Discussion What do you think about young people choosing to die?

[tonyspitstain]

Recently I've seen lots of social media posts about young students who have everything going for them choosing to die. Examples: Aubrey Wyatt, Paige Hoffman, London DeShields, Charlotte O'Brien, Kailia Posey, and there are more.
Also, this case of a boarding school student.
There are also Kpop and Kdrama stars who seemingly have everything including beauty and money and if they really wanted to, I'm sure they could retire or move abroad to get out of the limelight.
Of course not everything is as it seems in pictures and I am sure they were all really struggling. But it really is hard for me to understand why (esp for the kids) they felt that it was the only way out. They seem to have supportive families, money, and their physical health. I know that it isn't that simple, but those factors usually help people through difficult times. Let me know what y'all think.

 

[Hollowman]

Idk but I wish I would've went through with my plan when I was 12.

 

[Judah]

Recently I've seen lots of social media posts about young students who have everything going for them choosing to die. Examples: Aubrey Wyatt, Paige Hoffman, London DeShields, Charlotte O'Brien, Kailia Posey, and there are more.
Also, this case of a boarding school student.
There are also Kpop and Kdrama stars who seemingly have everything including beauty and money and if they really wanted to, I'm sure they could retire or move abroad to get out of the limelight.
Of course not everything is as it seems in pictures and I am sure they were all really struggling. But it really is hard for me to understand why (esp for the kids) they felt that it was the only way out. They seem to have supportive families, money, and their physical health. I know that it isn't that simple, but those factors usually help people through difficult times. Let me know what y'all think.

It's complicated, sometimes having everything doesn't mean you're happy and instead you feel like your life is so resolved that you feel empty

Those people simply want to escape from an empty existence because little by little the things that make them stay in this world lose value for them

 

[tonyspitstain]

Oh also, I find it crazy that most of these girls prob died by hanging. They look like popular girls at school. It is insane to imagine a bubbly rich popular girl choosing that as their method because it can be so brutal.

 

[divinemistress36]

Mental illness doesnt care how good your life is

 

[dumbnhappy]

I don't think death is the end. I don't think death is evil. I think suffering, especially prolonged suffering, is the worst. Of course I love children and would never hope to see a child be in so much pain that they choose to die, but I really believe that death is an escape from pain. There is always a reason these young people want to die, and no one cares until they go through with it

 

[Namelesa]

As a 19 year old I might be able to explain. In my early life I suffered greatly from school. It wasn't that I wasn't smart enough. It was just the pressure and the grueling long hours. It was a stressful boring torturous slog which has basically decreased by tolerance to mental pain. I just wanted to be safe at home. I didn't really had friends either so i felt lonely too but I was in denial that I wanted friends. I just wasn't made to deal with the normal society environments.

Covid saved me from school I was able to get a little better but when i went to college where I did incredibly well in my course. I also got into my first relationship who was also my first real friend. However she broke up with me after like 2 months and it destroyed me. I actually tasted what having a friend is like and more and I now felt worthless and empty without it. This lead me to drop out on year 2 of my college course and cemented me to have a big fear of abandonment. I felt empty and that everything was boring.

I did get into another relationship a year later but it was too intense and unstable cus of our mental problems to it ended after a year and a bit. This one had me constantly on fear of him abandoning me and I felt like he wasn't doing enough for me which lead me to showing some of my worst traits.

Since then I have been mostly feeling empty and bored. Not much excites me anymore and I feel I don't have a purpose. I sometimes obsessively work on my game project to try and gain meaning but sometimes it can be draining. My family says I have potential with it but I don't see how finishing them and releasing them is going to make me happy. If they do become popular then I probably just going to be anxious and fear of fans suddenly hating me. I could probably get into another relationship (especially with other trans people as I am a trans girl) as I am some what attractive and I do try my hardest to love the partner I have do as much as possible for them but I am just so scared of another abandonment happening.

I just can't handle the pressure when i have something good in my life and when i don't have it i feel empty. Call me pathetic if you want to. I just personally think we should be able to die at a young age if we want to. its my life, i should be able to do what i want with it.

 

[J&L383]

Mental illness doesnt care how good your life is

Or how young you are. I wish life could give everyone a good start, but no.

 

[xoxo24]

Recently I've seen lots of social media posts about young students who have everything going for them choosing to die. Examples: Aubrey Wyatt, Paige Hoffman, London DeShields, Charlotte O'Brien, Kailia Posey, and there are more.
Also, this case of a boarding school student.
There are also Kpop and Kdrama stars who seemingly have everything including beauty and money and if they really wanted to, I'm sure they could retire or move abroad to get out of the limelight.
Of course not everything is as it seems in pictures and I am sure they were all really struggling. But it really is hard for me to understand why (esp for the kids) they felt that it was the only way out. They seem to have supportive families, money, and their physical health. I know that it isn't that simple, but those factors usually help people through difficult times. Let me know what y'all think.

Honestly i feel jealous

 

[Darkover]

it's to be expected in an uncaring universe it doesn't look after us i would of left at 18 years old

 

[genie]

It depends on individual circumstances and trauma. I've had SI since I was 13, but I am so glad I did not go through with it at my lowest point when I was 18 as I would've missed out on a lot of wonderful experiences in my 20s. My life since 2019 has kind of plateaued now though and I am not over enthusiastic about life. There are unfortunately obvious circumstances where things might not get better no matter how young you are.

 

[FuneralCry]

Personally I'd never wish to exist and more than anything I wish I never suffered in this existence, I'd always prefer to cease existing than prolong the suffering in this existence that was imposed in the first place, for me non-existence is always preferable and is all I'd ever wish for, I have no interest in being burdened with this existence I always saw as a dreadful mistake, I see it as so burdensome to be conscious and have to experience anything at all. I'd always choose death over being enslaved in this existence I never would have wished for, not everyone sees existence as a desirable state and under no circumstances would I wish to suffer in this existence I always saw as so futile and unnecessary that there was never a need for at all just to be tortured by old age, all I wish and hope for is the peace of an eternal, dreamless sleep where all is gone and forgotten about for me.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

I don't see anything wrong with people choosing to die at any age as I think that the right to die should be a thing for everybody. I do think that it's unfortunate that, due to this anti suicide society that we're in, they have to resort to harsh and brutal ways to die successfully but I still respect their choice to end their life early. Since none of us consented to existence, we should at least be allowed to escape this place whenever we say that we want to.

Mental illness doesnt care how good your life is

It doesn't necessarily have to be mental illness. Somebody could have a nice life but still philosophically conclude that an earlier death is better than a later death.

I don't think death is the end. I don't think death is evil. I think suffering, especially prolonged suffering, is the worst. Of course I love children and would never hope to see a child be in so much pain that they choose to die, but I really believe that death is an escape from pain. There is always a reason these young people want to die, and no one cares until they go through with it

You don't think that death is the end but you also believe that it's an escape from pain? Isn't that contradictory? How you can believe in both of those statements simultaneously?

As a 19 year old I might be able to explain. In my early life I suffered greatly from school. It wasn't that I wasn't smart enough. It was just the pressure and the grueling long hours. It was a stressful boring torturous slog which has basically decreased by tolerance to mental pain. I just wanted to be safe at home. I didn't really had friends either so i felt lonely too but I was in denial that I wanted friends. I just wasn't made to deal with the normal society environments.

Covid saved me from school I was able to get a little better but when i went to college where I did incredibly well in my course. I also got into my first relationship who was also my first real friend. However she broke up with me after like 2 months and it destroyed me. I actually tasted what having a friend is like and more and I now felt worthless and empty without it. This lead me to drop out on year 2 of my college course and cemented me to have a big fear of abandonment. I felt empty and that everything was boring.

I did get into another relationship a year later but it was too intense and unstable cus of our mental problems to it ended after a year and a bit. This one had me constantly on fear of him abandoning me and I felt like he wasn't doing enough for me which lead me to showing some of my worst traits.

Since then I have been mostly feeling empty and bored. Not much excites me anymore and I feel I don't have a purpose. I sometimes obsessively work on my game project to try and gain meaning but sometimes it can be draining. My family says I have potential with it but I don't see how finishing them and releasing them is going to make me happy. If they do become popular then I probably just going to be anxious and fear of fans suddenly hating me. I could probably get into another relationship (especially with other trans people as I am a trans girl) as I am some what attractive and I do try my hardest to love the partner I have do as much as possible for them but I am just so scared of another abandonment happening.

I just can't handle the pressure when i have something good in my life and when i don't have it i feel empty. Call me pathetic if you want to. I just personally think we should be able to die at a young age if we want to. its my life, i should be able to do what i want with it.

I'm 19 as well and I agree with everything that you said here. I don't think that you're pathetic for wanting to end your life early. It's your life so it should be your choice

 

[Worndown]

When you read some of the stories, there are young people out there enduring conditions and situations that are untenable. They have little or no control over their life except for one thing. Other resolutions are not always possible.

 

[Kobusu]

You could have the world, but it doesn't mean much if you feel alone in it. I personally think we've lost something in the human experience as everything has become commodified and casual, and young people see that more than anything. When I was a teenager I was desperately suicidal, and it's when I attempted the most. On many occasions I wish I had succeeded, just as on many I am glad I did not. In all scenarios though, there's something that just feels wrong, even with all the medication and therapy. I think we lose something in selling depictions of human experiences to teenagers while incentivizing them to forego them or the feelings that come with them.

Children and teenagers have always known the depths of a despair that is typically lost as we become older, calloused, and weathered. There's a naivety and a hope that you have, that I think mass media uses to sell everything they can. I'm not surprised, but I'm always saddened.

 

[lilah]

Mental illness doesnt care how good your life is

this is so true..

 

[Bremer]

I probably have a controversial, unpopular opinion:
there are phases in the lives of adolescents in which they have strong doubts about themselves, the environment in which they live oppresses their self image - regardless of their material resources or social status - and their own body seems wrong or alien to them. Serious physiological and psychological changes take place during these phases, which are often accompanied by suicidal thoughts. These "children" should be protected by helping them to get through this phase through acceptance and orientation in this messed-up society until they have found themselves. It makes me sad when someone leaves because of this phase they could've been coming out alright.

Apart from that, age is not the factor, there can be very young people with an overwhelming burden in life who should be given the right to make decisions about their own lives. Everyone should be able to determine their own life or their own end.

 

[Cyber4ngel!]

The first time i tried to ctb I was about 5 years old, I wish i died at that age, I'm 18 now, worse than ever

I wanted to ctb because my family didn't love me except for my mom and I was badly bullied

Im 18, the only person who loved me, my mom, is dead now, she ctb
I never finished school because of all the bullying and my mental health
I have been abused since 8 years old, when my mom died, because she was no longer there to protect me from my dad
I have been abused in every way you could imagine since 8 years old, the worst abuse started at 11
I have been starved in the most important years of development and now im constantly sick, I lost my apartment due to economic problems and now im back at his house, they forced me to take sleeping pills last night, I'm hungry and more depressed than ever

I wish i died at 5, thats how it was supposed to be

 

[Kobusu]

A little follow up to my previous post, we were all young at some point. If you felt like this then, I doubt it's surprising that others do. Even with an amazing life and amazing family, people wish to die. Sometimes I think life just doesn't feel right, sometimes it's ruined, sometimes it's drab and unappealing, and sometimes it just stinks. Young people have struggled with this as long as there have been young people. Suicide is an inevitable part of consciousness I think. We just heard about it more now.

 

[TheHolySword]

I think it's heartbreaking. Everyone should have the right to die but no one should feel like it's the only way out. The world is cold and cruel and unforgiving. It's just. Sad. Young people should not have to endure so much. They should not have to take their own lives to be free from their pain.

 

[maniac116]

As painful as it is, especially for parents (and I am a parent), its the child's life. If open, non-judgmental conversations happen at home then children can feel heard & connected. I think that can help a lot. And "support" from family is really important. Just my 2 cents worth...

 

[Trav1989]

It's their choice to do with their life as they see fit, success, fame, money, whatever means little to nothing to those of us who are capable of seeing being the trappings of this menial existence.

 

[dumbnhappy]

You don't think that death is the end but you also believe that it's an escape from pain? Isn't that contradictory? How you can believe in both of those statements simultaneously?

Because its a part of a cycle. Its an escape, but its also a doorway for other beings to thrive. I dont really mean it in a spiritual way, lol.

 

[binkie]

I doubt their parents were all that supportive of their child in life. It's easy to make yourself look like a good person for an interview, but behind closed doors raising a child with mental illness is difficult. I don't believe anyone that says they're shocked when their child ctb, there are too many signs and symptoms that need to go ignored or unnoticed. Unfortunately, it's the ones that seem like they have everything that no one checks up on.

 

[Warlord's Pulse]

It's more a matter of existential problems