psyches are sometimes more insane than we are :pfff:
 
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Formerly pinkribbonscars
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I was diagnosed with bpd in the mental hospital. The doctors there agreed I do not have bipolar II like I was previously diagnosed with, but I know bipolar is still on my file. I'm considering getting another assessment and looking to remove the diagnosis. I did not want a diagnosis of bpd due to the stigma but I have one now and I am tired of doctors worrying I'm going to get hypomanic on anti-depressants. DBT is effective for me, and lithium, depokate, and other bipolar meds made me worse. I think that's a clear sign bipolar ain't it, but if it is I'll have to deal with it. An assessment with a mention of every diagnosis I've received (there are many) is likely best. Fortunately more and more doctors are realizing it's a very treatable condition. The stigma is lifting, but it still exists, so be careful.

For me bpd is not an episode, but more of a state of being (it's classified as a personality disorder for a reason.) I do have co-occurring major depression. Those are episodes. I think bpd for me was a mix of genetic factors (I'm extremely sensitive and experience strong emotions, which is something that has been evident since early childhood and is considered a core bpd trait) and childhood trauma. I was never taught how to deal with my temperament, and was even scolded for it or taught it was a character flaw. Since I never learned how to deal with these emotions, it morphed into bpd. Well, that's my theory anyway. I ought to discuss this with a doctor or therapist.

I've heard fear of abandonment is the core of bpd, but that's not really the case for me. In fact, I wondered if I actually had bpd because I didn't think I feared abandonment and I like to be alone. I realized I do, and prefer solitude because then no one will leave me. I don't really fit the excessively clingy bpd stereotype. I am more likely to push people away to avoid abandonment rather than convince them to stay.

I think the fear of abandonment comes from the emotional liability aspect. I need someone to lean on to help me cope with my emotions, and I know my emotions make me hard to handle, so I worry people will leave me constantly. It is- once again- why I choose to remain by my lonesome, as it prevents abandonment entirely, and I'm convinced it will happen eventually, so why even form a relationship? It also leads me to be with toxic people who I know will never leave me, which causes unstable relationships. So do the mood swings, as I flip on a dime (idealization and devaluation.)

My emotional liability makes me more sensitive to stress, and more impulsive. I experience inappropriate outbursts due to my intensity. Quitting jobs, shoplifting, self harm, suicide attempts, substance abuse, reckless sex, binge eating: these were all coping skills for my emotions that I relied on because they were instant gratification and I just couldn't take the pain so why do healthy things? It's too hard and not as immediate as self-destruction. The mood swings also lead to an identity confusion. My feelings changing like the wind also leads to me questioning myself. My identity is tied to my emotions.

Do look into ADHD. I would argue ADHD is under diagnosed in women, whereas bpd is overdiagnosed (unless you're a minor or aren't difficult; then you're bipolar II.) although it's not in the dsm V, it's been established that emotional dysregulation is the core of adhd, and impulsivity is a symptom. The conditions have a lot in common. The two are commonly comorbid (I think that's the case for me, but once again I ought to get an assessment to know for sure, but adhd was diagnosed at ten and it's been suggested I get tested for adult adhd as well.)

TLDR; emotional dysregulation is a bitch. Distress tolerance is a skill taught in dbt for a reason.
 
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Thank you for your answer, a lot.
Unfortunately I do feel the same, but sometimes I wonder if it's not being a HSP (highly sensitive person) speaking.
Though, could you tell me what FP, DBT and EMDR mean ?
If it helps (I'm no medical professional by any mean imaginable,).

I think one key difference from BPD vs HSP is the swings in mood. If you get to -100 to 100 (and vice versa ) almost immediately it's a symptom on BPD.

A person with just HSP wouldn't go UP! DOWN! UP AGAIN!, it'll react more than a "standard" person, but not that heavily that fast, "the curve on the mood change would be softened instead of just spikes).
 
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As a survivor of a BPD father I struggle with depression and CPTSD caused by the physical and mental abuse. All I can say is props to me and my mom for surviving.
 
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I was diagnosed with bpd in the mental hospital. The doctors there agreed I do not have bipolar II like I was previously diagnosed with, but I know bipolar is still on my file. I'm considering getting another assessment and looking to remove the diagnosis. I did not want a diagnosis of bpd due to the stigma but I have one now and I am tired of doctors worrying I'm going to get hypomanic on anti-depressants. DBT is effective for me, and lithium, depokate, and other bipolar meds made me worse. I think that's a clear sign bipolar ain't it, but if it is I'll have to deal with it. An assessment with a mention of every diagnosis I've received (there are many) is likely best. Fortunately more and more doctors are realizing it's a very treatable condition. The stigma is lifting, but it still exists, so be careful.

For me bpd is not an episode, but more of a state of being (it's classified as a personality disorder for a reason.) I do have co-occurring major depression. Those are episodes. I think bpd for me was a mix of genetic factors (I'm extremely sensitive and experience strong emotions, which is something that has been evident since early childhood and is considered a core bpd trait) and childhood trauma. I was never taught how to deal with my temperament, and was even scolded for it or taught it was a character flaw. Since I never learned how to deal with these emotions, it morphed into bpd. Well, that's my theory anyway. I ought to discuss this with a doctor or therapist.

I've heard fear of abandonment is the core of bpd, but that's not really the case for me. In fact, I wondered if I actually had bpd because I didn't think I feared abandonment and I like to be alone. I realized I do, and prefer solitude because then no one will leave me. I don't really fit the excessively clingy bpd stereotype. I am more likely to push people away to avoid abandonment rather than convince them to stay.

I think the fear of abandonment comes from the emotional liability aspect. I need someone to lean on to help me cope with my emotions, and I know my emotions make me hard to handle, so I worry people will leave me constantly. It is- once again- why I choose to remain by my lonesome, as it prevents abandonment entirely, and I'm convinced it will happen eventually, so why even form a relationship? It also leads me to be with toxic people who I know will never leave me, which causes unstable relationships. So do the mood swings, as I flip on a dime (idealization and devaluation.)

My emotional liability makes me more sensitive to stress, and more impulsive. I experience inappropriate outbursts due to my intensity. Quitting jobs, shoplifting, self harm, suicide attempts, substance abuse, reckless sex, binge eating: these were all coping skills for my emotions that I relied on because they were instant gratification and I just couldn't take the pain so why do healthy things? It's too hard and not as immediate as self-destruction. The mood swings also lead to an identity confusion. My feelings changing like the wind also leads to me questioning myself. My identity is tied to my emotions.

Do look into ADHD. I would argue ADHD is under diagnosed in women, whereas bpd is overdiagnosed (unless you're a minor or aren't difficult; then you're bipolar II.) although it's not in the dsm V, it's been established that emotional dysregulation is the core of adhd, and impulsivity is a symptom. The conditions have a lot in common. The two are commonly comorbid (I think that's the case for me, but once again I ought to get an assessment to know for sure, but adhd was diagnosed at ten and it's been suggested I get tested for adult adhd as well.)

TLDR; emotional dysregulation is a bitch. Distress tolerance is a skill taught in dbt for a reason.
Thank you a lot for sharing your experience, especially this detailed.
Let me wonder that diagnosis might not be helping much, since it might lead to misdiagnosis and, well, very often stigmatization and stereotypes.
Thank you again, and wishing you the best.
If it helps (I'm no medical professional by any mean imaginable,).

I think one key difference from BPD vs HSP is the swings in mood. If you get to -100 to 100 (and vice versa ) almost immediately it's a symptom on BPD.

A person with just HSP wouldn't go UP! DOWN! UP AGAIN!, it'll react more than a "standard" person, but not that heavily that fast, "the curve on the mood change would be softened instead of just spikes).
Now that you wrote this, it is true my mood swings often go from feeling nothing or emptiness, to -100, but then it takes a very long time to come back to normal, it often kills my day, or leads me to multiple days were I am still on a breakdown.
 
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As a survivor of a BPD father I struggle with depression and CPTSD caused by the physical and mental abuse. All I can say is props to me and my mom for surviving.
I'm sorry that happened to you. BPD is rough. I've been basically an abusive monster to people because I hate myself so much that I'll hurt others to reinforce my belief that I'm awful, or to push them away to avoid rejection/abandonment.

Generational trauma is real. My mom was officially diagnosed (she rejects it of course,) and I strongly believe my grandma has bpd traits. She used to scold and punish me for self harming. When I recovered she admitted to me years later she put cigarettes out on herself as a youth! Projection much?

I'm child free by choice because I don't want to repeat those mistakes. People with bpd often mean well, but the deep pain, self-hatred and fear of abandonment leaves them toxic when their needs aren't meant. Recovery for me means self love, self-awareness, accountability, and acceptance. I'm so sick of hurting others and bringing them down with me, even if it's subconscious/unintentional most of the time.

I hope your father got his comeuppance and that you're free. Hopefully you can heal from the damage he's caused you and your mom, and will or has taken accountability. Bpd people deserve compassion but it doesn't make them easy to deal with at all when they're not in recovery.


Thank you a lot for sharing your experience, especially this detailed.
Let me wonder that diagnosis might not be helping much, since it might lead to misdiagnosis and, well, very often stigmatization and stereotypes.
Thank you again, and wishing you the best.

Thanks for reading all that!

I absolutely think there is a lot of misogyny at the heart of bpd treatment and diagnosis, which also harms and underserves men with the condition. However the stigma is lifting, especially since it's now known to be highly treatable. I had a counselor tell me bpd clients were some of her favorites! If you think it's a fit, go for a diagnosis. Look into a comprehensive assessment, share all past diagnoses, and seek a second opinion if necessary. I plan to do that eventually, but I'm too exhausted to do that now. Just be your biggest self-advocate, essentially. The stereotypes suck, but don't let them hold you back. Fight if you can. For me the framework of bpd has been helpful, but I do exercise caution yes. That it can have limitations or stigma doesn't mean it can't be liberating in the correct hands.
 
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Thank you a lot for sharing your experience, especially this detailed.
Let me wonder that diagnosis might not be helping much, since it might lead to misdiagnosis and, well, very often stigmatization and stereotypes.
Thank you again, and wishing you the best.

Now that you wrote this, it is true my mood swings often go from feeling nothing or emptiness, to -100, but then it takes a very long time to come back to normal, it often kills my day, or leads me to multiple days were I am still on a breakdown.
If It takes long time to stabilise... It's a symptom it may be BPD.

Do you mind sharing you approximate age?
It's normally easier to diagnose on those under 23-ish.

Also... You can always go to the doctor and ask directly about it if it's something that worries you.
 
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Feels like a Rollercoaster with no end, like feeling any emotion can amplified by 50.

Feeling alone most of the time even tho you have people around you.

Depression being a bitch
Sh- punishment or idk to self regulate

Uncontrollable anger

Like self regulating can take a long time
Plus not to mention , getting close to someone very quickly for like saying 1 nice thing about you , then idolize them and wanting to know everything about them.

Then they say something you don't like and disowned them completely

And feel like an absolute awful person that the right choice is to go to sleep permanently

this is more me mostly, other people can experience things differently
 
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If It takes long time to stabilise... It's a symptom it may be BPD.

Do you mind sharing you approximate age?
It's normally easier to diagnose on those under 23-ish.

Also... You can always go to the doctor and ask directly about it if it's something that worries you.
I'm 18, supposed 19 next month.
I've also already talked about potentiality with my doctor but she isn't medically skilled to make further diagnosis or not.
 
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Temporary Breakway

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Jan 9, 2025
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Never in my life I would have ever thought that BPD could one day actually concern me. But here I am, reading DSM-5, fitting through an alarming amount of criterias.

I know BPD is different for everyone, so if anyone diagnosed is willing to share their experiences :
What does BPD look like for you, on a daily basis, and during episodes ?
(Please keep anything related to self harm as SH, with no details, I am very sensitive to SH topic)
Idk much about borderlines but I know this
My dad likely is but likely the type that mellows out significantly in old age after a life of pure chaos And running around place to place with reckless abandon, reforms themselves significantly simply out of necessity and the fact they can't really be like that aanymore
He would rage randomly in a way typical of bpd, and then almost immediately regret it deeply
Interesting old man
 
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Idk much about borderlines but I know this
My dad likely is but likely the type that mellows out significantly in old age after a life of pure chaos And running around place to place with reckless abandon, reforms themselves significantly simply out of necessity and the fact they can't really be like that aanymore
He would rage randomly in a way typical of bpd, and then almost immediately regret it deeply
Interesting old man
Bpd tends to get better with age. It was at its peak in my mid teens and twenties haha.
 
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Bpd means borderline
Oh I heard someone here say bipolar
But he for sure is
He also has the typical borderline level of empathy that is like
"Yeah, I've been there, I feel you, this is my experience, I've been through something similar"
I feel a little dumb
 
manicstreetbeeper

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Feb 14, 2025
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for myself, my worst symptoms kind of fluctuate, but usually they are:

• intense anger
• mood swings
• lack of sense of identity (this one really gets to me, quite badly)

a lot of my anger comes from the fact that i have Borderline in the first place. i have not accepted my trauma, i've made attempts to, but there is quite a lot of it. the only way i find BPD/trauma truly helps me is that i do things out of spite now. i do anything that provides a sense of control, like taking control of my physical actions, even if i feel i cannot always control my thoughts or emotions.

i won't go into detail about most of what i'm taking control of here in case it is triggering, but one thing i'm pushing through well on is quitting cigarettes/nicotine cold turkey, no gum or patch, after smoking half a pack a day for awhile.

tldr; it sucks, it makes life and relationships incredibly difficult, it's not fair, and i'm doing whatever i can about it.
 
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